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Old 12-13-2012, 03:47 PM   #251
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let me writte it different. i hope they didnt writte a movie where Clark is sad his whole life. way to many origin movies are like that
I don't think he'll be sad just unsure of himself, im sure he won't come across depressed all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually got more co fi debt after his exchange with Jor El.

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y'know.....I was just thinking......

do you think Jonathan's "maybe" talk is what, in part, spurs Clark to pursue journalism, as a way to help others without using his powers?

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That last scene with Superman and Lois Lane in the trailer, I don't see Henry Cavill or Clark Kent. I see Superman. I'm still wondering how they'll further try to differentiate the look of Clark and Superman so that it's believable that no one in the Daily Planet would be suspicious

Like when you put the two pictures together





The slicked back hair really makes a difference

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it makes a difference with the hairstyle. but its the same face.

but we know that he has glasses

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That last scene with Superman and Lois Lane in the trailer, I don't see Henry Cavill or Clark Kent. I see Superman. I'm still wondering how they'll further try to differentiate the look of Clark and Superman so that it's believable that no one in the Daily Planet would be suspicious

Like when you put the two pictures together


I see chest hair sticking out from under his collar line.

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Old 12-13-2012, 04:49 PM   #256
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I see chest hair sticking out from under his collar line.
Of course. This is a real SuperMAN and Snyder made sure that you will never forget it, not even for a second. None of that metrosexual wax thing going on like with Captain America or Thor. King daddy is one handsomely rugged man beast. No homo.

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Old 12-13-2012, 05:00 PM   #258
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y'know.....I was just thinking......

do you think Jonathan's "maybe" talk is what, in part, spurs Clark to pursue journalism, as a way to help others without using his powers?
That would definitely make sense. Getting the truth out there is another way of saving people than using your abilities all the time out in the open(until he uses the Superman identity).

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I think one aspect of the "maybe" line lies in the fact that Clark can't just go around playing God and solving every problem he encounters. He can't interfere like that in the lives of people. His father was merely trying to explain that he needs to think about his actions because there are many consequences. He's not an ordinary kid and someone with that many powers can't act like a normal kid who acts purely on instinct. His actions could've cost his chance to live a normal life forever and that's not what a parent wants for their son. That's the lesson: Responsibility. Think before you act. And that's what separates Superman from the other heroes. He has the weight of the world over his shoulders.

Has nothing to do with Jonathan Kent being evil and wanting little children to die.

What I like about this interpretation of Superman is that they're not making him human or relatable in a Peter Parker sense. That's not the point. They're creating depth and issues that a character with those powers would have in the present world. And that's great because it shows they understand Superman.

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I think one aspect of the "maybe" line lies in the fact that Clark can't just go around playing God and solving every problem he encounters. He can't interfere like that in the lives of people. His father was merely trying to explain that he needs to think about his actions because there are many consequences. He's not an ordinary kid and someone with that many powers can't act like a normal kid who acts purely on instinct. His actions could've cost his chance to live a normal life forever and that's not what a parent wants for their son. That's the lesson: Responsibility. Think before you act. And that's what separates Superman from the other heroes. He has the weight of the world over his shoulders.

Has nothing to do with Jonathan Kent being evil and wanting little children to die.

What I like about this interpretation of Superman is that they're not making him human or relatable in a Peter Parker sense. That's not the point. They're creating depth and issues that a character with those powers would have in the present world. And that's great because it shows they understand Superman.

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That's a good point. I've only thought of the "maybe" line in terms of Jonathan Kent's protectiveness.

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let me writte it different. i hope they didnt writte a movie where Clark is sad his whole life. way to many origin movies are like that
Well we've already seen him running around in a cape as a kid playing make-believe, so he doesn't seem to have been all that depressed a child to me. It would be weird if he wasn't upset when he's experiencing his super-hearing for the first time and when he's just been in a bus crash.

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I see chest hair sticking out from under his collar line.
Good.

