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Old 01-24-2013, 06:54 PM   #101
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If you're gonna have a female lead, you really have to take on the unique qualities of women that men lack, and use it properly. Many-a times, you'll have women who are either just window dressing/stand-in for a male (Alice in Resident Evil) or they are objectified to the point where they're running around like sexualized trophies.

With any art there are no absolutes. I like females characters ranging from Lisbeth from 'Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' to I don't know..Princess Peach from Super Mario. Girly-girly. Just like how I like Ah-nold, and I also like Michael Cera.

It's the matter of damn good writing that counts. That being said, I'm down for a female lead. But like what someone said, I hope it's not a rethread of Luke's journey again. Perhaps, this female character can be already established, or she can be a rogue of some sort.

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So how official is this JJ abrams news?
Deadline and many of the other official Hollywood news places have confirmed it. So 100% it seems.

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So how official is this JJ abrams news?
The Wrap broke it, then Deadline confirmed it along with The Hollywood Reporter and Variety. Then the LA Times confirmed it with their sources.

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Not wanting a femae lead is not being sexist. It is a preference. I like female leads, and I like male leads but it depends on the material for me.
How would people on here react if he called black leads a fad and say that he doesn't want to see black leads in films? His statement was stupid because the vast majority of leads in films like this are still males so why complain like it is happening all of the time?

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If you're gonna have a female lead, you really have to take on the unique qualities of women that men lack, and use it properly. Many-a times, you'll have women who are either just window dressing/stand-in for a male (Alice in Resident Evil) or they are objectified to the point where they're running around like sexualized trophies.

With any art there are no absolutes. I like females characters ranging from Lisbeth from 'Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' to I don't know..Princess Peach from Super Mario. Girly-girly. Just like how I like Ah-nold, and I also like Michael Cera.

It's the matter of damn good writing that counts.
As usual with you and me I am in agreement.

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Of course, SOlidus! It's because we are aweosme. I tend to agree with Terry too, and I See Spidey..and sometimes..just sometimes VileOne on certain topics.

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More importantly... What are the chances of Jar Jar Binks coming back?

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slim to none. it's counter-intiutive to bring him back. NO ONE likes 'em besides a few core of fans. And you have to consider this increasingly smaller role per prequel; I'm sure that it wasn't planned that way by Lucas who probably wanted Jar Jar to be the prequel's Chewy/Droids.

Even I think Ewoks have some fans; they DO have some enduring qualities about them, hence why I don't hate them (though their inclusion in "Jedi" does not help the tone of the film. It's jarring when you got this dramatic lightsaber battle between a father and his son; a space battle; and then teddy bears with sling shots.)

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More importantly... What are the chances of Jar Jar Binks coming back?
I'm kinda hoping the Gungans were wiped out somewhere between episodes 3 and 6.

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More importantly... What are the chances of Jar Jar Binks coming back?
Episode 7 will show Jar Jar's daughter

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Of course, SOlidus! It's because we are aweosme. I tend to agree with Terry too, and I See Spidey..and sometimes..just sometimes VileOne on certain topics.
The Ville One often has great points. I like him being here despite our disagreements.

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While JJ may be considered a safe choice, I feel that it's also a good choice.

Going with someone who has proven critical & commercial success in the sci fi & fantasy genres was a great first step in proving that Disney is taking this franchise seriously.

In terms of the age or gender of the lead, that's not a big deal to me at all.....if the script & cast is solid, I say go for it!!! (I'm sure back in the day, if there were internet forums & such, folks would have complained about S. Weaver being the lead in Alien)

I think everyone involved understands how important this first film is, so even if there is a female lead, I'm sure it will be a strong enough character to carry the film....although most of the films have been pretty balanced when it comes to who is a "lead" & who isn't, so I'm sure there will be multiple leads.....a strong ensemble!

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How would people on here react if he called black leads a fad and say that he doesn't want to see black leads in films? His statement was stupid because the vast majority of leads in films like this are still males so why complain like it is happening all of the time?
Did he call female actors a fad? I missed it if he did.

I'm of the opinion that giving other races and girls every role coming and going whether they are right for it wont make up for the racism and sexism of the past. If an actor is suited for a role give it to them because they are suited for it, not because we want to make up for some guilt on our soul. Beyond that it is all up to personal preference. We want what we want and know what we like to see in film. Racism and sexism doesn't come into it on a conscious level for most so to get bent out of shape over it is a waste of your energy.

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The Ville One often has great points. I like him being here despite our disagreements.
I like him too. When he's right, he's right and I'll agree with him. But I think he's too cynical on certain topics, like JJ's loyalty, when it doesn't matter to the endgame: the movie itself. JJ's loyalty is a press problem that concern maybe PR agencies, publications or certain weird bloggers.

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Jar Jar definitely survived the 6 movies. Listen closely at the end of ROTJ, when it gets to the Coruscant celebration and you'll hear "Weeesa freeeee!!!" I think that was GL's way of blatantly giving his haters the finger, haha.

But yeah, I'd say -5% chance of seeing the return of Mr. Binks in VII.

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Jar Jar definitely survived the 6 movies. Listen closely at the end of ROTJ, when it gets to the Coruscant celebration and you'll hear "Weeesa freeeee!!!" I think that was GL's way of blatantly giving his haters the finger, haha.

But yeah, I'd say -5% chance of seeing the return of Mr. Binks in VII.
But wasn't he crushed by that giant statue and die slowly as people stomped on his ugly frog head?

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Jar Jar definitely survived the 6 movies. Listen closely at the end of ROTJ, when it gets to the Coruscant celebration and you'll hear "Weeesa freeeee!!!" I think that was GL's way of blatantly giving his haters the finger, haha.
that's a great way of messing with their heads, isnt it?

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Did he call female actors a fad? I missed it if he did.

I'm of the opinion that giving other races and girls every role coming and going whether they are right for it wont make up for the racism and sexism of the past. If an actor is suited for a role give it to them because they are suited for it, not because we want to make up for some guilt on our soul. Beyond that it is all up to personal preference. We want what we want and know what we like to see in film. Racism and sexism doesn't come into it on a conscious level for most so to get bent out of shape over it is a waste of your energy.
I didn't, I said I didn't want Abrams to play into the trend of women getting the lead role of blockbusters just because it is the thing to do right now. It can't be denied it is a trend over the past 5 years.

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Not wanting a femae lead is not being sexist. It is a preference. I like female leads, and I like male leads but it depends on the material for me.
Yes, it really all comes down to the material. I love the likes of the Alien/Prometheus movies and Tomb Raider having a lead female character. But they are certainly movies or anything in fiction that can be better with different genders.

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I'm of the opinion that giving other races and girls every role coming and going whether they are right for it wont make up for the racism and sexism of the past. If an actor is suited for a role give it to them because they are suited for it, not because we want to make up for some guilt on our soul. Beyond that it is all up to personal preference. We want what we want and no what we like to see in film. Racism and sexism doesn't come into it on a conscious level for most so to get bent out of shape over it is a waste of energy.
Well if you want a female to be "suited to the role" you first have to write a decent part that isn't 99% Love Interest and audition the best women for the role. It's highly unlikely that a big part will be non gender/age specific during the scripting process, so you have to consider that you might want a non white male lead long before casting starts. Unless an actress is Angelina they don't get movies rewritten for them. (Tom Cruise was originally being considered for Salt.)

It seems likely that this film might have a female protagonist that kicks butt if Moretz was up for the part, but that doesn't rule out 1 or more other male protagonists that are just as important (or more), than she is. See: Luke/Han/Leia.

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