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Old 12-20-2012, 09:51 PM   #1
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As we all know the end of all things will destroy us tomorrow, so I will sadly begin what is sure to be our last ever BT Thread. I'll miss you guys. :-(

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AVENGERS #2 was the only book I read ths week but it was great. Fully detailed history and motive was established for our Villians and I liked it MUCH more than issue 1. The art was really cool and fit the tone of this grand tale. I'm also really digging the Avengers logo with the different splinter teams and how this looks. Interested to see where Hiickman goes with this, but I will definitely stick around. Very cool book.

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Avengers #2: The plot doesn't advance past the end of the first issue, but it's still really well written. Maybe some don't like the slow pace, but I like the build up. These villains are fantastic. These guys are the first new villains that I really like in a while. The recruiting montage was pretty good. I don't know how I feel about Sam and Bobby joining for the fame and glory... Bobby maybe, but I hope Sam sees the potential for increasing his leadership status.

All New X-men #4: After a slightly disappointing 3rd issue, this one is the best so far! It's hard to criticize the story at this point. The tension is high, the drama is high, it's such a good soap opera! The look that Jean and Young Scott exchanged in this issue broke my heart! I feel so bad for everyone. But at least the Icemen serve some comic relief. I didn't care too much about new mutants being in this series, but I really liked the scene between them in this issue. Bendis seems to really understand what makes the X-men as a concept work.

Cable and X-Force: I still don't like Cable very much. Hope and Domino are ok... they make a fun team. I'm really reading for Colossus, and I'm glad to see he's conflicted over whatever it is Cable's team will be doing. It's trucking along. I'll give it another four issues and if it doesn't blow me away I'll probably drop it. I'm looking forward to Uncanny X-force more anyway.

FF: SO much fun. With the high drama and big concepts of ANXM and Avengers, this was a nice fun and simple read with a great ending. I have fallen in love with the art. Great issue.

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I got my comics last night so I couldn't get any reviews in, and now I'm at work. I will say that my shop didn't get Uncanny X-Force in so I'll have to wait two weeks for that... which sucks.

I also made the difficult decision to pass on Avengers. They were down to the final copy and I went back and forth so bad that it was annoying. I wanted to give the book at least one arc but I need to cut about $15 a month and Avengers could be $8 of that. I'm not attached yet so it'd be an easy break. I finally left it. I looked decent on a skim, and I'm still curious how Sam, Bobby, and Eden do on the team, but I made the choice and walked away. If they still have that final copy when next time I go (as I'm not sure I'm going next Wednesday) then maybe I'll get it, but I think I'm just going to pass on the title. Twice a month is a bit much.

I also decided to just pass on Avengers Arena. I love the characters but not the premise and, having to cut comics, I felt that was a good one to pass on. The back issues likely wouldn't be hard to catch up on if something happens to pull me back in, but I don't see that happening.

Other than those though, it ended up being a good week. I liked every issue and I'll tell you about them when I get home from work. Oh, but while my shop owner didn't spoil anything, he did get in Amazing Spider-Man 700 and he did not sound pleased about the story in the slightest. Slott will likely turn what happens into a good story but this issue is not making him any fans.

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Too bad you missed on Uncanny X-Force, JH. Remender did a perfect job closing out the series. I'm totally getting the next series with Psylocke, Puck, Storm and Spiral. Hopefully Sam Humphries carries on what Remender accomplished with the book. Psylocke has been one of the best characters of 2012. Did I nominate her for character of the year in your Best of 2012 thread....?(http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=450451 shameless plug for you )

Also, Avengers #2 was another fine issue. So far so good under Hickman's pen. There needs to be more action next issue though, balance out the story/action more...

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I'm having to cut some books. There's so much great stuff, but I just can't afford it all. I really loved the first issues of Captain America, Avengers, and Indestructible Hulk, but I have to make cuts somewhere. Oh well. These are all books I might eventually get in trade once I get some extra cash.

My pick of the week is Ultimate Spider-man 18. I love Miles and the supporting cast. I like his use of powers when fighting Giant Woman. It makes his fighting style much different than Peter's. I also love what's going on with Mile's dad. It could have been a heroic moment, but looks like it will cause some serious problems down the road for his family in the near future. I really like the supporting cast in this book, and I'd hate to see anything bad happen to them, but there is a strong feeling that something bad is on the horizon for Miles' family. Fantastic book, can't wait for the next issue.

