The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 1

[Ant-manic]

Originally Posted by I'm Venom

Masters of Evil would be interesting after Thanos. There are a few members that are confirmed for a movie or have been featured in one. Abomination has been featured. Crossbones is confirmed for Captain America 2 (and the actor has a multi-film contract). Characters like Baron Zemo, Enchantress, and Executioner could easily feature in Phase III films.

i could see them using the Liberators from the Ultimate comics before the Masters of Evil (which is kind of a hokey name when you think about it).

[I'm Venom]

Originally Posted by Ant-manic

i could see them using the Liberators from the Ultimate comics before the Masters of Evil (which is kind of a hokey name when you think about it).

It would make for a humorous scene if the Masters of Evil were gathered for the first time and trying to come up with a name.

[I'm Venom]

Even if the name is played out, it could work in a film.

[Dark Raven]

I see Iron Man nicknaming them the Masters of Evil, even if the villains try to come up with a more serious name. Maybe they'll call themselves the Masters, and Stark adds "of evil" to it.

If he provokes them enough, he'll be labelled a masters baiter.

[chamber-music]

They woudl probably just be called 'the masters' the same way the brotherhod of evil mutants are just 'the brotherhood' in the X-Men films.

[Chewy]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/n...tionships.html

[Crimson King]

Good. This fits with his desire to make it a "smaller" movie. I'm still trying to figure out how a huge cosmic threat like Thanos fits in there. They're still pretty new to each other. Maybe taking them off-world and forcing them to work together could be one way to highlight the interactions.

[Whiskey Tango]

Maybe they'll be fighting a 2-inch tall, tiny Thanos!

[Crimson King]

Now you're talkin

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by Crimson King

Good. This fits with his desire to make it a "smaller" movie. I'm still trying to figure out how a huge cosmic threat like Thanos fits in there. They're still pretty new to each other. Maybe taking them off-world and forcing them to work together could be one way to highlight the interactions.

Thanos is a "huge" cosmic threat but he is still one character. A "small" story can easily be done with Thanos...that said you should not take "small" here literally.

[Crimson King]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

Thanos is a "huge" cosmic threat but he is still one character. A "small" story can easily be done with Thanos...that said you should not take "small" here literally.

Not sure if serious. I can never tell when people are joking on the web.

In case you're not joking, yes, I know he's not actually going to be small. What I meant was that Thanos is usually tied to huge events occurring in the universe. When I hear Whedon say he's going smaller, I assume he means that there will be more focus on the characters rather than a big fight like the NYC throwdown. Maybe their fight is to interrupt him before he starts doing things like evaporating half of all life in the universe. The rumored kidnapping of Tony could also work to make the Thanos story more personal.

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango

Maybe they'll be fighting a 2-inch tall, tiny Thanos!

Ant-Man vs Thanos wirefu fight

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by Crimson King

Not sure if serious. I can never tell when people are joking on the web.

In case you're not joking, yes, I know he's not actually going to be small. What I meant was that Thanos is usually tied to huge events occurring in the universe. When I hear Whedon say he's going smaller, I assume he means that there will be more focus on the characters rather than a big fight like the NYC throwdown. Maybe their fight is to interrupt him before he starts doing things like evaporating half of all life in the universe. The rumored kidnapping of Tony could also work to make the Thanos story more personal.

I'm not sure why you would think I was joking.

But yes, I'm thinking of something along those lines as well. The team will be pushed to their limits by one single villain, Thanos, rather than by Loki's trickery and a giant army of aliens. That would definitely make for an even better movie, like Whedon has been saying.

[JB-the-Hunter]

I don't actually recall Whedon ever saying he would make the movie smaller. He just said the plan wasn't to go bigger. Not the same thing IMO.

[Crimson King]

Here's his exact quote:

“By not trying to [go bigger]. By being smaller. More personal, more painful. By being the next thing that should happen to these characters, and not just a rehash of what seemed to work the first time. By having a theme that is completely fresh and organic to itself.”

Source: http://screenrant.com/avengers-2-sto...n-kofi-158346/

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by JB-the-Hunter

I don't actually recall Whedon ever saying he would make the movie smaller. He just said the plan wasn't to go bigger. Not the same thing IMO.

He said in a recent interview it would be a "smaller" film.

EDIT: Actually, never mind, no he didn't. He said he would "dig into the relationships".

[JB-the-Hunter]

Originally Posted by Crimson King

Here's his exact quote:


Source: http://screenrant.com/avengers-2-sto...n-kofi-158346/

I stand corrected.

[Artistsean]

Do you think Avengers 2 will bring the Guardians of the Galaxy into the film like the comics
(based on the movie) have recently done. And have Iron Man go into space with them?

[Mr. Dent]

Yes, I think they will be in the movie. And yes, Iron Man will be in space and meet them to some extent.

[I'm Venom]

Hope not. I'd rather them focus on the characters they have.

[blalex620]

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/con...ge-no-avengers

Well Feige just said GotG would be 95% in space and is less of a tie-in movie than any other movie.

[chamber-music]

Originally Posted by I'm Venom

Hope not. I'd rather them focus on the characters they have.

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I would rather they develop the characters relationships from the first movie and perhaps add a couple ofther characters.

Whedon and Renner both want to develop Hawkeye a bit more as well seeing as he was brainwashed most the Avengers and isn't showing up in any other Phase 2 films besides the avengers sequel.

[blalex620]

Originally Posted by chamber-music

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I would rather they develop the characters relationships from the first movie and perhaps add a couple ofther characters.

Whedon and Renner both want to develop Hawkeyea bit more as well seeing as he was brainwashed most the Avengers and isn't showing up in any other Phase 2 films besides the avengers sequel.

Would love this. Wish we could see more of him. Hopefully if Black Widow is well received in CA: TWS then it could open up the possibility of a solo film for her Feige said was possible, then in it include Hawkeye. If not at least start expanding on their relationship a lot more. We saw a glimpse of the real Hawkeye in Thor and now we need more of that.

Also as long as we have a new female member of the team in A2 I'll be a happy fanboy

[Son of Coul]

I know we're basically past the Planet Hulk/WWH business by now, but reiterating:

http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/03/05...the-avengers-2

Originally Posted by Joss Whedon

Well I’m really not supposed to comment, but no, that’s nonsense.

[Dark Raven]

El Maybe might say that Whedon changed the script just to spite him. Maybe it was originally Planet Hulk.