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Old 08-08-2008, 11:06 AM   #1
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TBLISI, Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia's president said Friday that his country is under attack by Russian tanks and warplanes, and he accused Russia of targeting civilians as tensions over the breakaway Georgian region of South Ossetia appeared to boil over into full-blown conflict.

"All day today, they've been bombing Georgia from numerous warplanes and specifically targeting (the) civilian population, and we have scores of wounded and dead among (the) civilian population all around the country," President Mikhail Saakashvili told CNN in an exclusive interview.


"This is the worst nightmare one can encounter," he said.


Asked whether Georgia and Russia were now at war, he said, "My country is in self-defense against Russian aggression. Russian troops invaded Georgia." Watch the interview with Saakashvili

About 150 Russian armored vehicles have entered South Ossetia, Saakashvili said, and Georgian forces had shot down two Russian aircraft. Watch the Russian tanks moving into the area

Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov meanwhile said Moscow had received reports that villages in South Ossetia were being ethnically cleansed, according to Reuters.com.


"We are receiving reports that a police of ethnic cleansing was being conducted in villages in South Ossetia, the number of refugees is climbing, the panic is growing, people are trying to save their lives," he was reported saying.


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, quoted by the Russian news agency Interfax, said Russians had died because of Georgia's operations.


Russia "will not allow the deaths of our compatriots to go unpunished" and "those guilty will receive due punishment," he said. "My duty as Russian president is to safeguard the lives and dignity of Russian citizens, wherever they are. This is what is behind the logic of the steps we are undertaking now."



South Ossetia declared independence from Georgia in the early 1990s, but it was not internationally recognized. Many ethnic Ossetians feel close to Russia and have Russian passports and use its currency. iReport.com: Are you there, share your photos, videos

Russia's Defense Ministry said it sent "reinforcements" to South Ossetia to help the Russian peacekeepers already stationed there.


Earlier Friday, Russian military aircraft dropped two bombs on Georgian territory, a Georgian official said, causing no casualties. Georgian officials also report four Russian aircraft shot down.


The U.S., NATO and European Union have all called for an end to the fighting. U.S. President George Bush and Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Friday discussed the conflict in Georgia, the White House confirmed.



In a letter addressed to his "fellow citizens" Friday, Saakashvili said he had mobilized tens of thousands of reserve officers and that the mobilization continued.


"We must unite," Saakashvili wrote. "All of us, hundreds of thousands of Georgians here and abroad, should come together, unite, and fight to save Georgia. We are a freedom-loving people, and if our nation is united, no aggressor will be able to harm it."


Georgia declared a unilateral three-hour cease fire at 3 p.m. to enable civilians to escape from the conflict zone, which so far was focused inside South Ossetia but included aerial targets inside Georgia, Saakashvili said.
"Clearly they don't really have boundaries in their activities," said Georgian Foreign Minister Eka Tkeshelashvili, in an interview with CNN. She said Russian aircraft had bombed "several villages" in Georgia outside of the South Ossetian territory.


By early evning Friday, Georgian Cabinet minister said the country's forces have taken control of the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali. He spoke to Interfax news agency, which also quoted separtists denying the city was udner Georgian control.


Tkeshelashvili said Georgian authorities are still collecting information on casualties.


Georgia was appealing to the world for diplomatic intervention, she said, stressing that Georgia was not asking for military assistance.


The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) said it was sending an envoy to the region immediately.


NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer issued a statement Friday saying he was seriously concerned about the recent events in the region, and he called on all sides to end armed clashes and begin direct talks. Watch more about NATO's attempts to help Georgia

Carmen Romero, a NATO spokeswoman speaking to CNN from Brussels, reiterated Scheffer's statement. She said NATO was in regular contact with Georgia's president and was talking to the Russian side.


Britain and the United States also urged all sides to bring an immediate end to the violence. Acting U.S. State Department spokesman Gonzo Gallegos said: "We support Georgia's territorial integrity and call for an immediate cease-fire. We urge all parties ... to de-escalate and avoid conflict
An emergency session of the U.N. Security Council on Friday discussed the dramatic escalation of violence. The session ended Friday morning without a statement about the fighting.


Violence has been mounting in the region in recent days, with sporadic clashes between Georgian forces and South Ossetian separatists. Georgian troops launched new attacks in South Ossetia late Thursday after a top government official said a unilateral cease-fire offer was met with separatist artillery fire.