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All New X-Men #4- Another solid issue of this book. Bendis is doing a great job. This issue has the confrontation that everyone's been looking forward to: Young Cyclops vs. Modern Cyclops. Great issue and Immomen's art was fantastic. I loved seeing modern Cyclops's optic blast being out of control while young Cyclops's blast were thin and perfectly straight. Loving this series.

Avengers #2- This series looks to be setting up a lot of things, so it feels kind of slow, but I'm still loving it. Hickman's created some intriguing new villains and an epic overall feel. It seems like **** is going to go down next issue and I'm very much looking forward to it.

Avengers Arena #2- I'm still liking this title for what it is: A silly, mindless book that's a lot of fun and is introducing me to a lot of cool new characters. These characters totally aren't really dying, too. Hopeless is spending a lot of time developing these characters and I can't believe that he's going to waste this development on this little series and never have them pop up again. Avengers Academy fans should rest easy... Everything is going to be okay.

Cable and X-Force #2- This issue was better than the last, but still nothing special so far. I'm still only reading this for Colossus. It's nice to see Piotr uneasy with what's going on. That said, I'll probably stick around for awhile.

Captain America #2- I enjoyed this issue way more than the last one. I felt the last issue was great, but I found myself wanting for a more grounded, Brubaker-ish Cap... Remender's Cap totally did it for me this issue. I'm all in now. Can't wait to see what happens next.

Daredevil #21- This is such a fun series. Waid is just a master of creating fun, exciting titles. This issue finished off with a pretty fun little cliffhanger which I wasn't expecting. It's gonna be great to see how that shakes out.

FF #2- I was surprised at how much I enjoyed this issue. I originally wasn't planning on buying this series but caved in because of Allred's involvement and how much I enjoyed Fraction's first issue of Fantastic Four. I didn't really like the first issue, but this issue was absolutely fantastic. Seeing Ant Man and company dealing with everything as **** hits the fan has been a blast. Great title.

Green Lantern #15- Does anyone else feel that this arc has been going on forever? I'm over it already. I loved this relaunch when it first started. The teamwork between Hal and Sinestro was very interesting... Ever since they introduced the new Green Lantern, I've found myself losing interest. It's not even that I don't like the new Green Lantern, because I do, but I'm really missing the Hal/Sinestro dynamic. Hopefully this arc will start picking up soon and get back on track.

Hawkeye #6- Every month I'm surprised by how fantastic this title is. I've always like Hawkeye, but I never really felt that he could maintain a solo title like he has with this new series. Fraction has done an AMAZING job of writing a superhero who's just a normal dude who's just trying to do the right thing.This issue might've been the best of the series so far. Also, Aja's art is just fantastic and a perfect matchup with Fraction's writing. The panel where Clint is just standing in the snow waiting with his bow was ****ing awesome. If you're not buying this series, you're really missing out.

Indestructible Hulk #2- Again, Waid is just a great writer. I've always liked the Hulk but I always felt that he's just a hard character to write. Waid gets him and he still has found a way to take the character in a new direction. The dynamic between Banner and Stark in this issue was great. Waid has made Hulk fun again and not such a drag.

Nightwing #15- I really like this issue a lot. I think Higgins has done a decent job with this series so far. Dick is just a great character and I feel like Higgins does a pretty good job with him. It's never really been great, but it's never been bad either. Just a consistently solid title. I feel like this is the best issue to come out of the series in awhile. It really showed the difference in the way that Dick and Bruce approach things. I figured Joker would attack Dick in the way he did and I can't wait to see what happens in the next issue, especially with Higgins talking up how these next couple of issues are going to completely change the landscape of the series.

Red Hood and the Outlaws #15- I bought this just for the DOTF crossover and I found myself really liking it. The way Joker is ****ing with Jason is really interesting and you're starting to see him crack. One thing I wasn't completely sure of because I don't read Teen Titans is how did Tim end up in the same pit as Jason? But yeah, I heard that this was a pretty bad-mediocre title, but I found myself really liking this issue, so I may actually stick with it after the DOTF tie in.

Saga #8- I feel that if you're not buying this series, you're just an *******. Vaughn is writing his masterpiece. He's totally just hitting on all cylinders here. And Staples is just absolutely killing it in the art department. I feel like there's nothing I can say that hasn't already been said about this series. Just buy and enjoy.

Thor: God of Thunder #3- Another NOW title that is going great. I'm loving what Aaron is doing with this title. Seeing the progression of cocky, young Thor to weary, modern Thor to defiant, old Thor is just ****ing awesome. You can see how his experiences with the God Butcher has completely changed him as a character. In this issue, you get to see some cool moments with all three different Thors. I do hope that we soon get to see some more old Thor as I feel that he hasn't gotten as much of a spotlight as everyone else.

