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Old 02-19-2013, 03:28 AM   #201
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There will be an appearance by an established Marvel character who hasn't yet appeared on film no later than the third episode. Calling it now.
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I'm sure we'll see at least one in the pilot.

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Which film is this from? Scarlett looks younger there... and hot.

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If I'm being honest, I am agreeing a little bit with Sam here in that Whedon's comments left me a bit disappointed. I'm sure the show will still be great and entertaining but I want Marvel characters, week in and week out. I don't mind that the main cast is not from the comics but I really want to see them interacting with heroes and villains alike, and I want it frequently.

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I was watching Avengers a couple of nights ago and started wondering what the guys who escort Loki to his cage get up to when they're not off camera. Or the fighter pilots who were all on the deck when Cap and Banner first landed on the helicarrier. Or all the soldiers that Loki killed during his intro.

Thats what this show will be about. The nobodies. Is that so bad?

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Everybody keeps talking about "Joss this and Joss that," and In Joss We Trust and all that, but people need to remember that this is not Joss' series. He is directing the pilot, but if it gets picked up, the show will be run by JED Whedon, Jeffrey Bell, and Mo Tancharoen.
He will hopefully be as involved as he was with Angel and some people thought that show was better than Buffy.

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Which film is this from? Scarlett looks younger there... and hot.
I actually don't know, but I'd like to find out too.
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I was watching Avengers a couple of nights ago and started wondering what the guys who escort Loki to his cage get up to when they're not off camera. Or the fighter pilots who were all on the deck when Cap and Banner first landed on the helicarrier. Or all the soldiers that Loki killed during his intro.

Thats what this show will be about. The nobodies. Is that so bad?
Hell yeah, this show could be about representing all the redshirts of the Marvel universe. And that sounds great to me.

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I was watching Avengers a couple of nights ago and started wondering what the guys who escort Loki to his cage get up to when they're not off camera. Or the fighter pilots who were all on the deck when Cap and Banner first landed on the helicarrier. Or all the soldiers that Loki killed during his intro.

Thats what this show will be about. The nobodies. Is that so bad?
I wouldn't mind having some of those same scenes shot from a different angle where it's from the point of view of these guys. You could then see what they get up to, and how they might idolise some of these heroes.

Seems like this show might be similar to that ST:TNG episode "Lower Decks".

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See, that's what I was afraid of. Making up a bunch of new characters and not paying tribute to the thousands upon thousands of existing characters they already have, famour or no.

Those comments from Joss definitely just lowered my expectations by a huge chunk. I'm now expecting a garden variety crime/spy drama that doesn't even seem to take place in a super-powered world, with no-name characters nobody has heard of.

Don't know what Marvel and Joss were thinking, but sounds like they missed the mark by a long shot.
I don't know what you're on about, but this is what I got from the interview:

“We’re trying very hard to be true to [Marvel's] ethos and also to the structure of their universe, so it is definitely a Marvel show."
There will be no mistaking that this show is pure Marvel.

"Don't expect a ton of familiar faces from the Marvel-verse, though there’s a little bit of talk of that."
The show isn't going to revolve around random characters from the comics, but we're not going to neglect them.

"Right now, I want to involve people in the characters that we’ve created for the show and then we’ll worry about [the other stuff].”
Once we get people to buy into the show at its core, anything is possible after that.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is exactly what I want from this show.

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I'm hoping for a good show that doesn't feel like something from the CW. Arrow has quite a few comic characters, but it still feels rather generic and indistinguishable from all the other CW shows out there despite that.

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I don't know what you're on about, but this is what I got from the interview:

“We’re trying very hard to be true to [Marvel's] ethos and also to the structure of their universe, so it is definitely a Marvel show."
There will be no mistaking that this show is pure Marvel.

"Don't expect a ton of familiar faces from the Marvel-verse, though there’s a little bit of talk of that."
The show isn't going to revolve around random characters from the comics, but we're not going to neglect them.

"Right now, I want to involve people in the characters that we’ve created for the show and then we’ll worry about [the other stuff].”
Once we get people to buy into the show at its core, anything is possible after that.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is exactly what I want from this show.
The interview left me a little deflated, but your interpretation could be right. I mean, I'm sure there are going to be super-powered people on the show, I'm just hope that they will be recognizable from the comics. Still very excited to see more about this and hopefully get some photos.

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Protestants fought wars?

Anyway, it's Coulson. We know Coulson: He shows up, talks to some non powered people, looks at some artifacts, breaks up some robberies, transfers some prisoners and deals with the edges of these epic conflicts. Now he has a team of mini-Coulson's that answer to him.

