The Reboot Joker - Page 8

Rodrigo90 · 07-19-2013, 01:03 PM

His crazy/manic and show stealing performances as the Doctor

Bathead · 07-19-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Uroboric Forms

Can I ask what everyone sees in Matt Smith? I have seen nothing that makes me think he would make a good Joker.

All I know is, watching his manic intensity that he displays as Doctor Who, I feel confident he could do a credible Joker, and he certainly has the look and the build.

Uroboric Forms · 07-19-2013, 01:27 PM

See, I feel the exact opposite. I think I've seen enough of him as the Doctor to make a judgement, and all I've seen him play is an inconsistently characterised foppish hipster-type who occasionally seems to break that character by turning serious and shouting. Not trying to bash anyone for wanting him to play it, but I've seen absolutely nothing that would make me think he could play a competent Joker.

Then again, who knows? Maybe he could pull a Heath Ledger and surprise me.

Rowsdower! · 07-19-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Uroboric Forms

Can I ask what everyone sees in Matt Smith? I have seen nothing that makes me think he would make a good Joker.

I don't watch Dr. Who so I can't comment on his acting ability. But his face already looks like a mask (IMO) so I guess that's something? I don't know.

Seriously, his face reminds me of that weird rubber mask Ryan Gosling wears in Drive. Only with hair.

regwec · 07-20-2013, 02:10 PM

His notable role so far is, obviously, Doctor Who, where he demonstrates superb range and very observant character acting, as well as an innate and compelling charisma.

I see from the way you have phrased the question that you're not going to agree.

Neno_Kos · 07-20-2013, 06:59 PM

Walton Goggins for new Joker

LeChiffre · 07-20-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neno_Kos

Walton Goggins for new Joker

For anyone who's seen his delivery as Boyd Crowder, this is an absolute yes. Walton Goggins is fantastic.

Uroboric Forms · 07-22-2013, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by regwec

His notable role so far is, obviously, Doctor Who, where he demonstrates superb range and very observant character acting, as well as an innate and compelling charisma.

I see from the way you have phrased the question that you're not going to agree.

Well, I don't agree currently, but I haven't seen anything that sways my opinion. I'm not so stubborn that I would completely rule out an actor and refuse to even consider the notion of them as the character, but he is part of the reason that I stopped watching Doctor Who in the first place.

regwec · 07-22-2013, 07:32 AM

Strange, I think he's twice the talent that David Tenant was.

Uroboric Forms · 07-22-2013, 08:10 AM

I didn't really care for Tennant either. Eccleston though, Eccleston was the man.

regwec · 07-22-2013, 08:19 AM

Don't disagree, he seems to be a bit on an awkward fellow to work with, though.

Uroboric Forms · 07-22-2013, 08:51 AM

Eccleston? How so?

Double B · 07-22-2013, 08:54 AM

Yikes, I think Tennant and Smith are two of the hammiest actors one could find. Much prefer Eccleston.

regwec · 07-22-2013, 09:20 AM

I hope you're not just basing that on their respective Doctor Whos, since that part is hammy/manic by design. The Joker is also wantonly theatrical, anyway.

Double B · 07-22-2013, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by regwec

I hope you're not just basing that on their respective Doctor Whos, since that part is hammy/manic by design. The Joker is also wantonly theatrical, anyway.

I'm basing it on Tennant's work as a whole. I'm not a fan. I've only ever seen Matt Smith in two other roles, and he was adequate, but I wouldn't want him as Joker.

I think Eccleston nailed the OTT aspects of the Doctor with ease, without appearing hammy. But I would prefer them to think outside of the box in regards to casting Joker.

regwec · 07-22-2013, 09:57 AM

What was hammy about Tennant's Hamlet?

Gianakin_ · 07-23-2013, 02:12 AM

Iwan Rheon's where it's at.

regwec · 07-23-2013, 05:56 AM

He's appears to be a midget.

Gianakin_ · 07-23-2013, 06:00 AM

Shouldn't be a problem if he's otherwise right for the part.

EDIT: Wait a sec, he's supposed to be 1,73m tall. Are you trying to imply something about the people this tall?

regwec · 07-23-2013, 06:16 AM

No, not at all. I am no giraffe myself. But the heights given on actors' bios are always exaggerated, unless the actor is actually a giant, in which case they are reduced. He appears to be a lot shorter than 5'8", judged by pictures of him with other actors of comparable height.