Thunderbolts #2- Another dud of an issue. I really want to like this series, I really do. It's got a great team. But it's pretty ******. I'll probably give it until the end of the first arc but of all the NOW titles, I feel that this is by far the worst that I've read so far.

Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #18- I feel like this is a title that people don't talk about enough. It's pretty great. It's nice to see that Ultimate line go in a completely different direction than the 616 universe. When it first started, I feel like it pretty much followed along with the 616 universe save for a few changes. Now, they're completely different. Anyway, Miles is a great character and Bendis is doing a good job of depicting the craziness that is going on in the Ultimate universe though the eyes of a child.

Uncanny X-Force #35- I'm really, really sad to see this title go as it's been one of my favorites. This was a really good finale issue even though it did kind of feel that it was Remender's way of fixing all the toys that he broke and putting them back in the toybox. The teams disbanded, each of the characters are much more ****ed up than they were when the series just started, and a character that I was upset was gone is now back, but in a different way. Plus, there's a great moment between Deadpool and Evan in this issue that I really, really liked. But yeah, super bummed this over now. Remender better start kicking ass on Uncanny Avengers soon to make up for leaving this series.

Venom #28- This series has become pretty mediocre since Remender left. It's not terrible, but it's not really good either. I feel like it's picked up after the Minimum Carnage event. I like the Philly aspect to the book as Philly's a city I really enjoy. I don't like the supernatural turn this book has taken since Bunn took over. I miss Remender's take on the character. But yeah, this might get dropped soon.

Wolverine and the X-Men #22- I'm super bummed at how uninteresting this title has become. This used to be one of my favorite titles and now it's so "meh" it's crazy. I feel like this circus arc has been going on FOREVER and it's terrible. I hope Aaron gets back on track after this arc and gets back to what this series is great for: The interactions between the teachers and students in the school setting.

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I loved the ending to DD #21 when Kirsten McDuffie goes to Spider-Man for help regarding Matt....

Superior Spider-Man: I will find Daredevil.....and I will crush him.

Kirsten: Thank--wait. What?

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The world hasn't ended yet, but it has another few hours to go. Spoilers ahoy.

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SAGA #8: Having allowed a couple of months to pass between issues six and seven to allow artist and co-creator Fiona Staples enough "lead in" time for this second arc (as well as time to sell the cheap trade of the first six issues), this instant classic by Image Comics and writer Brian K. Vaughan continues to produce effortless quality. Despite never being known for "space opera" stories, Vaughan manages to juggle the genre well with SAGA for the same reason he has seen success at Marvel and Wildstorm for so long; a mastery of unique characters and eclectic casts. Starting off with a flashback of how the series' central couple Marko and Alana first met in a prison for war criminals, the issue continues along with the second arc. If the theme of the first arc was escaping a planet, this second arc is essentially "meeting the in-laws", at least on Marko's side.

Marko's parents have utilized magic to crash into their "rocket tree" and naturally complicated an already complicated situation. Marko and Alana's people are at war, with a bounty not only on their heads, but the head of their newborn cross-breed daughter, Hazel. Naturally, Marko's magician parents aren't happy about this, but while his father is eager to meet with his new granddaughter and sees the bigger picture, his mother still harbors generational grudges. Marko and his mother find themselves on a nearby planet trying to recover their ghostly friend Izabel, and do battle with old prejudices as well as a naked giant. Meanwhile, Alana continues to bond with Marko's father, whose terminal illness has given him a secret to share with her. The issue ends with the readers finally meeting the girl Marko was once engaged to wed before stumbling across Alana.

Much like the previous issues, the artwork by Staples is incredible. Her pencils, inks, and colors have given the world of SAGA a distinct look and vibrancy which has an imaginative elegance to it. While the line work is clean and smooth, all of the various characters, species, and locations look unique with a wide diversity to the cast. On the writing end of it, Vaughan continues to build up his characters through interactive dialogue as well as give them all quirks - such as Alana being inspired by what was essentially a cheap alien romance novel. Living up to the tagline of "Romeo & Juliet meet STAR WARS", SAGA has easily become one of the most exciting, entertaining, and exceptional comics of 2012.

