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Old 02-09-2013, 05:15 AM   #651
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most people would love an older batman anyways lol

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Old 02-09-2013, 05:26 AM   #652
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Okay. I give up! Let's talk about something else! Let's talk about what they are going to show in MOS that will show a shared DC universe!
A mention of Gotham? Wayne Corp? Coast City?

Let the speculations begin!

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None of those things. IT was neither written nor shot as the first instalment of a shared film continuity.

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Really?! Such a waste! I'm starting to think most Warner execs are p***ies!

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you and everyone else are gonna have to come to realization that Justice League will never be as big as avengers without christian bale as batman to go from a popular trilogy and a 2 billion dollar+ nolan trilogy as batman and jump into jl as batman would be huge and is something i am sure the GA wants aswell

no one especially the general audience wants to be introduced to a rebooted batman at this point in time when we just went through a 6 year trilogy
I don't give a flying **** if JL is as big as Avengers.

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No, I'm with JMC. He shouldn't come back and he isn't. It really is that simple.
I understand people are going to continue discussing it and we can't sit here and try to police that, but I just don't see the point in it.
I just want the discussion to move on from Nolan. I've heard nothing but *****ing from people for 7 years that Nolan's Batman removed some of the more super natural elements from the mythology, now we've got the chance for those elements to be incorporated into a brand new version of the character and all people want to do is drag Bale back into the cowl again simply because Nolan's series was so successful. Let's start talking about a new Bruce Wayne, one that is meant to fit into a shared universe.

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Old 02-09-2013, 06:51 AM   #657
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^if you can find an actor as good as bale i'd welcome it

haven't seen one suggestion yet thats as good of an actor

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All do respect to Bale, but his Bruce Wayne wasn't the be all and end all with the character.

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I'd like someone like Gabriel Macht in the role of Bruce Wayne. He seems to be virtually playing him on Suits. I could definitely see him capturing the world's greatest detective aspect, which was sadly missing from Bale's portrayal.

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while his batman has detractors i loved his bruce wayne he was funny,charismatic,ladies man and very relatable

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I'd like someone like Gabriel Macht in the role of Bruce Wayne. He seems to be virtually playing him on Suits. I could definitely see him capturing the world's greatest detective aspect, which was sadly missing from Bale's portrayal.
i like macht even tho the spirit tainted him a bit

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i like macht even tho the spirit tainted him a bit
But it's the film, not Macht himself that is at fault. If Batman Begins had been badly made and not well received, although Bale could be good in the role, that could've tainted him.

I think Macht could seem closer to the classic comic (and the animated) Bruce Wayne and Batman.

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I just want the discussion to move on from Nolan. I've heard nothing but *****ing from people for 7 years that Nolan's Batman removed some of the more super natural elements from the mythology, now we've got the chance for those elements to be incorporated into a brand new version of the character and all people want to do is drag Bale back into the cowl again simply because Nolan's series was so successful. Let's start talking about a new Bruce Wayne, one that is meant to fit into a shared universe.
Like HFMF said, better do the same for Superman.

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Old 02-09-2013, 07:39 AM   #664
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^yup lets reboot it again

since you know mos was made same as nolan bat films not apart of a shared universe

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Yes, I agree. Leave MoS as it's own thing.

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Old 02-09-2013, 10:11 AM   #666
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I just want the discussion to move on from Nolan. I've heard nothing but *****ing from people for 7 years that Nolan's Batman removed some of the more super natural elements from the mythology, now we've got the chance for those elements to be incorporated into a brand new version of the character and all people want to do is drag Bale back into the cowl again simply because Nolan's series was so successful. Let's start talking about a new Bruce Wayne, one that is meant to fit into a shared universe.
This is a really good point. I have also heard a lot of complaining from 2005 to 2012 about Nolan's realism but it seems that most of those same people did a 180 turn and now all want Nolan's Batman in JL despite the realism they complained about still being there and to a much greater extent now that a rookie cop is Batman lol.

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Starting over with a new Superman that isn't Cavill is an awful idea and with the success of MOS (yes it will happen) it would be a horrible move.

