Star Trek Into Darkness - Part 4 - Page 6

Visceral · 02-06-2013, 06:26 PM

I'm jumping on this benedict cumberbunch bandwagon, the guy is straight charisma.

DKDetective · 02-06-2013, 08:17 PM

Yeah, Cumberbatch is an excellent actor. Sadly, I'm afraid he is going to be wasted in this movie doing a Khan retread (whether he is Khan, Mitchell, April or just plain John Harrison). The way he says "I'm better" and "Everything" in the Super Bowl spot, with calm arrogance, charisma, and fire in the eyes, screams a Khan-like character.

Sawyer · 02-06-2013, 08:30 PM

I don't see any Montalban in his performance at all, but okay...

DKDetective · 02-06-2013, 08:43 PM

Well, not Montalban per se. It's not like he is doing what Karl Urban did in terms of copying accent, mannerisms or cadence. More so, the character's dialogue and the characterization - the superiority complex and the way he stares at Kirk.

Octoberist · 02-06-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DKDetective

Yeah, Cumberbatch is an excellent actor. Sadly, I'm afraid he is going to be wasted in this movie doing a Khan retread (whether he is Khan, Mitchell, April or just plain John Harrison). The way he says "I'm better" and "Everything" in the Super Bowl spot, with calm arrogance, charisma, and fire in the eyes, screams a Khan-like character.

He's Khan-like in power and arrogance but thats it. Benedict plays it cold and stoic , vs the exotic and charismatic Ricardo.

DKDetective · 02-06-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Octoberist

He's Khan-like in power and arrogance but thats it. Benedict plays it cold and stoic , vs the exotic and charismatic Ricardo.

I agree he is a bit colder to an extent, but there is a certain charismatic intensity going on. Like in the shot of Cumberbatch in the Captain's chair:

Also, personally, I think Cumberbatch's appearance gives him a slightly exotic look as well. His high, strong cheekbones and wideset eyes make for a very unique look.

Octoberist · 02-06-2013, 09:08 PM

When I say exotic with Ricardo, I mean strangely sexual!! Look at them pecs and accent! He's very showy whereas Benedict's look is understated.

So far Benedict looks like very direct. Meanwhile Ricardo will befriend you, earn his trust and he'll stab you in the back!

DKDetective · 02-06-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Octoberist

When I say exotic with Ricardo, I mean strangely sexual!! Look at them pecs and accent! He's very showy whereas Benedict's look is understated.

So far Benedict looks like very direct. Meanwhile Ricardo will befriend you, earn his trust and he'll stab you in the back!

I'll definitely give you the exotic sexuality/sensuality. However, interviews so far suggest that Benedict's character character may be far less direct than you think. There are references to him employing psychological warfare and causing division among the crew - sounds a bit like Space Seed Khan in my opinion in regards to how he manipulated McGivers. Also, the way he appears to use the British parents also suggests a certain subversiveness.

Deathlok · 02-07-2013, 04:18 AM

You know, I'm quite stoked for this film.

I may have to take a day off of work so that I can slink off to the the IMAX cinema in London to see this baby properly.

TheIrishAvenger · 02-07-2013, 12:32 PM

redhawk23 · 02-07-2013, 01:11 PM

New pics

Destructus86 · 02-07-2013, 01:38 PM

wow..Uhura's red outfit is HOT.

Aside from that...I'm now more sure then ever we won't get Khan. This IS our Khan film. Bringing him into the next movie would be too similiar.

Doc Ock · 02-07-2013, 01:43 PM

Kirk & Kahn?

Oh boy...

Doctor Jones · 02-07-2013, 01:55 PM

Zoe Saldana in that red suit... whoa.

Idun · 02-08-2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeRadical

[Trekmode] the NX was just an Akira class starship turned upside down [\Trekmode]

Sorry but I had a beverage moment there.

If I had a penny for every time I've seen anyone writing this where the NX-class has come up to discussion, I'd be a very rich person.

dodgers2213 · 02-08-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by redhawk23

New pics

747 · 02-08-2013, 11:53 AM

A villain should never again in a film be captured and led away by troops.

dodgers2213 · 02-08-2013, 12:19 PM

or taunt his captor from behind glass and manipulate from within

ThePowerCosmic · 02-08-2013, 05:21 PM

Soooo barely anyone's commenting on the Khan thing... okay, then. Star Trek fans, my ass.

Compi716 · 02-08-2013, 05:33 PM

I'm not sure what else there is to say. It doesn't make sense with the Botany Bay history (which would have been launched into space BEFORE the new timeline was established). If he is Khan, he can't possibly have the same motivation for his vengeance as the original. The theory I still like most is that Benedict is NOT Khan, but another genetically altered superhuman.

DaddlerTheDalek · 02-08-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by redhawk23

Uhura = Hot!

ahem...