Alexander Lomaia, the secretary of Georgia's National Security Council, said Georgian troops were responding proportionately to separatist mortar and artillery attacks on two villages -- attacks he said followed the cease-fire and call for negotiations by Saakashvili.


Russia said a Georgian attack on a military barracks left a number of Russian peacekeepers dead.


"It's all very sad and alarming," Putin said earlier in the day. "And, of course, there will be a response."


"There are lots of volunteers being gathered in the region, and it's very hard to withhold them from taking part. A real war is going on," Putin said, according to his spokesman, Dmitry Peskov.


Russian peacekeepers are in South Ossetia under a 1992 agreement by Russian, Georgian, and South Ossetian authorities to maintain what has been a fragile peace. The mixed peacekeeping force also includes Georgian and South Ossetian troops.


Saakashvili said the Russian invasion of South Ossetia was pre-planned.


"These troops that are in Georgia now -- they didn't come unexpectedly," the president told CNN. "They had been amassing at the border for the last few months. They claimed they were staging exercises there and as soon as a suitable pretext was found, they moved in."


Georgia, located on the Black Sea coast between Russia and Turkey, has been split by Russian-backed separatist movements in South Ossetia and another region, Abkhazia.
Looks like that even when Bush is out of office, we're going to have people just like him still around thinking they can do whatever the hell they want to do.

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Old 08-08-2008, 11:16 AM   #2
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So let me get this straight...Georgia and South Ossetia have been fighting for a few days now, and in one instance a Georgian attack left several Russian peacekeepers dead, so now Russia has invaded Georgia. Am I right, or am I missing something? I'm not exactly familiar with what's going on in the region, but that's what I gathered from the article.

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Old 08-08-2008, 11:17 AM   #3
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:18 AM   #4
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That's definately what it looks like!

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It was only a matter of time before Putin pursued a policy of expansion. I'm curious to see how the EU reacts to this, but one thing is certain. The US ought to keep the **** out.

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Old 08-08-2008, 11:20 AM   #7
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It's all...part...of the plan.



I just know this mother****er is going to rise from his grave one of these days, I just know it.

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Old 08-08-2008, 11:22 AM   #8
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It was only a matter of time before Putin pursued a policy of expansion. I'm curious to see how the EU reacts to this, but one thing is certain. The US ought to keep the **** out.
The US had better stay as far away from this as they possibly can!

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So let me get this straight...Georgia and South Ossetia have been fighting for a few days now, and in one instance a Georgian attack left several Russian peacekeepers dead, so now Russia has invaded Georgia. Am I right, or am I missing something? I'm not exactly familiar with what's going on in the region, but that's what I gathered from the article.
Russia has also been building forces alongside the Georgian border for quite some time now, so it's pretty obvious that they were going to invade Georgia to back the South Ossetian rebels regardless of Russian peacekeepers dying or not.

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The United States has done all it should, which is taking opposition to the violence there. Anything more would be inappropriate. Something like President Bush meeting with Prime Minister Putin. The guys not even the ****ing country's leader anymore. Doing so is only acknowledging what ******** Putin's scheme is, and accepting it.

But three things are for sure: Putin still owns that country, this is his war, and he's going to try and start more. He's a de facto Stalin. The Soviet Union is rising again.

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The United States has done all it should, which is taking opposition to the violence there. Anything more would be inappropriate. Something like President Bush meeting with Prime Minister Putin. The guys not even the ****ing country's leader anymore. Doing so is only acknowledging what ******** Putin's scheme is, and accepting it.
Actually since Putin took the office of Prime Minister, he had his President give almost all the powers of President to the office of Prime Minister making him the leader yet again.

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Russia has also been building forces alongside the Georgian border for quite some time now, so it's pretty obvious that they were going to invade Georgia to back the South Ossetian rebels regardless of Russian peacekeepers dying or not.
That's what I've been hearing. So the deaths of those Russian peacekeepers was just the excuse they needed to finally move in.

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Hell, knowing Putin and his old KGB tactics, I wouldn't be suprised if he sent Russian black ops in to kill their own peacekeepers so they had an excuse.

