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Old 02-02-2013, 08:52 AM   #601
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I think DOFP can really be well balanced. The problem with the original trilogy is that it was too Wolverine-heavy. And while I found X2 to be well balanced as well, if you take out the heavy arc for Wolverine, it would have been even more balanced with the other characters. That's the pro for DOFP as even if Wolverine does show up, I highly doubt the film will be all about him.

And, let's not forget that First Class even made some mistakes...the useless character of Darwin comes to mind.
He wasnt useless,he served the purpose of a emotional impact device,Like Coulsen in TA

And it is possible to have him back aswell,his powers are like that

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Everyone I've talked to IRL about the film liked ASM alot more than Raimi's films as well.
For the longest I believed it was only my brother in the people that I knew that even liked TAS-M until I was talking to a friend of mine about a month ago that mentioned he liked it...then me and another friend of mine had this huge talk of Spider-Man 1 + 2 and TAS-M, lol.

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The fan ratings at RT if I remember correctly shows too that it's a very liked film, even though critics are more 50/50 about it.
The audience score is tragic when TAS-M gets 81% where the critics score is lower, but yet 81% is the same as Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 1 is 65% but yet the critics score for both of Raimi's films is way higher than TAS-M's.

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He wasnt useless,he served the purpose of a emotional impact device,Like Coulsen in TA

And it is possible to have him back aswell,his powers are like that
Lol, what? Are you comparing to a guy that carried NO emotional impact whatsoever to Agent Coulson who was adored by fans ever since Iron Man?

Give me what you're smoking, because it must be freaking awesome.

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The subject probably won't come up in the movie itself but how does The Rhino go to the bathroom if the suit is bonded to his skin?

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The audience score is tragic when TAS-M gets 81% where the critics score is lower, but yet 81% is the same as Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 1 is 65% but yet the critics score for both of Raimi's films is way higher than TAS-M's.


So which opinion do you think holds more weight, the audience or the critic? Genuine question.

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The audience score is tragic when TAS-M gets 81% where the critics score is lower, but yet 81% is the same as Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 1 is 65% but yet the critics score for both of Raimi's films is way higher than TAS-M's.
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He wasnt useless,he served the purpose of a emotional impact device,Like Coulsen in TA

Coulson was an established character that people loved. Darwin was created so he could be killed off. He was useless because there was no connection to the character. His death was cheap.


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I don't see people calling for that to happen anytime soon. lol

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The critics gave Dredd an average score but the audience loved it (well, the few that went to see it).

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I was only expecting to see Electro in this movie. Nice to see they are still surprising us with more villians.

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So which opinion do you think holds more weight, the audience or the critic? Genuine question.
You didn't ask me this question but I will answer if I can. The critics opinion obviously matter more than the audience reaction. I don't give a dump what other people think. But truly, only your own opinion matters. If you aren't sure of a movie, go with what the critics are saying...not the audience. The general audience is filled with idiots. People go out in droves to see crap like Transformers. 76% of people on RT liked Revenge of the Fallen. Hell, Transformers 1 has a better rating from the audience than ASM or Spider-Man 2.

On a side note, it doesn't matter on here what anyone's friends and family think. That is always the last attempt for people trying to rationalize something on here. I am sure one person's family on here loved the hell outta that Wayans ghost movie. Personal experiences don't really mean anything when trying to compare stuff. I am sure a theater full of drunks would love that Wayans ghost movie than a theater full of masters students.

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I also go with the critics view rather than the audience but I tend to read a lot of the critics review and if a lot of them are saying stuff I disagree I tend to ignore the review. For instance a lot of critics review of ASM opened with 'why does this movie exist', if I read that I pretty much ignored the review because they aren't being objective. I also have a small selection of reviewers I trust like Ebert for instance.

