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Old 01-06-2013, 03:52 AM   #151
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They would be smart to have a 'You've seen The Avengers. See what happens next...' type trailer at the Superbowl showcasing both Iron Man and Thor.
At this point, I think just showing Iron Man, Thor and Loki would be enough to reinforce the Avengers hook. Marvel studios is really in a great spot now. All the risk is gone, basically. They are printing money.

I can't wait to see what these movies are like. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they really raise the bar for the solo films.

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“I just finished shooting about a week and a half ago. There's going to be a bit of a darker feel and obviously a lot more action. We get to explore different realms a lot more and you see a lot more Asgard; and you get to know the people of Asgard. There is more [character development] with Sif. We sort of explore the Thor-Sif relationship a little bit; kind of [in a romantic way]. It's more like getting a feel of who these people are, how the way they are with each other. It was really fun for me and Chris. Him and I are almost like brother and sister too, so I was like maybe that translates into 'ohh they love each other on camera.' We had a good time making that movie.”

“That was hard at first [returning with a new director] because I didn't know what to expect. I love Kenneth Branagh very much He was a huge staple in my life because he launched my career. I gotta say, however, it is always great working with new people. Alan Taylor has brought a whole new vision to Thor. We've remained our own characters obviously, so there's still that similarity between the first and second one. But there's a darker feel to this one; a little more Gladiator-ish, a bit more viking-ish. So I'm really excited to see how it turns out.”

“The script did [feel more rooted in the comic book stuff]. I could read certain scenes and actually see how someone would do the drawings on the page. With that sense, Marvel was great; they said 'make it your own.' We just have a great team. I have been very lucky in my career. It was slightly different [with Zachary Levi coming in], because he's not Josh Dallas, but he's fantastic. And I've know Zach for years. He was actually one of the first choices for Fandral, so it's great to have him on board. He's definitely Fandral, and he's such a lovely guy, team player and really sweet. Everybody welcomed him with open arms and he's definitely a part of the family.”
It doesn't seem to me as if they are doing Thor/Sif at all, rather she hopes people can gather some subtext of their affection for one another. Its also a bit confused, if she and Chris have a sibling type relationship is that the love she hopes will be conveyed on screen?

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It doesn't seem to me as if they are doing Thor/Sif at all, rather she hopes people can gather some subtext of their affection for one another. Its also a bit confused, if she and Chris have a sibling type relationship is that the love she hopes will be conveyed on screen?
Not as an outright romantic relationship, I agree. Over in the plots thread, Elizah speculated it might allude to what has happened between them in the past. That could well be.

I agree about it being confusing. Regarding the sibling relationship, I wonder if Alexander got to the end of her sentence and realized one could take the comment in a way she didn't mean. (If you watch the video, she makes some comments after what you highlighted that tries to lighten it. The transcript I posted over in the plots thread includes those statements.)

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I think she was saying that she and Chris have a bro-sis relationship, not necessarily Thor and Sif, and she was wondering if that may translate on screen into they (Sif and Thor) love each other romantically, then realized that could be taken wrong. LOL So needless to say, the fact that she sort of half questions if she should reveal it, indicates that there will probably be some romantic tone there (since there is no big deal if they are always only friends), but doesn't sound like it gets far within the film. As I'd suggested, maybe a bit will be revealed about a past involvement, that was ended for one reason or another.

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While the actors know what scenes they shot, I'm guessing at this point they don't know and have zero control over which of their character's scenes gets chopped up or edited out entirely from the final product. If they include some specific Sif/Thor scenes to instigate a bit of jealousy from Jane all of those related scenes could end up on the editing floor if they have better things to fit in the movie.

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At this point, I think just showing Iron Man, Thor and Loki would be enough to reinforce the Avengers hook. Marvel studios is really in a great spot now. All the risk is gone, basically. They are printing money.

I can't wait to see what these movies are like. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they really raise the bar for the solo films.
I wish it was that simple, but there's still plenty of risk involved in Marvel movies. Yes, anything that has Iron Man in it is still pretty much a sure thing, and IM3 may well flirt with the billion-dollar worldwide box office mark --- I'm almost positive it'll be the most successful installment of the Iron Man film franchise --- but Thor and Cap still have a lot to prove in terms of generating a film fanbase, even after Avengers. And GOTG and Ant-Man are easily the riskiest ventures Marvel Studios has *ever* undertaken.