Captain America should've had a hairy chest. But Evans' chest was as smooth as a baby's bottom.

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I still think the dialogue with Clark and Jonathan is cut up... i dont think 'maybe' is his answer, or its not the full answer.

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Can I also just say, that if something as simple as a net being thrown out into the ocean looks that beautful... WOW!

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I just hope Supes won't be all introspective and mopey like in SR and Smallville and he doesn't take over half the movie to embrace his destiny.

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Good.

Captain America should've had a hairy chest. But Evans' chest was as smooth as a baby's bottom.
Maybe that's why the collar is as high as it is. If they'd gone any lower, they would have had to either shave or...pluck, considering he does show up shirtless in other parts of the movie and if they wanted some hairy chest there, it would have had to look natural. Anyway, would have been awkward.

Also, it would have been hi-larious if Steve Rogers went into the test capsule with no chest hair and emerged from it a burly hairy man. I can see why they didn't do that. It would have put it over the top.

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Can I also just say, that if something as simple as a net being thrown out into the ocean looks that beautful... WOW!
Completely agree. The cinematography in those 2 minutes was breathtaking. I can't wait for the other 137, give or take.

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That's what that was?

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That's what that was?
a fishing net....yes. And then something in the sky

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I know some people are a bit put off by the muted colours and contrast lighting of the trailer, but I think it helps a great deal with making the visual effects look more believable. It might just be me, but I find that stronger, more saturated colours tend to give cgi effects away more. Personally, I found the use of a similar palette on BSG to help a great deal with selling the effects on that show as well.

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I know some people are a bit put off by the muted colours and contrast lighting of the trailer, but I think it helps a great deal with making the visual effects look more believable. It might just be me, but I find that stronger, more saturated colours tend to give cgi effects away more. Personally, I found the use of a similar palette on BSG to help a great deal with selling the effects on that show as well.
Plus, at least it isn't the yellowish/tan color filter that was applied to SR; oh I hated that effect with a passion.

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I just hope Supes won't be all introspective and mopey like in SR and Smallville and he doesn't take over half the movie to embrace his destiny.
I think the first 45 minutes will be his younger years and when he's on the fishing boat. Or like someone said before, it might already start off with him in Alaska and he has flashbacks when he sees something that triggers a memory of his youth.

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I think the first 45 minutes will be his younger years and when he's on the fishing boat. Or like someone said before, it might already start off with him in Alaska and he has flashbacks when he sees something that triggers a memory of his youth.
I think and hope they will go the flashback route like with Begins because it will help differential Man of Steel from Superman: The Movie. Which seems to be a bit of concern considering how many people here and, on some other sites, seem to think another origin story is redundant.

I bet the three act structure will roughly be: 1) Alaska with flashbacks, ending with Clark's discovery of the FoS 2) Clark's move to Metropolis and the arrival of Zod in Smallville 3) climax involving Metropolis and the Black Zero

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I think and hope they will go the flashback route like with Begins because it will help differential Man of Steel from Superman: The Movie. Which seems to be a bit of concern considering how many people here and, on some other sites, seem to think another origin story is redundant.

I bet the three act structure will roughly be: 1) Alaska with flashbacks, ending with Clark's discovery of the FoS 2) Clark's move to Metropolis and the arrival of Zod in Smallville 3) climax involving Metropolis and the Black Zero
Honestly, I think it was a great move to have Cavil portray Clark during his days before becoming Superman since we never got a chance to see either Reeve or Routh portray the character at that stage of their lives. I think it definitely makes it easier to root for the character visually when we have a consistency in seeing the same actor portray the character from the starting point and ending with that same said actor at the finishing point.

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I think and hope they will go the flashback route like with Begins because it will help differential Man of Steel from Superman: The Movie. Which seems to be a bit of concern considering how many people here and, on some other sites, seem to think another origin story is redundant.
but then it will be like Batman Begins.

why not come up with a third option? something new? a new structure in the first act of scenes? why are fans so scared of trying out something new?

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