It's less "lower decks" and more "TNG episodes that follow classic TOS episodes." In fact, it really is just TNG and we're like "None of the TOS ("real Star Trek characters") crew are getting any focus?! This isn't Star Trek at all!!!!"

Which... is precisely what people did in the 80s when it came out.

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I'm hoping for a good show that doesn't feel like something from the CW. Arrow has quite a few comic characters, but it still feels rather generic and indistinguishable from all the other CW shows out there despite that.
I love Supernatural but it feels pretty cheap at times. Definitely hoping this leans more towards Lost or 24 quality production value.

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Protestants fought wars?
Um....yes. Quite a ****ton of them, actually. The Thirty Years' War in Europe during the Reformation, the Eighty Years' War in Holland, the French Wars of Religion, The English Civil War, the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland....



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Which... is precisely what people did in the 80s when it came out.
No, that's not the analogy. If you want to use the Star Trek Universe as an analogy, it would be like them deciding to create a cop series set on earth in the Trek Universe that did not feature the Federation or aliens or starships --- you know, the things you actually expect to find in Star Trek. Or a Star Wars show centering around garbage collectors on Coruscant.

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Or a Star Wars show centering around garbage collectors on Coruscant.
Hey, don't knock it. That could be the show Shield opens for next year...

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If the show is good, it won't matter to me how close or far it is from the superhero action. It would only open up even more opportunities for other Marvel TV shows. If the show is bad, it won't get picked up, and maybe they'll fire Loeb. The thing I fear most is a mediocre show with mediocre quality that lasts two seasons and doesn't meet its own potential, and ruins Marvel's TV future.

But I'm not going to worry too much about it...IM3 comes out in only just over two months!

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Um....yes. Quite a ****ton of them, actually. The Thirty Years' War in Europe during the Reformation, the Eighty Years' War in Holland, the French Wars of Religion, The English Civil War, the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland....
Hmmm... way too off topic to follow up on, but the same principles apply as below.

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What does SHIELD not have that you expect to find in the Marvel universe?

At the end of the day "There will be some people with powers," (Joss), if you want to get all hung up like because they aren't the focus they aren't there at all, that's all you, bro.

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if you want to get all hung up like because they aren't the focus they aren't there at all, that's all you, bro.
Your Maria Hill gif is how I feel when I read that guy's rants.

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What does SHIELD not have that you expect to find in the Marvel universe?
Oh, I dunno: superheroes fighting supervillains? Call me crazy, I know....superheroes in a superhero genre? I know, right?

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Yeah? I don't recall asking you, or giving a rat's ass.

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Which film is this from? Scarlett looks younger there... and hot.
I believe it's from A Love Song for Bobby Long.

This show was never billed as a superhero show. It's about the government agency that has to serve, protect and manage a world in which superheroes (and all the crazy s*** that comes with them) exist. Considering that's always been the main function of SHIELD in the Marvel comics universe, I fail to see how this is somehow not a real Marvel show.

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I believe it's from A Love Song for Bobby Long.
I've seen that film but didn't remember it was from it. Scarlett does some sexy dancing in there. Ok, maybe it's not sexy and certainly not meant to be sensuous but she is very attractive while dancing in a girl next door kind of way.

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Oh, I dunno: superheroes fighting supervillains? Call me crazy, I know....superheroes in a superhero genre? I know, right?



Yeah? I don't recall asking you, or giving a rat's ass.
You're such an ass dude. Grabbing my popcorn to watch you to continue coming in here and crying.

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The show has never once been billed as that. It's always been "low-rank SHIELD agents in the MCU"

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Oh, I dunno: superheroes fighting supervillains? Call me crazy, I know....superheroes in a superhero genre? I know, right?
SHIELD has never been superheroes fighting supervillains, not in the comics, not in the movies, not ever. SHIELD is a group of highly trained agents that deal with larger than life things including superheroes and villains, artifacts, technology, rival organizations and a bunch of other bizarre and interesting situations. Newsflash, that or something in the realm of that is almost certainly what we're getting with this show, and if you thought we'd be getting anything other than that then your expectations were completely off base.

Also, how dare you compare this to "a cop series set on earth in the Trek Universe that did not feature the Federation or aliens or starships." or "a Star Wars show centering around garbage collectors on Coruscant." That's a complete insult to Joss Whedon's credibility, and based only on your twisted interpretation of a few short answers in an interview.

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