Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread

The Squirrel · 01-23-2013, 04:41 PM

Episode 11 Summary:

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Oliver and Diggle are at odds when Diggle's former commanding officer is next on the list. Meanwhile, Thea notices when Moira and Malcolm spend time together, while Tommy and Laurel have dinner with Tommy's father.

The Squirrel · 01-23-2013, 08:04 PM

This was a much better episode than "Burned." Ben Bowder is always good. And the Arrow fight scenes were exciting.

BlackMagicWolf · 01-23-2013, 08:25 PM

This episode was great, the last minute of the show will be burned into my mind until its resolved in the story.

HighFivingMF · 01-23-2013, 08:28 PM

This is my favorite episode so far. DIGGLE!

Can't wait until next week either, that preview was awesome.

Human Torch · 01-23-2013, 08:29 PM

I actually missed the first half,so I can't give a fair grade yet,til I catch it on On Demand.

But from what I've seen,it looked real good.It's starting to feel like we're building toward something bigger,now.

nbanflguy · 01-23-2013, 08:32 PM

Vertigo seems like a mix of joker and scarecrow. Cant wait

DarkSovereignty · 01-23-2013, 08:36 PM

I love the cinematography in this show, when tommy was describing his father over that tracking shot in his dark archer lair...so awesome.

marvelrobbins · 01-23-2013, 08:55 PM

Burned was more the aftermath of winter break.This Is about getting the story back on.
They are almost doing 2 shows In one.The flashbacks are having a smnay twists and turns
as present story.

Tvar10 · 01-23-2013, 09:19 PM

Great episode. Keeps getting better every week

ChukNoris · 01-23-2013, 09:34 PM

9 IMO

Great storyline and epic preview!

vantheman77 · 01-23-2013, 09:38 PM

After last week, they got back on track when conflict arises between Oliver and Diggle over Diggle's former commanding officer who happens to be on the list for a reason and later it was revealed. Trust issues are the theme here concerning
Oliver/ Moira, Moira/ Malcolm, Tommy/ Malcolm, and Thea/ Moira. They turned the Blackhawks into something that's different from the comics and they laid the groundwork for the next episode. This series has succeeded in an area that Smallville didn't and that's moving the story forward. In Smallville, it was a lot of stalling and lightswitching. This episode belonged to Diggle and much better start.

Gotham's Knight · 01-23-2013, 10:30 PM

Fantastic new episode. Though, two things stuck out to me:

1. After Oliver leaves that tech girl, she smiles. Then they cut to another angle and she makes the same movement and smiles again.

2. When the African American soldier is aiming his rifle at Diggle at the end, the arrow comes out and pierces it. But the arrow comes from the side....as Oliver comes from behind. He finally has trick arrows! :P

The Englishman · 01-24-2013, 06:08 AM

He's had Trick Arrows for a while now.

Dangerman · 01-24-2013, 07:28 AM

Why does his best friend story come off more as Lex/Lionel 2.0.

greenlantern248 · 01-24-2013, 01:15 PM

I really enjoyed this episode, I thought it was really well done. The fights was awesome, the acting was spot on. The island twist caught me surprised, fits with the theme of the episode though.
I liked that introducing the drug in this episode was a great move, to me it no longer feels like every episode is a stand alone episode.

Human Torch · 01-24-2013, 04:07 PM

I'm gonna give this one a 9.It was the the first episode in a while that had me interested in every sub-plot.The one lacking thing was the lackluster villains.
And they got killed.
Again.
The twist at the end was unexpected,but things seemed to point that Ollie would be joining this "group" at some point.Otherwise it's doubtful he'd have lasted 5 days on the island controled by that platoon,much less 5 years.

Nightwing · 01-24-2013, 04:56 PM

Solid ep last night from start to finish. I thought it hit all the right notes from the fights, to the flashbacks and overall story. Definitely one of my favorite episodes this season...And the ending made it all the more better. Can't wait to see where that goes.

Next week Joke--I mean Vertigo!

Lencho01 · 01-24-2013, 07:23 PM

Though the episode was better than the last one.

Was hoping they'd show them working on their fire sprinkler at the club since it'd be funny given that they had a fire department benefit when the place clearly wasn't up to code yet.

They finally had someone call their lair the Arrowcave (which even has water faliing from some source).

gohei_ · 01-25-2013, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gotham's Knight

Fantastic new episode. Though, two things stuck out to me:

1. After Oliver leaves that tech girl, she smiles. Then they cut to another angle and she makes the same movement and smiles again.

