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Old 02-08-2013, 11:58 AM   #1
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Default If JL is shelved, what should WB's plan be? World's Finest?

I personally want Justice League to be cancelled to make way for films like World's Finest, a MOS sequel, Batman reboot, Flash solo film, and Wonder Woman solo film. What would you guys want? Do you want the JL film first then the solo films?

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Old 02-08-2013, 12:05 PM   #2
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I want solo films before the JL movie and I want Batman to be the next solo movie after Superman's. Batman being the Big Two of the DC universe, it would feel really weird if Superman got a solo film and then Batman would be one of the last JL members to get a solo film before JL comes out.

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Old 02-08-2013, 12:22 PM   #3
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Scrapping the Justice League movie in favor of a World’s Finest movie seems like the mother of all no-brainers. It’d set the DC Universe tone and establish the dynamic between the two most important cogs in the machine in Batman & Superman (No offense to WW fans). It seems to me that a World’s Finest movie could possibly make more money and be even better received than a Justice League movie, right out of the gate.

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Absolutely. Scrap Justice League and just do a Worlds Finest.

They may not make a Wonder Woman movie for another decade for all we know, but im sure a Flash movie will happen before the decade closes. I can care less about seeing Aquaman or Martian Manhunter outside of a Justice League movie (and with that said, id only like to see them in a JL sequel)..so forget them on their own. Green Lantern? Who cares at this point.

This could be a sign for WB, that Justice League is either not meant to be. Or it's not meant to be until all the Avengers movies are complete. So just do a Worlds Finest and concentrate on the MOS trilogy, rebooting Batman and possibly a Flash movie that may or may not be connected to a future team-up.

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Obviously WB has no idea what to do with Justice League. The only characters they have ever had any idea of what to do with have always been Batman and Superman. It should be obvious that there should be a World's Finest movie before Justice League.

Hell they could basically do what the animated series did.

in Superman the animated series, they introduced Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman, they could do something similar with the Superman movies, introducing lesser known heroes.
They then went on to do a animated World's Finest film, and THEN came out with a Justice League series.

WB should follow the animated series' lead.
Introduce lesser known characters in MOS or MOS2, then do World's Finest, (possibly some solo films on WW (Nicolas Winding Refn wants to do WW, why dont they just hire him already, I don't understand) and Flash) then Justice League.

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Just do World's Finest and solo films for WW and Flash.

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Old 02-08-2013, 01:09 PM   #7
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Just do World's Finest and solo films for WW and Flash.
Yeah this is the best way to go. I dont see WW happening for a long while though.

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Old 02-08-2013, 01:22 PM   #8
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Superman, Batman Reboot, Wonder Woman and Flash solo films, followed by a Justice League film down the road. This was never going to work the way they're doing it.

For the record, I don't want a world's finest film at all. Part of the hook of Justice League is seeing Superman and Batman on screen together for the first time. Why ruin that for all time with a two man team up? Once you ring that bell, you can't unring it. I'd rather see it happen in a big event JLA film.


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Old 02-08-2013, 01:38 PM   #10
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I'd kind of like to see Justice League done as a two-parter. Part one would be Wold's Finest, finishing with a cameo from Wonder Woman and the next big threat (similar to the end of Batman Begins with the Joker card). It then picks up right after when they recruit Flash, GL and MM (or whoever is included). We don't need a Justice League trilogy, just the story of how they got there.

So in short, yes I agree that World's Finest should come first.

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World's Finest could establish a shared universe, introduce the reboot Batman and give the audience a sample taste of what a full on JL movie would be like. Two good or great solo films for WW and Flash will create much more hype for a JL film along with WF. A Batman reboot thrown in there would be good, too.

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They should definitely do a World's Finest movie but only after a sequel to MOS and a Batman reboot. I have this idea of how they should tackle this DC Universe.

2015 or 2016

JLA - kind of like a First Class situation, have the original group of Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Martian Manhunters take on the threat of Starro.