SUPER-DINOSAUR #16: It certainly is interesting to read this alongside Robert Kirkman's other SKYBOUND works, just to see that he's capable of telling a solid all ages piece as well as his usual gore fests. At any rate, both he and artist Jason Howard team up for another SD adventure, as the last arc ends and the series gets back to a typical adventure. Derek and SD are sent out to investigate some trouble inside the moon, which is apparently hollow on this world same as the earth is. They come upon the middle of a war between two warring groups who are bickering over the loss of royal children - and the fact that they fled together is a bit obvious before the end page. Meanwhile, some other subplots involving Dr. Dynamo and Maximus experimenting on his clone "Minimus" chug onward. The art as always is great and I always say this would more than make a worthy weekly animated series on a cable network somewhere; it'd be superior to anything which isn't related to Greg Weisman or Korra. As a comic book it is all good fun, although every time I look at the sales figures for the monthly series they look horrid, so I wonder if this series will survive longer than the last collaboration these two did, ASTOUNDING WOLF-MAN.

DAREDEVIL #21: This is the conclusion of Mark Waid's latest arc involving the introduction of a brand new enemy in Daredevil's rogues gallery, the bizarre Coyote. Originally suspected to be Spider-Man's old nemesis the Spot (who'd battled Daredevil twenty issues ago), this issue officially reveals him as someone new who underwent the same empowerment process that the Spot had in the 1980's, only came out looking far more twisted. Daredevil manages to save everyone involved in Coyote's human smuggling ring as well as clear a woman of the murder of a local crime boss that Coyote framed her for, although Murdock doesn't learn who was the man behind Coyote and why they wanted to mess with his life. The friendship between Murdock and Foggy remains on the rocks, and his budding relationship with assistant D.A. Kristen McDuffie has a new wrinkle now that she officially knows about his dual identity. As always the art by Chris Samnee and colors by Javier Rodriguez are as central to the story as the script, providing some incredible visuals. The dimensional warping and teleporting powers of Spot and Coyote allow for many opportunities to show off, which Samnee capitalizes upon to the hilt. While Daredevil continues to seem to leech off Spider-Man's villains to a degree, Coyote is the second new villain introduced in this run besides Bruiser, and is far more distinct and memorable. An Eisner winner and deservedly so, Waid's DAREDEVIL remains an oasis of quality for those who want to avoid summer crossovers or Marvel NOW! and simply want to see a well done and self contained superhero book from the "house of ideas". Waid's yeoman effort to try to dig Daredevil out of the hopelessly grim mire which he has been in since the Frank Miller run of the 80's hasn't eliminated suspense, but has in fact enhanced it and given him the best voice on the character that any writer has had in years.

INDESTRUCTIBLE HULK #2: Mark Waid continues upon building his reputation as a master of revamping long time Marvel franchises with this promising relaunch of the main Hulk title. Much as with Daredevil, this run has hinged upon a single defining character moment. In the case of this book, it is Bruce Banner realizing that transforming into the Hulk is an incurable chronic condition and the best he can do is plan his life around it so he isn't merely remembered as smashing stuff. To this end he has essentially manipulated his way into a position as a new SHIELD scientist and tactical "force of nature" to drop on bad guys. Longtime rival Iron Man has caught wind of this and assumes something is amiss, and does what he usually does - butt in and assume he's always in control. Thus, what should have been a routine test of an experimental gamma-fracking device turns into a fight in the Himalayas between the armored Avenger and the green Goliath. Fortunately, even this was something Banner has planned in advance. The artwork by Lenil Yu is good although it certainly is a shift from work he is better known for, such as NEW AVENGERS and WOLVERINE, as he brings a layer of grit to over-the-top segments. Sunny Gho's colors gives the work some much needed pop. Much as with DAREDEVIL, this is a book exploding with entertaining dialogue and a lot of imagination, and it will remain to be seen how Waid handles some of Hulk's own villains in future stories. Greg Pak defined the Hulk for a very long time, and some extreme things were done to make Banner seem more like a psycho in subsequent takes, but this one seeks to amend much of that while bringing that to greener pastures.

SCARLET SPIDER #12.1: This is one of those "point one initiative" issues which is essentially just an extra issue of the regular series where I am dazzled that despite Marvel's love of fudging with numbers, it isn't just considered an extra issue. Chris Yost handles the story like he usually does for this series, with art by Neil Edwards and Paulo Siqueira, with two inkers and Fabio D'Auria on colors. It tries to follow up on the intended purpose of this initiative by summarizing Kaine's tenure as the hero of Houston via narration, but it is essentially a standard done and one adventure in which officer Wally Layson gets Kaine to look into a murdered child that leads into a fight against human smugglers and eventually the Hand. Kaine winds up taking on a mystically empowered leader of the Hand who apparently is going on his own ventures without Kingpin's authority, so Kaine's fight is interrupted by Arranger and Brusier - yes, the same one Mark Waid created in DAREDEVIL. His mass altering powers seem ignored as he's just a tank here, and his design looks a bit generic when artists other than Marcos Martin draw him. The narration naturally brings up the usual attitude of Kaine - that he's seeking to make amends for being a killer even though he's virtually stumbled into becoming a superhero. It's a solid SCARLET SPIDER tale which sets up the next arc, which may involve the Lobo family of werewolf mobsters later on. This continues to be an enjoyable series, just there's little reason why this wasn't issue #13 beyond Marvel's silly editorial strategy.