You cant make the argument that Nolans Batman was never meant to exist in a shared universe, therefore he shouldnt be in this. Because the same is happening with Cavill, and it's pretty clear they're planning on using him.

Find me an actor who is good enough for all 3 of Bruce Wayne's identities and ill be the first one waiting in line for the reboot. This includes Justice League. But i dont trust WB right now. If they offered Affleck the role, that means they dont give a damn. And secondly it means they dont care if they link JL-Batman to the future solo-Bat movies or not.

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I just want the discussion to move on from Nolan. I've heard nothing but *****ing from people for 7 years that Nolan's Batman removed some of the more super njatural elements from the mythology, now we've got the chance for those elements to be incorporated into a brand new version of the character and all people want to do is drag Bale back into the cowl again simply because Nolan's series was so successful. Let's start talking about a new Bruce Wayne, one that is meant to fit into a shared universe.
Yeah i agree. As much as i liked 'that' batman, he wouldnt fit in with the JL. He'll need to be more like the animated batman version.

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This is a really good point. I have also heard a lot of complaining from 2005 to 2012 about Nolan's realism but it seems that most of those same people did a 180 turn and now all want Nolan's Batman in JL despite the realism they complained about still being there and to a much greater extent now that a rookie cop is Batman lol.
Part of the attraction of the idea is running with the escalation theme, and peoples reactions as their mundane world begins to tilt towards the extraordinary. A concept they've mentioned exploring with MoS, as a matter of fact.

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Yeah i agree. As much as i liked 'that' batman, he wouldnt fit in with the JL. He'll need to be more like the animated batman version.
dont see how he would'nt i can easily see bale's batman fitting well with henry's man of steel he would'nt be out of place because man of steel is'nt as comic booky as say green lantern film was it is grounded in realism like the dark knight trilogy

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JGL is the last person I want returning from TDK trilogy. Catwoman yes. Comissioner Gordon yes. Alfred yes. Scarecrow yes.

Blake? A definite no.

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dont see how he would'nt i can easily see bale's batman fitting well with henry's man of steel he would'nt be out of place because man of steel is'nt as comic booky as say green lantern film was it is grounded in realism like the dark knight trilogy
He'd fit in fine, as long as he sticks to doing what Batman does. Lots of forward thinking and tactical planning, sneaking around all lone wolf-style, gadgets out the wazoo.

I get the feeling some of the fanbase isn't going to be happy until he's punching out Darkseid.

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The nolanverse isn't that real. A microwave emitter that's evaporates water supply but leaves humans intact, and not completely dehydrated? That's real? That batman could fit into a mos world. Infact the mos universe, from what little we've seen, looks more realistic than the tdk universe. The alien element included.

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The problem is wht use wld Bales batman be to the justice league?He lacks all the assets that make Batman of use to a JL movie

1.Intelligence-Worlds greatest Detective-im talking sherlock level here,Worlds greatest strategist,etc.Bruce in the comics is the worlds greatest detective with a sherlockian genius mind.That mind makes him of immense value to the JL despite the fact he has no powers.Nolans Batman does not have that mind.We know this we ve watched 3 movies with him.no where did he display a Sherlock level deductive ability.He was just decent enough

2.Peak Human abilities-Basically Captain america level abilities and some seriouss Kungfu.This extreme level of physicalty is needed for Batman to survive JL encounters regularly.In Year one we saw a glimpse of this physicality when he punched a cop through a brick wall.Sadly Nolans Bat didnt really display anything close to this.In fact Bane was more impressive pysically



Without this qualities idea of Batman-a man with no powers- on the Justice league becomes stupid.Its this qualities that let him hang around with the gods of Dc and even get respect as a god of dc.

A couple of you here suggested a nick fury role for Bruce-I find that incredibly stupid.


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Starting over with a new Superman that isn't Cavill is an awful idea and with the success of MOS (yes it will happen) it would be a horrible move.
Perhaps we should start separating 'business' arguments ("success of MOS") from 'artistic/quality' arguments ("it would be a horrible movie")

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