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So which opinion do you think holds more weight, the audience or the critic? Genuine question.
I find that the film critic holds more weight on what makes a good or great film, because let's be honest, there are just as many people who can like any ol' CBM that would be just fine in watching another Bayformers film and saying they enjoy it, although there are some exceptions to it. I don't know if it would make any difference, but when a critic lashes at TAS-M for just re-doing the origin, then that would definitely hurt the rating while the regular viewer would look over that complaint(but still, imo, there are so many other reasons why TAS-M isn't a good film). Or the run of the mill critic who would blast TDKR for not using the Joker or not having a villain to "match" Joker

I find myself, while not caring about 90% of critics(there are a few that I don't mind listening to), I end up having the same opinions as most, especially with CBMs(except for Watchmen, but in that case, I truly believed, critic or regular viewer, the person had to know about the world of Watchmen which is like the Supernatural to Spider-Man's Homeland).

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I'd say it's about even, both are important.

Say, if critics and most people hate the movie, it most likely does suck.

With films like TASM, it's a little more grey.

I personally loved TASM and thought it was the best live action interpretation of the character.

Not a slam at Tobey or Raimi, loved the previous trilogy, but with something to compare it to, I feel TASM is superior. I know there's people that feel the same about Raimi's too.

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While I prefer Raimi's version, I can still say that I have never seen the version of Spider-Man that I would really, really want to see in a CBM.

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Rhino needs to be like the Hulk and fast. I want him to be bad ass. Not Dumb, just a hot head.

How he was in 94 spiderman the animated series.

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He was pretty dumb in the '94 series though.

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He was pretty dumb in the '94 series though.
No. he was pretty dumb in the spectacular spiderman series.

Watch the alien costume part 1 on youtube spiderman tas

That's how I want him. he was Badass dumb, In Spectacular spiderman he was just pathetic dumb. I don't want that because he won't be taken seriously like a threat, he would be a joke.

badass dumb vs pathetic dumb Bad ass dumb wins!!!!!

You have to differentiate your dumbs!!!!

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No. he was pretty dumb in the spectacular spiderman series.

Watch the alien costume part 1 on youtube spiderman tas

That's how I want him. he was Badass dumb, In Spectacular spiderman he was just pathetic dumb. I don't want that because he won't be taken seriously like a threat, he would be a joke.

badass dumb vs pathetic dumb Bad ass dumb wins!!!!!

You have to differentiate your dumbs!!!!
you lost me dude...
he wasn´t dumb on the contrary he was pretty smart

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he wasn´t dumb on the contrary he was pretty smart
Huh? You lose me dude, he was dumb now he is smart!

HUH? just watch the youtube video and that's how I want Rhino.

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Huh? You lose me dude, he was dumb now he is smart!

HUH? just watch the youtube video and that's how I want Rhino.
sorry i thought you meant spiderman for some reason ,lol sorry
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seriously didn´t know what happened again

but he could be smarter

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A pathetically dumb Rhino doesn't go to the Bugle, looking for Peter Parker, the person who took all the pictures of Spider-Man. Or uses the same trick that Spidey used on Shocker, to take him down. He wasn't a brain surgeon, he wasn't pathetically dumb either. And Rhino wasn't a threat in Spectacular? He was almost pretty much Juggernaut.

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No. he was pretty dumb in the spectacular spiderman series.

Watch the alien costume part 1 on youtube spiderman tas

That's how I want him. he was Badass dumb, In Spectacular spiderman he was just pathetic dumb. I don't want that because he won't be taken seriously like a threat, he would be a joke.

badass dumb vs pathetic dumb Bad ass dumb wins!!!!!

You have to differentiate your dumbs!!!!
Badass dumb compared to..."goes to Daily Bugle to find the man who takes photos of Spider-Man" dumb?

Yah...you lost me on your own definition of dumb, or even the way you separate "good dumb" to "bad dumb".

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How about we say The Rhino in TSSM could formulate an idea and process thoughts and leave it at that?

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Tbf he did get defeated by dehydration.

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he wasn´t dumb on the contrary he was pretty smart
In SSM, Rhino was as thick as cheese.

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