SECRET AVENGERS #35: Rick Remender prepares his endgame for his tenure on this spin off series once launched by Ed Brubaker, which is essentially setting up his army of artificial life forms to attack the rest of the planet and forcibly evolve everyone into beings like them - whether they want it or not. Meanwhile, Hawkeye, Beast, and Capt. Britain finish stealing the MacGuffin in another universe where all the characters are horror inspired versions and Franken-Castle is still around. Frankly the highlight of the issue for me is Black Widow giving Venom/Flash Thompson a grim summary of how awful the personal life of a superhero is should they survive too long (unless you're a Bendis protected franchise, like Luke Cage), but someone has to stop the crazies so one may as well suck it up. Many writers sometimes forget that Black Widow is almost as old as Captain America and has a lot of worldly experience to her as well, so this little scene I thought captured it well. There are some other good moments including Jim Hammond's motivation and Father's speech to the U.N., and lots of scenes of robot attacks drawn by Matteo Scalera with colors by Matthew Wilson. Once this run ends, it will be the last vestige of Remender handling Venom gone, but at least his crazy ideas will continue with UNCANNY AVENGERS. I'm still wondering how he rehabilitates Simon Williams from being a vengeful psycho to actually being an Avenger again.

VENOM #28: Cullen Bunn starts his next arc on VENOM alongside new artist Thony Silas with Nelson Decastro's inls and Chris Sotomayor's colors. It turns out to be the best start to an arc Bunn's written yet, which means it doesn't involve aliens or magic. A training session with new flame Valkyrie is interrupted by reporter Katy Kiernan's latest investigation, which has wound up landing Venom in the middle of a fight with the U-Foes. He fought them among other villains in passing in SECRET AVENGERS, but here they act as if they're old rivals and that ups the ante. This is also the issue that firmly plants Venom in Phillie, where he can be the city's latest hero after Rocky Balboa. The artwork's crisp with some great colors and without elements like demons and magic involved, this works as a solid Venom superhero outing. More issues like this and Bunn may be on his way to escaping Remender's shadow - even while mining his stories for ore.

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Okay, that was a first. I've thrown my back out many times after several years of manual labor... but never by coughing?!

So as I sit here all squirmy and sore... let's review something.

As I mentioned earlier, my shop didn't get Uncanny X-Force. I opted to pass on Avengers and Avengers Arena. One thing I forgot to mention was that I also passed on X-Men Legacy. It's the first time I've opted to pass on that title since I first started collecting the title 20 years ago. It was a hard decision, and I might eventually go back to it if it improves, but it was just so bad. I love Legion but that title lost my interest on the first page of issue 1.

Indestructible Hulk #2 - After leaving so many behind, this was one questionable comic for me that I opted to continue with. I loved the issue and love how Waid's playing Banner in regards to Stark. Tony realizing that he's not "the smart guy" anymore, rivaled by Banner, was a great moment. Also, Tony trying to show up Banner on Banner's own machine backfiring was also a nice touch. This is the first time in quite a while that I've really enjoyed Maria Hill and I'm loving Yu's art on the book. He's known for sticking with a title so hopefully that continues.

Good issue, happy I stuck with it. I don't know if I'll continue it long term, as I still need to drop a bit more, but I'm liking it while I can.

Daredevil #21 - This was a good conclusion to the arc, though I feel like it took away from Coyote's freakiness with how woosified he became toward the end. I'm actually glad that Coyote ended up not being Spot, as I like Spot and would like to see him grow as a character on his own, not transforming into something else. I'm really hoping that we see more of what happens after Spot swipes Coyote. I'd like to see that showdown, or see Spot played up as a result. And I loved the return to Milla Donovan in this arc. I loved her during Bendis' run and felt that her fall to madness during Brubaker's run was one of the saddest moments since I've been reading DD. I was worried she'd be forgotten after that but Waid made an incredibly touching scene in this arc by using that tragedy. Way to go Waid.