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Hell, knowing Putin and his old KGB tactics, I wouldn't be suprised if he sent Russian black ops in to kill their own peacekeepers so they had an excuse.
Now you're just sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

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Now you're just sounding like a conspiracy theorist.
Actually Putin does have a history of doing that kind of thing with killing journalists and poisoning comrades with radiation, so this doesn't sound too far fetched.

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Hell, knowing Putin and his old KGB tactics, I wouldn't be suprised if he sent Russian black ops in to kill their own peacekeepers so they had an excuse.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

It would be something similar to British SAS Operatives disgusing themselves as Iraqi insurgents and driving around taking shots at civillians.

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Looks like that even when Bush is out of office, we're going to have people just like him still around thinking they can do whatever the hell they want to do.
Yep, because protecting your country's citizens is such a terrible thing. I forgot that the world's leaders should all be pacifists, according to many posters here.

I'd invite people to do some research on this situation before jumping to ridiculous conclusions about Russia's intent.

Mind you, I'm not defending Russia or its leaders here, but I am advising that people do just a tad more digging before assuming Russia is out of line.

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I guess were sending a US envoy... We support Georgia's sovereignty.We trained over a thousand Georgian soldiers that are currently deployed in Iraq at the moment.

So much for staying out of it.

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Actually Putin does have a history of doing that kind of thing with killing journalists and poisoning comrades with radiation, so this doesn't sound too far fetched.
Oh I'm definately not denying the possibility.

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I'm packing my guns and heading out to defend my state!!!















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Yep, because protecting your country's citizens is such a terrible thing. I forgot that the world's leaders should all be pacifists, according to many posters here.

I'd invite people to do some research on this situation before jumping to ridiculous conclusions about Russia's intent.

Mind you, I'm not defending Russia or its leaders here, but I am advising that people do just a tad more digging before assuming Russia is out of line.
Actually I have done a bit of looking up on Russia and what it does.

For months now it has been building up forces along the Russian-Georgian border. Based on this recent invasion, training excersies my ass.

Russia has always supported South Ossetian independence. This is because South Ossetia has been very pro-Russian. And independent South Ossetia would lead to an increased Russian sphere of influence.

Putin has always done very shady things such as eroding democracy, supporting the Iranian nuclear program, killing political opponents, taking complete power, iterfering with the affairs of other nations, etc.

Peacekeepers have been killed all the time and you don't see the United States, Nigeria, France, Belgium, Canada, Germany, Spain, Pakistan, Uganda, India, Bangladesh, and others invading Sudan, Lebanon, Somalia, Bosnia, and Rwanda. Yet dead peacekeepers are stated to be the reason for this invasion? ********.

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Actually I have done a bit of looking up on Russia and what it does.

For months now it has been building up forces along the Russian-Georgian border. Based on this recent invasion, training excersies my ass.

Russia has always supported South Ossetian independence. This is because South Ossetia has been very pro-Russian. And independent South Ossetia would lead to an increased Russian sphere of influence.

Putin has always done very shady things such as eroding democracy, supporting the Iranian nuclear program, killing political opponents, taking complete power, iterfering with the affairs of other nations, etc.

Peacekeepers have been killed all the time and you don't see the United States, Nigeria, France, Canada, Germany and others invading countries. Yet dead peacekeepers are stated to be the reason for this invasion?
It sounds a lot better when you say that you are invading to avenge the deaths of innocent people, rather than going in because you can.

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Russia has always supported South Ossetian independence. This is because South Ossetia has been very pro-Russian. And independent South Ossetia would lead to an increased Russian sphere of influence.
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Peacekeepers have been killed all the time and you don't see the United States, Nigeria, France, Canada, Germany and others invading countries. Yet dead peacekeepers are stated to be the reason for this invasion?
I think it depends on exactly what Georgia has been doing recently in South Ossetia. Russia has a lot of ulterior motives, no doubt, but if Georgia has been aggressively blasting South Ossetia and partaking in "ethnic cleansing" (which is a loaded buzzword, I realize) then there might have been more reason for Russia's actions.

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It sounds a lot better when you say that you are invading to avenge the deaths of innocent people, rather than going in because you can.
Not really because every nation that has been involved in peacekeeping knows that peacekeepers get killed from time to time yet you don't see them invading other countries.

The only reason why Russia won't get punished for this is the very same reason why the United States won't is because it's a permanent member of the Security Council.

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