I don't think that the Villain is Khan.

Pink Ranger · 02-08-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Compi716

I'm not sure what else there is to say. It doesn't make sense with the Botany Bay history (which would have been launched into space BEFORE the new timeline was established). If he is Khan, he can't possibly have the same motivation for his vengeance as the original. The theory I still like most is that Benedict is NOT Khan, but another genetically altered superhuman.

I don't think it is Khan, but A) it's possible the Botany Bay was discovered and reactivated much earlier in the new timeline, not necessarily by the Federation, which allowed Khan enough time to slay his rescuers and cleverly infiltrate contemporary Earth and work his plan in the background, and B) Khan will not necessarily be motivated by vengeance, but by the need to once again build an empire, which is the first time the audience will get to see this character doing what he was designed to do.

Silvermoon · 02-08-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

Soooo barely anyone's commenting on the Khan thing... okay, then. Star Trek fans, my ass.

From what I've seen the ONLY place that indicates he's Khan is on that ew web page, the article itself merely comments that there has been long running speculation that he's Khan and it's an 'unconfirmed rumor'. So whoever did the webpage on ew's site decided to take it and run with it actually calling him Khan.

wobbly · 02-08-2013, 07:50 PM

Since they have mostly gone for reasonable/passable lookalikes in the recasting I can't see how Cumberbatch will be Khan.

He looks nothing like Montalban at all (he looks more like Khan's blonde 2nd in command from WOK).

Best guess is he is from the federation and was genetically altered based on material secretly recovered from the Botany Bay, which in this timeline was found about a decade or more before it was in TOS, with Khan and his crew still held on ice while this film occurs.

ThePhantasm · 02-08-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

Soooo barely anyone's commenting on the Khan thing... okay, then. Star Trek fans, my ass.

I'm not yet convinced that he is Khan. I'm really hoping he isn't, because I don't want this franchise to basically be the old franchise on repeat...

02-06-2013, 06:26 PM	#126
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02-06-2013, 08:17 PM	#127
DKDetective "He'll be a god to them." Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,106	Re: Star Trek Into Darkness - Part 4 Yeah, Cumberbatch is an excellent actor. Sadly, I'm afraid he is going to be wasted in this movie doing a Khan retread (whether he is Khan, Mitchell, April or just plain John Harrison). The way he says "I'm better" and "Everything" in the Super Bowl spot, with calm arrogance, charisma, and fire in the eyes, screams a Khan-like character. Last edited by DKDetective; 02-06-2013 at 08:37 PM.

02-06-2013, 08:30 PM	#128
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02-06-2013, 08:43 PM	#129
DKDetective "He'll be a god to them." Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,106	Re: Star Trek Into Darkness - Part 4 Well, not Montalban per se. It's not like he is doing what Karl Urban did in terms of copying accent, mannerisms or cadence. More so, the character's dialogue and the characterization - the superiority complex and the way he stares at Kirk.

02-06-2013, 09:08 PM	#132
Octoberist point blank Join Date: May 2005 Location: California Posts: 31,536	Re: Star Trek Into Darkness - Part 4 When I say exotic with Ricardo, I mean strangely sexual!! Look at them pecs and accent! He's very showy whereas Benedict's look is understated. So far Benedict looks like very direct. Meanwhile Ricardo will befriend you, earn his trust and he'll stab you in the back!

02-07-2013, 04:18 AM	#134
Deathlok Scrawny gaunt & anorexic? Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 1,325	Re: Star Trek Into Darkness - Part 4 You know, I'm quite stoked for this film. I may have to take a day off of work so that I can slink off to the the IMAX cinema in London to see this baby properly. __________________ Si hoc legere potes nimium eruditionis habes For crying out loud, after nine months of intermittent, random and unrelated PC crashes. Changing the RAM got rid of the last of the crashes! It was a good excuse to go to 32Gb... Got 64Gb now!

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02-07-2013, 01:11 PM	#136
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Destructus86 Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,747	Re: Star Trek Into Darkness - Part 4 wow..Uhura's red outfit is HOT. Aside from that...I'm now more sure then ever we won't get Khan. This IS our Khan film. Bringing him into the next movie would be too similiar. __________________ Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

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wobbly Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 6,483	Re: Star Trek Into Darkness - Part 4 Since they have mostly gone for reasonable/passable lookalikes in the recasting I can't see how Cumberbatch will be Khan. He looks nothing like Montalban at all (he looks more like Khan's blonde 2nd in command from WOK). Best guess is he is from the federation and was genetically altered based on material secretly recovered from the Botany Bay, which in this timeline was found about a decade or more before it was in TOS, with Khan and his crew still held on ice while this film occurs. __________________ To see some gratuitous Wobbly Bits just hit the link :)

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