I just wish someone would bring back Dr. Fear now. Brubaker turned him into an awesome DD villain again. I'd love to see Waid tap into that.

Thor: God of Thunder #3 - Another good issue with amazing art. This God Butcher story has really been good, and I'm not even a Thor fan. I don't know how long I'l be on this book but I'm AT LEAST sticking aroud for this story. Aaron's got me hook line and sinker.

Is this story, and the 3 Thor p.o.v.'s supposed to be an ongoing story or just the first arc? Does anyone know?

All New X-Men #4 - Man, another good issue. Cyclops' team meets the original team and it goes about as expected. Scott is feaked out by the sight of Jean, who is freaked out by Cyclops' thoughts, primarilly the person he's become. The battle is brief, which is fine, and the story moves on. The original X-Men opt to stay for a time and try to help Beast, who wakes up, but then goes into cardiac arrest. To be continued.

I'm happy with how this story has been progressing. It's not dragging on, the characters all feel like themselves, and I find myself eager for each issue. All New X-Men is one of the best books to come out of the Marvel NOW Initiative.

Cable and X-Force #1 - While theissue was fairly simple it was at least a step up from last issue. We see some conflict between Colossus and Cable. Domino and Hope save the people on the beach who were at risk of the techno-threat. We see shadowy silhouettes of the people who made that happen, challenging Cable. My guess is Bishop and Stryfe. Cable has brain sergury (don't remember why).

So yeah, the issue picked up. I'll continue with the book for now, as it shows promise, and hopefully it'll deliver.

Wolverine & the X-Men #22 - The X-Men are captured and brainwashed by a circus and the students are being attacked by them. That portion of the plot does little for me, as does the storyline of Frankenstein's monster hunting down the Frankenstein Hellfre Club kid. What's got my interest (and my interest alone I'm sure) is the connection this story has to the Draco arc. Calcabrina is in it, who I think died in the Draco arc (killed by Iceman I believe), and there's a sorta mention of her connection to Nightcrawler's father, Azazel. We also see a hint in that there's a Bamf encased in the circus labled a "Hell Beast." I stated back in issue one that the Bamfs made me think of the Draco arc. Now it seems like there's a genuine connection. As much as I (and I alone) loved the Draco storyline, I never expected Mavel to come back to it. I had my hopes up once Azazel showed up in X-Men: First Class but then nothing happened and I stopped hoping.

The story itself is boring me, but I'm excited to see what comes of it. Oh, and as always, Bradshaw rocks.

Green Lantern #15 - While I'm not a huge fan of this Simon Baz direction, it's picking up. Simon goes to see the man whose van he stole and finds out that it was THAT guy who planned to blow up the bridge. The FBI agent showsup, as do the Third Army, and everything goes downhill from there. Then the talking squirrel lantern shows up, revealing his knowledge of the Guardians' betrayal (I'm assuming branching from GLC) and he's looking for Hal. Hal is dead, along with Sinestro, and walking around with some mysterious person, so he's no help. And the Guardians leach more power from the First Lantern.

So yeah, it's starting to pick up but I'm ready for the story to move on. I'm not against another human lantern but this arc is boring me.


Best and Worst of the Week

Best: Daredevil - No surprise here. Waid's been knocking this book out of the park since I came back on and this issue was no different. I loved Spot and Coyote in it, I love the connection to Milla, I loved everything about it.

Worst: Green Lantern - Not a bad issue but this was a pretty good week and it was the weakest, Cable & X-Force being a close second.

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You do realize that Bendis already did that, right?


And I read yesterday in an interview with CBR that Remender intended the Secret Avengers plot to actually be an Uncanny X-Force plot. I suspected that, since he began sowing the seed in early Uncanny X-Force stories, but what I didn't know was that it was originally planned as an origin story for Fantomex.

I kinda wish that would have happened. I'd have liked to seen it. He also planned some Deadpool-centric character piece but didn't have time to write it. It makes me wish Remender had another year or two on the book to include all that. His on the title was phenominal and I think those would have been great additions.

Edit: I just read the second half of that interview and the Apoclaypse Twins arc of Uncanny Avengers was originally supposed to serve as the series finale of Uncanny X-Force. Though Remender says the story works a lot better in Uncanny Avengers, I can't help but wish it could have played out in the Uncanny X-Force title.

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And I read yesterday in an interview with CBR that Remender intended the Secret Avengers plot to actually be an Uncanny X-Force plot. I suspected that, since he began sowing the seed in early Uncanny X-Force stories, but what I didn't know was that it was originally planned as an origin story for Fantomex.