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I wish it was that simple, but there's still plenty of risk involved in Marvel movies. Yes, anything that has Iron Man in it is still pretty much a sure thing, and IM3 may well flirt with the billion-dollar worldwide box office mark --- I'm almost positive it'll be the most successful installment of the Iron Man film franchise --- but Thor and Cap still have a lot to prove in terms of generating a film fanbase, even after Avengers. And GOTG and Ant-Man are easily the riskiest ventures Marvel Studios has *ever* undertaken.
It's not quite that simple, of course. But... there's a lot more security than there was.

GOTG and Ant-Man are a bit of a different story, in terms of their success as individual films. On the other hand, a hiccup here or there won't really hamstring the whole enterprise like it once might have.

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Yeah if GOTG or Ant-Man flops, I don't think it'll necessarily hurt Avengers 2's performance the way Cap or Thor could've hurt the first movie.


...as long as they arent too far into shooting Avengers 2, and featuring the gaurdians or ant-man very heavily, that is

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Well I can't wait to see Warlock on the screen but I don't love the Antman/Giant man costumes. lol

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Well I can't wait to see Warlock on the screen but I don't love the Antman/Giant man costumes. lol
But Yellow Jacket was awesome!

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There's another little Jamie interview on The Site Which Shall Not Be Named. Hopefully all the actors will start to blab a bit now.

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There's another little Jamie interview on The Site Which Shall Not Be Named. Hopefully all the actors will start to blab a bit now.
Here's hoping. Especially the Loki details!

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Another Jaimie interview, a bit more...
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Alexander: "Two very different people, but both have extraordinary visions for what the film should look like and what it is going to look like. Alan, I feel like the second installment of Thor is much darker, much more rooted in what’s going on in the soul, whereas Ken’s version definitely had that soulfulness but was also lighter and there’s an elegance to his film….I was nervous going into the second one. I meet Alan, he has great ideas, super open to what we want to do as well and knows that we were the character once upon a time. So we can do it again and he puts his spin on it. He’s got some incredible shots in that film. I really enjoyed him a lot."

"You get to experience more of who she is on the inside. You get to see her in a more feminine way and we do explore the Thor/Sif relationship a little bit. That was fun…I definitely have action. But there are scenes, we have a few scenes where we don’t have any action at all and it was actually a lot of fun to play that because you’re not hiding behind a sword or an explosion, it’s just here, in your face. It was nice to see who she really is and that sort of thing. It was fun."
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Hmmm.... Avengers 2 maybe?


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And GOTG and Ant-Man are easily the riskiest ventures Marvel Studios has *ever* undertaken.
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Hmmm.... Avengers 2 maybe?
A2 will have so much going on I really don't think there's space or need for Sif. I get the impression it's some other big action film. Maybe she got a role in the new Star Wars or something

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Yes....yes, GOTG and Ant-Man *are* the riskiest ventures Marvel has undertaken. All their other films had built-in comic-nerd fanbases, and even non-fanboys had heard of most of those superheroes --- Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Thor. GOTG and Ant-Man...? Hell, not even dedicated comic book geeks know much, if anything, about those properties. Those two are truly the only dice rolls Marvel Studios has ever made.

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It would be pretty sweet if Jamie was in the new Star Wars. But it might be too early for casting.

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Yes....yes, GOTG and Ant-Man *are* the riskiest ventures Marvel has undertaken. All their other films had built-in comic-nerd fanbases, and even non-fanboys had heard of most of those superheroes --- Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Thor. GOTG and Ant-Man...? Hell, not even dedicated comic book geeks know much, if anything, about those properties. Those two are truly the only dice rolls Marvel Studios has ever made.
Agreed. I suppose you could argue that creating a studio just to do CBMs was the biggest risk, but as far as film choices go? These are the riskiest two by far.

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Is it too early for Justice League casting?
Well....no. But wouldn't you do that in a Justice League thread instead of a Thor thread....?

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Agreed. I suppose you could argue that creating a studio just to do CBMs was the biggest risk, but as far as film choices go? These are the riskiest two by far.
What will really suck...I hope it doesn't ever happen, but it is in the realm of possibility that they might one day in the future venture into other kinds of movies. And that would mean longer periods of time between Comic Book movies with finances going elsewhere. Like I said I don't think it will happen anytime soon, but the idea of it stinks. It's just paranoia that has no root at this point. Just an observation.