I watched that scene again and in my eyes it doesn't look like she's making the same movements, just following Oliver with her eyes.

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Originally Posted by Gotham's Knight

2. When the African American soldier is aiming his rifle at Diggle at the end, the arrow comes out and pierces it. But the arrow comes from the side....as Oliver comes from behind. He finally has trick arrows! :P

That has been in a previous episode as well, I think it's just an error on their part.

You know what, I really like the different clips of Ollie training but his pushups in this episode looked rather lame to be honest. He should have done something else with a little better form.

herolee10 · 01-25-2013, 04:10 PM

I also liked on how this episode kind of gave a better back story to Malcom's character and added a sense of tragedy to his past in the form of his wife having been murdered.

If I had to take a guess, based on Tommy's comment about on how his father disappeared for about a year or two after his mom had been killed, maybe that's when his father learned to become a efficient archer/killer that he is today.

mr. peasant · 01-25-2013, 05:31 PM

Wild speculation time... anyone reckon Malcolm trained during those missing years and that he began engineering the conspiracy to avenge his wife's death?

gohei_ · 01-25-2013, 05:38 PM

I'm thinking the same thing. He definitely trained to avenge his wife. The question is against who.

Gotham's Knight · 01-25-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Englishman

He's had Trick Arrows for a while now.

True, forgot about the USB and microphone arrows. What I should have said is that now he has an arrow with a programmable flight pattern.

**Hunter Rider** · 01-25-2013, 10:24 PM

I really enjoyed this weeks episode, it had a bit of everything, good development of several key relationships, a wake up call and new storyline for Thea, the breadcrumb laid for Vertigo and two cool heist action sequences.

Not sure what to make about the "twist" at the end or the revelation regarding Ollie having left the island before he actually was seemingly rescued.

signalman · 01-26-2013, 02:06 AM

What?!? no mentions the best part of the episode?

Thea wearing that micro party dress.

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01-23-2013, 08:04 PM	#2
The Squirrel Le Rongeur Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Up a tree Posts: 17,080	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread This was a much better episode than "Burned." Ben Bowder is always good. And the Arrow fight scenes were exciting.

01-23-2013, 08:25 PM	#3
BlackMagicWolf He who is BlackMagic Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 196	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread This episode was great, the last minute of the show will be burned into my mind until its resolved in the story.

01-23-2013, 08:28 PM	#4
HighFivingMF Welp. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 12,367	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread This is my favorite episode so far. DIGGLE! Can't wait until next week either, that preview was awesome. __________________ Avatar by TheIrishAvenger.

01-23-2013, 08:29 PM	#5
Human Torch Ladies call me Torch Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,103	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread I actually missed the first half,so I can't give a fair grade yet,til I catch it on On Demand. But from what I've seen,it looked real good.It's starting to feel like we're building toward something bigger,now.

01-23-2013, 08:32 PM	#6
nbanflguy Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 141	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread Vertigo seems like a mix of joker and scarecrow. Cant wait

01-23-2013, 08:36 PM	#7
DarkSovereignty 100 points to Gryffindor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: fish-shaped island, NY Posts: 6,853	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread I love the cinematography in this show, when tommy was describing his father over that tracking shot in his dark archer lair...so awesome. __________________ My top ten superhero movies: 1. Marvels the Avengers, 2. Man of steel, 3. The dark knight, 4. Dredd, 5. Iron man, 6. Superman II: the Richard donner cut, 7. X men: first class, 8. Spiderman 2, 9. Batman returns, 10. Darkman "i shouldn't make jokes. My mother taught me not to throw stones at cripples...but my father taught me to aim for their heads." -Ramsay Bolton

01-23-2013, 08:55 PM	#8
marvelrobbins Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: St. Louis,Missouri Posts: 4,719	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread Burned was more the aftermath of winter break.This Is about getting the story back on. They are almost doing 2 shows In one.The flashbacks are having a smnay twists and turns as present story.

01-23-2013, 09:19 PM	#9
Tvar10 I aim to misbehave... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oxford, CT Posts: 621	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread Great episode. Keeps getting better every week

01-23-2013, 09:34 PM	#10
ChukNoris Experienced Bra Fitter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Turn around Posts: 173	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread 9 IMO Great storyline and epic preview!