I kinda wish that would have happened. I'd have liked to seen it. He also planned some Deadpool-centric character piece but didn't have time to write it. It makes me wish Remender had another year or two on the book to include all that. His on the title was phenominal and I think those would have been great additions.

Edit: I just read the second half of that interview and the Apoclaypse Twins arc of Uncanny Avengers was originally supposed to serve as the series finale of Uncanny X-Force. Though Remender says the story works a lot better in Uncanny Avengers, I can't help but wish it could have played out in the Uncanny X-Force title.
No, I didn't realize Bendis fixed that up. I subsequently scimmed Wikipedia. It's good that he did, although still a bizarre plot line to take with Simon Williams. The irony is that considering the Avengers' actions in AVX, he was actually right. Had the Avengers not acted like paranoid state troopers and treated the X-Men as criminals right off, things wouldn't have gotten nearly as hectic; in the end Cyclops was still right about Hope and the Phoenix. Considering Jean Grey used to be Misty Knight's roommate, Colleen Wing briefly dated Cyclops, and in the 70's the H4H and the X-Men used to be tight, having Iron Fist train Hope could have been something achieved without a brawl across the globe. But then of course there'd have been no "versus" and that was in the title already.

It is interesting that the current plot in SA began as an UXF plot; I can imagine Fantomex being in the position that Jim Hammond or Eric O'Grady are in the SA version. It is a bit bizarre but I kind of like that quirk to Remender's writing so far. I also like Venom & Valkyrie, and feel that Thompson's a better boyfriend than Valkyrie often got in DEFENDERS during the 80's.

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I only read the first 4 or 5 issues of Secret Avengers before dropping it due to budget issues. Having liked Remenders Uncanny X-Force, Punisher (well, the first half of it so far), what I've read of Venom, and the End League, I'm sure I'd like it. I'll go back and read it some day.

If you ever get the chance to go trade hunting dread, I'm fairly certain you'd like Uncanny X-Force. It planted the seeds for Secret Avengers, it's self contained, and it also plants the seeds for the second arc of Uncanny Avengers. I've not heard a single person who's actually read it say they didn't like it.

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I totally agree Dread, you absolutely have to read this one day. I hope they collect it in an Omnibus because it would be well worth it. Remender did wonderful work with Psylocke, Fantomex and especially Deadpool. This was one of the best voices Wade has ever had. I just re-read the final issue and the scene between Deadpool and Genesis was fantastic. This was some of Remender's finest work. Better than his Venom work....and that's saying a lot because his Venom was terrific.

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Rick Remender had a real nice final "letters page" to close out the book thanking the fans for throwing a ton of support behind the book and convincing other fans that this wasn't just a mindless kill crew. He pretty much implied UXF's success led to him getting the Uncanny Avengers and Cap gigs.

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Yeah, Rememender's Uncanny X-Force is one of my favorite runs ever. The Dark Angel Saga was amazing and while a lot of people didn't feel like this final arc was on par with the rest of the series, I still really enjoyed it.

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I really enjoyed it too. The stakes were high, there were consequences, the characterization (especially Deadpool's) was great, and Daken is finally gone.

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The thing about Final Execution is that it's overall effect was diminished because we knew where most of the cast was going to be post NOW. All of the announcements/solicits gave a pretty good indication as to the fates of Psylocke, Evan, Fantomex and a few others.

Rarely does a final arc hit as hard as prior ones anyway. Remender pushed a lot of those characters to the edge emotionally and psychologically in stories before, so Final Execution was about tidying up and closing the door above all else.

The single best issue of the series (writing and art) was the final part to the Dark Angel Saga. It was some of Remender and Opena's finest work to date. That issue was epic with a capital E.

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Apparently Thor's 3 POV's will be for the duration of Aaron's run. Thor vs The Punisher next!

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"Avengers" #2: Epic, exciting, exactly what Bendis didn't give us for years. And all that without a punch being thrown. "Putting the team together" issues are always fun, but Hickman mostly hits all the nails square on the head. I wasn't sure how I felt initially about all the newcomers on this line-up, but it makes sense to me when I read it. This is Cap and Iron Man intentionally reinventing what the Avengers look like while still being "Avengers" (so, they'll fight more than just ninjas), and it looks like it will be interesting. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how some of the newer members (Hyperion, Captain Universe, etc.) are recruited.

There are also a TON of hints about the New Universe's apparent resurrection. I'm at least curious about how that plays out.