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Yes....yes, GOTG and Ant-Man *are* the riskiest ventures Marvel has undertaken. All their other films had built-in comic-nerd fanbases, and even non-fanboys had heard of most of those superheroes --- Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Thor. GOTG and Ant-Man...? Hell, not even dedicated comic book geeks know much, if anything, about those properties. Those two are truly the only dice rolls Marvel Studios has ever made.
No, not even close. Hindsight is, ironically, clouding you're view.

GotG & AM could both totally tank at the BO and it won't make much of a dent in their bank account or in their plans rolling forward. They still have a BO juggernaut in The Avengers, at least 2 other proven big money makers in Iron Man & Thor, and potentially another 2 in Cap & Hulk depending on how much TA boosts them.

Starting this whole thing in the first place, taking out a loan of hundreds of millions for IM & TIH (If they tanked, no more Marvel Studios), introducing the heros in solo films first, then actually bringing them all together (and hiring a guy with only one previous film, which bombed at the BO, & no big budget experience to do it) were all bigger risks than GotG & AM which, after the huge success of TA, can fall back on the Marvel brand to help sell - "from the people that brought you The Avengers".

GotG & AM are in a damn good position, a far better position than any Phase 1 films were.

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What will really suck...I hope it doesn't ever happen, but it is in the realm of possibility that they might one day in the future venture into other kinds of movies. And that would mean longer periods of time between Comic Book movies with finances going elsewhere. Like I said I don't think it will happen anytime soon, but the idea of it stinks. It's just paranoia that has no root at this point. Just an observation.
I think it's highly likely MS will expand into doing non-MCU films, and I don't think that would interfere with their CBM's. After Phase 2 they could easily start producing low budget films, one or two a year alongside the 2 priority MCU films.

I could see the likes of Black or Wright pitching quirky, low budget films to Marvel.

They were already seriously considering doing Ant Man as a 3rd film in 2014 (which Wright's schedule ended up not allowing), so expansion is clearly on the table.

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Ant-Man and GOTG *do* have a potential impact on the Avengers and the MCU as a whole.

The current consensus is that Thanos is the big bad for TA2, and that he'll be introduced in GOTG. If GOTG tanks, nobody is going to want to see a failed villain return for the Phase II finale.

And Ant-Man brings his own mythos to the MCU, particularly the Avengers. There's a lot of potential future Avenger-related characters that are dependent on the success of Hank Pym at the box office: Janet Van Dyne, Scott Lang, Ultron, Vision, Jocasta, Simon Williams, Bill Foster.

The failure of GOTG and/or Ant-Man would have a large impact on the future of the Avengers franchise. At the very least, if either tanks, Marvel is going to have to scramble to rewrite and probably reshoot some major story arcs involving top Avenger villains --- namely, Thanos and Ultron.

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Honestly. I see there are 3 types of audiences. There is us, the comic book lovers. Then there are the interested GA, they don't follow comics, but they've seen the trailers enough to want to see the movies, and know that there will be sequels and such. Minor bandwagon fans if you will, like...your friend that says, oh, ironman 3 looks sick, so does thor 2. Then there is the regular GA, who simply is just the regular general audience, where ant man or gotg may not be too big.

Yes, Gotg and ant-man certainly are risky. However if they are advertised right, I am sure they will do fine. The comic fans are going to see the movies regardless, as will most likely the interested GA, because of the "from the studios that brought you the avengers, ironman, thor..etc", just knowing it's a marvel movie, taking place in the same universe may get some of these people atleast somewhat interested. And we could assume SOME of the regular GA will go to see it. Not to mention, lets say some of the people's sources are correct, and Janet is introduced, as is Pym, and Ultron for avengers 2. Well IF IF IF that's the case, the following ant man movie won't be as risky.

My point being that yeah, GotG and ant man are risky in a sense, but given what marvel studios has done and such, I personally believe it is safe to say that, given how its even settled with the GA, that any movie put out by marvel will at minimum do okay, but I doubt a flop.

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My point being that yeah, GotG and ant man are risky in a sense, but given what marvel studios has done and such, I personally believe it is safe to say that, given how its even settled with the GA, that any movie put out by marvel will at minimum do okay, but I doubt a flop.
I agree. Only if the movie in question is a colossal stinker, the stench of which is unprecedented, will the movie flop. The more likely downside is that it does merely okay.

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