The imagery of The Joker, for me, is quite important. His frame is quite specific. He should be tall, lank and looming. I realise that this doesn't describe either Jack Nicholson or Heath Ledger, but it would be nice to finally see someone who is "dead-on" for the part.

Rodrigo90 · 07-23-2013, 06:19 AM

Matt Smith is dead on

Gianakin_ · 07-23-2013, 06:20 AM

Ah, I understand. Yeah, in that case you actually do need someone like Crispin Glover, only talented enough to rise to the occasion.

DACrowe · 07-23-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Double B

Yikes, I think Tennant and Smith are two of the hammiest actors one could find. Much prefer Eccleston.

Go watch Eccleston do a comic book like movie in GI Joe. You'll have enough ham until Thanksgiving. Sad, but true.

Eddie Dean · 07-23-2013, 09:31 AM

That ham is delicious, though.

bapi · 07-23-2013, 01:54 PM

I'd want a surprising choice again so...

Josh Hartnett

07-19-2013, 01:03 PM	#176
Rodrigo90 Boy Wonder Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Geordie Shore Posts: 17,223	Re: The Reboot Joker His crazy/manic and show stealing performances as the Doctor __________________ "A hero is an ordinary individual who finds the strength to persevere and endure in spite of overwhelming obstacles " Christopher Reeve I believe in Batfleck Things I have been right about before they were confirmed - Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: 1. Superman having no trunks 2. Bruce Wayne retiring and Batman being made a martyr 3. Bryan Cranston NOT being Lex Luthor 4. Joker being the big bad in Batman: Arkham Origins

07-19-2013, 01:27 PM	#178
Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 833	Re: The Reboot Joker See, I feel the exact opposite. I think I've seen enough of him as the Doctor to make a judgement, and all I've seen him play is an inconsistently characterised foppish hipster-type who occasionally seems to break that character by turning serious and shouting. Not trying to bash anyone for wanting him to play it, but I've seen absolutely nothing that would make me think he could play a competent Joker. Then again, who knows? Maybe he could pull a Heath Ledger and surprise me.

07-20-2013, 02:10 PM	#180
regwec Shakespearo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herne's Oak Posts: 19,942	Re: The Reboot Joker His notable role so far is, obviously, Doctor Who, where he demonstrates superb range and very observant character acting, as well as an innate and compelling charisma. I see from the way you have phrased the question that you're not going to agree. __________________ Feel like using the word "hyperbole"? Better check what it means! It is unnecessary to point out that somebody's opinion is their opinion. Don't. . Worried they might cast a black man as your favourite superhero? :(

07-20-2013, 06:59 PM	#181
Neno_Kos Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 299	Re: The Reboot Joker Walton Goggins for new Joker

07-22-2013, 07:32 AM	#184
regwec Shakespearo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herne's Oak Posts: 19,942	Re: The Reboot Joker Strange, I think he's twice the talent that David Tenant was. __________________ Feel like using the word "hyperbole"? Better check what it means! It is unnecessary to point out that somebody's opinion is their opinion. Don't. . Worried they might cast a black man as your favourite superhero? :(

07-22-2013, 08:10 AM	#185
Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 833	Re: The Reboot Joker I didn't really care for Tennant either. Eccleston though, Eccleston was the man.

07-22-2013, 08:19 AM	#186
regwec Shakespearo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herne's Oak Posts: 19,942	Re: The Reboot Joker Don't disagree, he seems to be a bit on an awkward fellow to work with, though. __________________ Feel like using the word "hyperbole"? Better check what it means! It is unnecessary to point out that somebody's opinion is their opinion. Don't. . Worried they might cast a black man as your favourite superhero? :(

07-22-2013, 08:51 AM	#187
Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 833	Re: The Reboot Joker Eccleston? How so?

07-22-2013, 08:54 AM	#188
Double B Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,129	Re: The Reboot Joker Yikes, I think Tennant and Smith are two of the hammiest actors one could find. Much prefer Eccleston.