01-23-2013, 09:38 PM	#11
vantheman77 Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,951	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread After last week, they got back on track when conflict arises between Oliver and Diggle over Diggle's former commanding officer who happens to be on the list for a reason and later it was revealed. Trust issues are the theme here concerning Oliver/ Moira, Moira/ Malcolm, Tommy/ Malcolm, and Thea/ Moira. They turned the Blackhawks into something that's different from the comics and they laid the groundwork for the next episode. This series has succeeded in an area that Smallville didn't and that's moving the story forward. In Smallville, it was a lot of stalling and lightswitching. This episode belonged to Diggle and much better start.

01-23-2013, 10:30 PM	#12
Gotham's Knight Needs more George Carlin Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,295	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread Fantastic new episode. Though, two things stuck out to me: 1. After Oliver leaves that tech girl, she smiles. Then they cut to another angle and she makes the same movement and smiles again. 2. When the African American soldier is aiming his rifle at Diggle at the end, the arrow comes out and pierces it. But the arrow comes from the side....as Oliver comes from behind. He finally has trick arrows! :P

01-24-2013, 06:08 AM	#13
The Englishman Marching On Together Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leeds , England Posts: 4,904	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread He's had Trick Arrows for a while now. __________________ "But James I need you." "So does England!" "For England James?" "No......For me" "The things i do for England."

01-24-2013, 07:28 AM	#14
Dangerman the end is nigh Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 999	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread Why does his best friend story come off more as Lex/Lionel 2.0.

01-24-2013, 01:15 PM	#15
greenlantern248 Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,132	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread I really enjoyed this episode, I thought it was really well done. The fights was awesome, the acting was spot on. The island twist caught me surprised, fits with the theme of the episode though. I liked that introducing the drug in this episode was a great move, to me it no longer feels like every episode is a stand alone episode. __________________ No Evil Shall Escape My Sight, Let Those Who Worship Evil's Might Beware My Power Green Lantern's Light!

01-24-2013, 04:07 PM	#16
Human Torch Ladies call me Torch Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,103	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread I'm gonna give this one a 9.It was the the first episode in a while that had me interested in every sub-plot.The one lacking thing was the lackluster villains. And they got killed. Again. The twist at the end was unexpected,but things seemed to point that Ollie would be joining this "group" at some point.Otherwise it's doubtful he'd have lasted 5 days on the island controled by that platoon,much less 5 years.

01-24-2013, 04:56 PM	#17
Nightwing Things change Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 11,860	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread Solid ep last night from start to finish. I thought it hit all the right notes from the fights, to the flashbacks and overall story. Definitely one of my favorite episodes this season...And the ending made it all the more better. Can't wait to see where that goes. Next week Joke--I mean Vertigo! __________________ You'll never know if you can fly unless you take the risk of falling.

01-24-2013, 07:23 PM	#18
Lencho01 Shazoogle! Shazoogle! Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8,862	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread Though the episode was better than the last one. Was hoping they'd show them working on their fire sprinkler at the club since it'd be funny given that they had a fire department benefit when the place clearly wasn't up to code yet. They finally had someone call their lair the Arrowcave (which even has water faliing from some source). __________________ I was at some diplomatic party once. Got to talking to this princess who told me that when it came to Superman, I was missing the point. She told me, "His real strength lay in his generous spirit and sense of what's fair." - King Faraday

01-25-2013, 04:10 PM	#20
herolee10 Ultimate Hero Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 9,190	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread I also liked on how this episode kind of gave a better back story to Malcom's character and added a sense of tragedy to his past in the form of his wife having been murdered. If I had to take a guess, based on Tommy's comment about on how his father disappeared for about a year or two after his mom had been killed, maybe that's when his father learned to become a efficient archer/killer that he is today.

01-25-2013, 05:31 PM	#21
mr. peasant Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,552	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread Wild speculation time... anyone reckon Malcolm trained during those missing years and that he began engineering the conspiracy to avenge his wife's death?

01-25-2013, 10:24 PM	#24
Hunter Rider Ronin SHH! Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Camp Manuel Posts: 122,434	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread I really enjoyed this weeks episode, it had a bit of everything, good development of several key relationships, a wake up call and new storyline for Thea, the breadcrumb laid for Vertigo and two cool heist action sequences. Not sure what to make about the "twist" at the end or the revelation regarding Ollie having left the island before he actually was seemingly rescued. __________________ thinkmcflythink.com Movie fans, hop in your Delorean and check it out! "Now this life is etched in black but I wont be looking back, the rain washed out the tracks, I'll never find again"

01-26-2013, 02:06 AM	#25
signalman Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 308	Re: Episode 11: Trust But Verify - Discussion/Rate & Review Thread What?!? no mentions the best part of the episode? Thea wearing that micro party dress.

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