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Hmmmm, while the 3 Thor's have been great so far, I want Aaron to have a nice long run. Using 3 diff perspectives could get played out by 25-30 issues.

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"Avengers" #2: Epic, exciting, exactly what Bendis didn't give us for years. And all that without a punch being thrown. "Putting the team together" issues are always fun, but Hickman mostly hits all the nails square on the head. I wasn't sure how I felt initially about all the newcomers on this line-up, but it makes sense to me when I read it. This is Cap and Iron Man intentionally reinventing what the Avengers look like while still being "Avengers" (so, they'll fight more than just ninjas), and it looks like it will be interesting. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how some of the newer members (Hyperion, Captain Universe, etc.) are recruited.

There are also a TON of hints about the New Universe's apparent resurrection. I'm at least curious about how that plays out.
I have this small recollection of New Universe, as a kid my cousin sent me a box of really random comics, I remember reading a lot of the Quasar issues from the 90's that dealt with the Starbrand. But what were the hints in the issue? I def missed em.

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Avengers #2: I agree with those that have said it lacked action. Still was enjoyable, but next issue there should be some ass kicking.

JSA Liberty Files: The Whistling Skull #1: Very different than the first two Liberty File minis: different writer, no Batman and the lead two characters are new (as far as I know). Same great Tony Harris art.

Number 13 #1: A post-apocalyptic story featuring a lethal cybernetic kid. Love the crazy hodge podge of mutated humans (think Star Wars cantina).

Saga #8: continues to be the shiznit. We meet Marko's previously mentioned ex-fiance.

Deathmatch #1: Paul Jenkins' new book is similar in concept to Avengers Arena and it's kinda funny that one of the complaints about that book has been the old "kill the black guy first" trope, because the same thing happens here (though we don't see the actual fight). Since the characters are all new I doubt anyone will have a problem with it. The series is basically marvel & dc characters (under different names of course) pitted against each other in battles to the death by a mysterious force. Dragonfly (the Spider-man character) is forced to kill for the first time and takes it hard. Great art.

The Victories #5: First mini wraps up with the promise of more in the pages of Dark Horse Presents and a second mini. This first one was more about Faustus than anyone else on the team, so maybe the focus will shift in the next installments.

Harbinger #7: Flamingo is introduced this issue. They are really taking their time getting the "Renegade" group together this time around. The advantage being each character gets a little more fleshed out than before...Zephyr being the exception.

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I only read the first 4 or 5 issues of Secret Avengers before dropping it due to budget issues. Having liked Remenders Uncanny X-Force, Punisher (well, the first half of it so far), what I've read of Venom, and the End League, I'm sure I'd like it. I'll go back and read it some day.

If you ever get the chance to go trade hunting dread, I'm fairly certain you'd like Uncanny X-Force. It planted the seeds for Secret Avengers, it's self contained, and it also plants the seeds for the second arc of Uncanny Avengers. I've not heard a single person who's actually read it say they didn't like it.
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I totally agree Dread, you absolutely have to read this one day. I hope they collect it in an Omnibus because it would be well worth it. Remender did wonderful work with Psylocke, Fantomex and especially Deadpool. This was one of the best voices Wade has ever had. I just re-read the final issue and the scene between Deadpool and Genesis was fantastic. This was some of Remender's finest work. Better than his Venom work....and that's saying a lot because his Venom was terrific.
May as well answer both here, since the reply is the same anyway.

I've essentially read most of this volume of SECRET AVENGERS. I came aboard when Ed Brubaker launched it, and was quickly underwhelmed. Against my better judgement I stayed for Nick Spencer's "run" of 4 issues and regretted it. I left for Warren Ellis' "run" of 6 issues. I returned once editorial had a long term strategy for the book with Remender, and he's been the best writer of the volume, easily. I'll likely leave the book with him.

I have heard of Remender's success with UNCANNY X-FORCE. The dilemma with that as a run to try is that it is a team book in which I don't actually like any of the actual team members. Wolverine is a character I have went from being devoted to as a child and teenager towards my current state of flux between hatred and obligatory tolerance for. I only find Deadpool funny in spurts and quickly tire of him in a prolonged run. I never liked Fantomex even back when Morrison made him at the turn of the century. I've never cared for Archangel or Psylocke, especially since they both became complicated violent angst machines. And while ideally I would like Nightcrawler, the version I like is dead; the one on UXF is an alternate dimensional counterpart. Buying a team book where I don't like any of the members is usually risky.

That said, if Remender's run on UXF is really this good, Marvel should release it as an Omnibus collection.

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