07-22-2013, 09:20 AM	#189
regwec Shakespearo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herne's Oak Posts: 19,942	Re: The Reboot Joker I hope you're not just basing that on their respective Doctor Whos, since that part is hammy/manic by design. The Joker is also wantonly theatrical, anyway. __________________ Feel like using the word "hyperbole"? Better check what it means! It is unnecessary to point out that somebody's opinion is their opinion. Don't. . Worried they might cast a black man as your favourite superhero? :(

07-22-2013, 09:57 AM	#191
regwec Shakespearo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herne's Oak Posts: 19,942	Re: The Reboot Joker What was hammy about Tennant's Hamlet? __________________ Feel like using the word "hyperbole"? Better check what it means! It is unnecessary to point out that somebody's opinion is their opinion. Don't. . Worried they might cast a black man as your favourite superhero? :(

07-23-2013, 02:12 AM	#192
Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 19,282	Re: The Reboot Joker Iwan Rheon's where it's at. __________________ Official Joss Whedon hater after his thoughts on Empire Strikes Back and Temple of Doom Proud "Ben Affleck will do more than star in B/S" conspiracy theorist *Avvy by Kane52630*

07-23-2013, 05:56 AM	#193
regwec Shakespearo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herne's Oak Posts: 19,942	Re: The Reboot Joker He's appears to be a midget. __________________ Feel like using the word "hyperbole"? Better check what it means! It is unnecessary to point out that somebody's opinion is their opinion. Don't. . Worried they might cast a black man as your favourite superhero? :(

07-23-2013, 06:00 AM	#194
Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 19,282	Re: The Reboot Joker Shouldn't be a problem if he's otherwise right for the part. EDIT: Wait a sec, he's supposed to be 1,73m tall. Are you trying to imply something about the people this tall? __________________ Official Joss Whedon hater after his thoughts on Empire Strikes Back and Temple of Doom Proud "Ben Affleck will do more than star in B/S" conspiracy theorist *Avvy by Kane52630* Last edited by Gianakin_; 07-23-2013 at 06:05 AM.

07-23-2013, 06:16 AM	#195
regwec Shakespearo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herne's Oak Posts: 19,942	Re: The Reboot Joker No, not at all. I am no giraffe myself. But the heights given on actors' bios are always exaggerated, unless the actor is actually a giant, in which case they are reduced. He appears to be a lot shorter than 5'8", judged by pictures of him with other actors of comparable height. The imagery of The Joker, for me, is quite important. His frame is quite specific. He should be tall, lank and looming. I realise that this doesn't describe either Jack Nicholson or Heath Ledger, but it would be nice to finally see someone who is "dead-on" for the part. __________________ Feel like using the word "hyperbole"? Better check what it means! It is unnecessary to point out that somebody's opinion is their opinion. Don't. . Worried they might cast a black man as your favourite superhero? :(

07-23-2013, 06:19 AM	#196
Rodrigo90 Boy Wonder Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Geordie Shore Posts: 17,223	Re: The Reboot Joker Matt Smith is dead on __________________ "A hero is an ordinary individual who finds the strength to persevere and endure in spite of overwhelming obstacles " Christopher Reeve I believe in Batfleck Things I have been right about before they were confirmed - Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: 1. Superman having no trunks 2. Bruce Wayne retiring and Batman being made a martyr 3. Bryan Cranston NOT being Lex Luthor 4. Joker being the big bad in Batman: Arkham Origins

07-23-2013, 06:20 AM	#197
Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 19,282	Re: The Reboot Joker Ah, I understand. Yeah, in that case you actually do need someone like Crispin Glover, only talented enough to rise to the occasion. __________________ Official Joss Whedon hater after his thoughts on Empire Strikes Back and Temple of Doom Proud "Ben Affleck will do more than star in B/S" conspiracy theorist *Avvy by Kane52630*

07-23-2013, 09:31 AM	#199
Eddie Dean I Am Not Nice Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pangaea Posts: 6,135	Re: The Reboot Joker That ham is delicious, though. __________________ Jesse Eisenberg Forever

07-23-2013, 01:54 PM	#200
bapi Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,445	Re: The Reboot Joker I'd want a surprising choice again so... Josh Hartnett __________________ Manchester City, Werder Bremen, Chicago Bulls, New Jersey Devils and Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 supporter Heath Ledger, 1979-2008

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