2016 or 2017

Batman Reboot - A year 2 story focusing on Batman taking on the Riddler
Man of Steel 2 - Brainiac as the villain and Lex Luthor introduced

2017 or 2018

Worlds Finest or Trinity - the end would have them meet the JLA. The villains would be Lex, the Joker and maybe have someone like Croc or Bizarro involved for the physical stuff. Cameo from Aquaman kind of in the same way he made a cameo in the Matt Wagner's Trinity book.

Brave and the Bold - A Green Lantern & Flash team up film and have an Aquaman cameo (maybe an extended one in the final battle). Not sure who the villains would be but I'd have it be a great threat so that Aquaman could get involved.

2018 or 2019

JLA 2 with Superman and Batman joining the team, villains been Darkseid and his minions on Apokolips

2021 or 2022

JLA 3 - villains would have to be the Legion of Doom and have it be done in the same way as Alex Ross and Jim Krueger's Justice.

Of course this would be a big ask as you'd have to film these movies pretty quickly, but they did it with Avengers quickly after Cap and Thor. You could even put two year gaps in between them all but I think this would be a great way to tackle it.

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Thing is, WB won't do it. It's either Justice League or no Justice League at all. Im sure that's the mentality.

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World's Finest should lead to Justice League. that's the best way to go.

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Old 02-08-2013, 01:46 PM   #15
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I think that instead of it being a resurrected plan like in Avengers, I think that the heroes should all come together when a threat comes to Earth.

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They should definitely do a World's Finest movie but only after a sequel to MOS and a Batman reboot. I have this idea of how they should tackle this DC Universe.

2015 or 2016
JLA - kind of like a First Class situation, have the original group of Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Martian Manhunters take on the threat of Starro.

2016 or 2017

Batman Reboot - A year 2 story focusing on Batman taking on the Riddler
Man of Steel 2 - Brainiac as the villain and Lex Luthor introduced

2017 or 2018

Worlds Finest or Trinity - the end would have them meet the JLA. The villains would be Lex, the Joker and maybe have someone like Croc or Bane involved for the physical stuff. Cameo from Aquaman kind of in the same way he made a cameo in the Matt Wagner's Trinity book.

Brave and the Bold - A Green Lantern & Flash team up film and have an Aquaman cameo (maybe an extended one in the final battle). Not sure who the villains would be but I'd have it be a great threat so that Aquanan could get involved.


2018 or 2019

JLA 2 with Superman and Batman joining the team, villains been Darkseid and his minions on Apokolips

2021 or 2022

JLA 3 - villains would have to be the Legion of Doom and have it be done in the same way as Alex Ross and Jim Krueger's Justice.

Of course this would be a big ask as you'd have to film these movies pretty quickly, but they did it with Avengers quickly after Cap and Thor. You could even put two year gaps in between them all but I think this would be a great way to tackle it.
Cool, but Justice League wont sell without Batman and Superman on the team. I agree with ur Bat reboot and MOS 2 details..i have the same line of thinking. WF? Sure. But Green Lantern and Flash teaming up wouldn't be necessary, just have them in the JL movies. And i personally dont want to see Justice League go to 3 films. 2 is enough i think.

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Cool, but Justice League wont sell without Batman and Superman on the team. I agree with ur Bat reboot and MOS 2 details..i have the same line of thinking. WF? Sure. But Green Lantern and Flash teaming up wouldn't be necessary, just have them in the JL movies. And i personally dont want to see Justice League go to 3 films. 2 is enough i think.
I think they could still sell it, I'm not saying it would smash the BO but it could be seen as an investment kind of like Batman Begins was for the Batman franchise. If its good it could make 500-600 million worldwide.

I think Brave & the Bold would be great personally sandwiched in between the JL movies plus it would keep GL and the Flash in the publics conscience.

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I still think the best idea is to have TDK and MoS in the same universe, regardless if the JLA movie kicks off a new universe.

I think the public already sees MoS and TDK as being 'together', what with the Nolan involvement, similar tone, etc. I'm sure people will still think this even after watching MoS. The JL trailer with a new Batman, and the audience's realization that they've been watching a different universe in MoS might create confusion/dissapointment that Cavill and Bale aren't going to be meeting.

option 1:

TDK Trilogy
MoS

JLA (Bale and Cavill team up to recruit the league, Ocean's Eleven style, where WW, Flash, etc are introduced for the first time)

Then WW, Flash, GL, Batman (Blakeman), MoS sequel. (having the JLA movie before some of the solo movies might help boost their box office numbers, as Audience's would have already seen these characters in JLA)

option 2:

TDK Trilogy
MoS
WW
Flash
GL (optional)
JLA

Option 3:
TDK Trilogy and MoS bring an end to the Nolan era.
2016 JL kicks off a new shared universe with a different traditional JLA tone.

Option 4
MoS kicks off a new shared universe (with some indication that it's separate from the TDK universe)
WW
Flash
GL (optional)
Batman reboot (leave it to last to give some time between this and the Nolanverse)
JLA

Option 5 (their existing plan)
MoS kicks off a new shared universe (with some indication that it's separate from the TDK universe, hopefully)
JLA
Other Solo movies

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I personally like options 1, 2, and 3 the most.


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I think there a light in the horizon. We are freed from the dollar-thirsty project called Justice League.
I don't think Warner Brothers are smart enough to come up with the idea of World's Finest as a replacement.

Solo films with Hawkman, Green Arrow, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and The Flash is the best route to go. And I sincerely believe that Flash would need to be the first. He's the one who will attract an audience while still not being weight down by a backstory in ancient times. He should be followed by Green Arrow, who recently became a "cool" character after the TV show.

After these two, the world is ready for more heavy Mythology stuff, like Hawkie, Wondy and Aqua (in that order?).

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That's what should happen, but I doubt it will unfortunately.....

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Flash really has the potential to be DC's Iron Man in the movies. I would say his movies have even more potential than WW's.

Bring on that great Flash movie already, WB.

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Flash really has the potential to be DC's Iron Man in the movies. I would say his movies have even more potential than WW's.

Bring on that great Flash movie already, WB.
I know a lot of people don't want to see a DCU akin to what Marvel did, and want WB to do their own thing, but I think Flash could greatly benefit from coming after a Hit Superman film/ Batman reboot, the same way Thor benefited from being in the same universe as the hit Iron Man franchise.

If you say "Flash is going to be in a team-up movie with Superman and Batman in a few years", and make that a public matter, people who might not have been interested in the Flash before will turn up, and if the movie's great? They'll fall for the character.

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I'd actually prefer a WF movie to a JLA film. I'm really only interested in Superman and Batman anyway, and, to a lesser extent, Wonder Woman. Plus, WF ought to be a little cheaper to make and fewer characters will allow for more development of their personalities and the plot.

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Definitely what I think they should go for:



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After MOS, I want the films done this way:

year one - The Flash (I don't have it as 2014 or 2015, but just a "random year"). It's best to start out slow with just one hero. I haven't decided what villain(s) yet. It should come out during the spring.

year two - Green Arrow (May), Hawkman (Jul/Aug)
Carter Hall, reincarnation, ancient Egypt
MOS sequel can come the same year, why not Nov/Dec. It's best to have the most popular guy last

year three - The Flash 2 and Wonder Woman, not sure who should come first, profit-wise, a new character or a sequel to a success?

year four - Green Arrow 2, Aquaman, Ocean Master for the latter
Batman reboot to close the year

year five - Wonder Woman 2, Hawkman 2
Katar Hol/Thanagar
MOS 3

year six - Aquaman 2 (Black Manta), The Flash 3

year seven - Time to give Green Lantern another chance, People may have forgotten the old film, then we should have Batman 2

year eight - Wonder Woman 3, Green Arrow 3 and then World's Finest

year nine - Green Lantern 2, Hawkman 3, then Trinity

year ten - Aquaman 3, Justice League

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