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Old 02-26-2014, 02:18 PM   #951
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What a brainwashed ***hole. Obamabots...*sigh*

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That's because you/we were lied to.
Though I don't have the problem with the media checking out her story, the fact that he has pulled an "all out war" on the women is pretty crazy, but it looks like he has found something that he believes will help him win in the end, and he is going for it....I'm kinda doubtful it will be what works for him. I think he just "screwed the pooch"...

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Did you essentially just tell this guy his wife died because they were stupid? Wow dude.
Sure seems like he did and it's really just par for the course with dnno.

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Old 02-26-2014, 04:25 PM   #953
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I most cases, that plan you fooled yourselves into thinking you needed wasn't really good for you. The other thing was you were offered another plan (with the same carrier).
You have no clue what you're talking about and we can decide what is good for us better than the bloody Govt thank you. The plan we now have is vastly better than any of the new ones offered by the same carrier. It was terrible terrible bad luck this happened in the two weeks we weren't covered with no prior conditions but the fact remains if we had been allowed to keep our original plan things might have been different.

I should have known it was a mistake to post this.

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Old 02-26-2014, 04:27 PM   #955
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I apologize that I didn't say this yesterday, but I am very sorry for what you have been through, and some of the less tolerable replies you may get from telling your story.

Thanks I must admit I was a little hesitant because its so close to me.

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Old 02-26-2014, 07:27 PM   #956
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You have no clue what you're talking about and we can decide what is good for us better than the bloody Govt thank you. The plan we now have is vastly better than any of the new ones offered by the same carrier. It was terrible terrible bad luck this happened in the two weeks we weren't covered with no prior conditions but the fact remains if we had been allowed to keep our original plan things might have been different.

I should have known it was a mistake to post this.
In most cases, these plans that were canceled because they had inssuficient coverage. The ACA was designed in part to prevent insurance companies from peddling lousy plans and to force them to replace these inferior products with more affordable ones that provide better and effective coverage. If your insurer is cancelling you plan to offer you a new one, then it can not be vastly superior the the one they want to replace it with (they should have told you in a letter that it wasn't compliant with the ACA as most of these cancellation letters did). I think you should look at your outgoing plan again and then compare it to your new plan to make sure you are saying the right thing.

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In most cases, these plans that were canceled because they had inssuficient coverage. The ACA was designed in part to prevent insurance companies from peddling lousy plans and to force them to replace these inferior products with more affordable ones that provide better and effective coverage. If your insurer is cancelling you plan to offer you a new one, then it can not be vastly superior the the one they want to replace it with (they should have told you in a letter that it wasn't compliant with the ACA as most of these cancellation letters did). I think you should look at your outgoing plan again and then compare it to your new plan to make sure you are saying the right thing.


I love how just for the sake of wanting to tell someone they're wrong about Obamacare you ignored the fact that he obviously has looked into the other plans and confirmed that his current one is in fact better.

I'm still baffled at people who defend Obama as well as the ACA to the death as if he/it are flawless. After reading enough of your posts I'm incredibly curious as to how old you are, what you do for a living and what health insurance plan you have...if any.

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In most cases, these plans that were canceled because they had inssuficient coverage. The ACA was designed in part to prevent insurance companies from peddling lousy plans and to force them to replace these inferior products with more affordable ones that provide better and effective coverage. If your insurer is cancelling you plan to offer you a new one, then it can not be vastly superior the the one they want to replace it with (they should have told you in a letter that it wasn't compliant with the ACA as most of these cancellation letters did). I think you should look at your outgoing plan again and then compare it to your new plan to make sure you are saying the right thing.
You just need to stop talking and quit blaming Steamteck after he pointed out things that are wrong with the law.

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In most cases, these plans that were canceled because they had inssuficient coverage. The ACA was designed in part to prevent insurance companies from peddling lousy plans and to force them to replace these inferior products with more affordable ones that provide better and effective coverage. If your insurer is cancelling you plan to offer you a new one, then it can not be vastly superior the the one they want to replace it with (they should have told you in a letter that it wasn't compliant with the ACA as most of these cancellation letters did). I think you should look at your outgoing plan again and then compare it to your new plan to make sure you are saying the right thing.
I'm going to try and be as blunt as I possibly can with you because you're really taking it to really absurd levels dnno. Even more than you usually do. I highly recommend that you knock it off and grow up. And you should be ashamed of yourself. The way you act is so ridiculous that even your fellow Democrats think you're a joke.

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I don't blame this company one bit. At least they are covering their employee's healthcare instead of docking their hours.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/27/re...stomers-bills/

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Old 02-28-2014, 07:29 PM   #962
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I don't blame this company one bit. At least they are covering their employee's healthcare instead of docking their hours.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/27/re...stomers-bills/
There's a deep dish pizza place I like to go to in San Francisco called Little Star that used to put a surcharge to pay for employee health insurance. Not sure what they do now since the ACA.

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Old 02-28-2014, 08:36 PM   #963
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There's a deep dish pizza place I like to go to in San Francisco called Little Star that used to put a surcharge to pay for employee health insurance. Not sure what they do now since the ACA.
How is the pizza on a 1-10 scale?

I ask because I'm a pizza fanatic. Mid January my wife and I moved up to Washington but we both lived in the Bay Area(East bay, Livermore)all of our lives up 'til now. Sadly, I never went to that pizza place which is funny considering how often I've been to the city.

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Just throwing this out there. I went through the application process and was approved for the tax credit to be applied to my premium which results in the monthly cost to cover me and my wife being $0.30. That gets us $5 doctor visits, $10 specialist, $4 generic prescriptions and total out of pocket expenses of $2000/each for $4000 total.

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I've been waiting for 2014. Just for dnno1 and Obamacare. So much more fail train to come. It's simply delicious.


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I ask because I'm a pizza fanatic. Mid January my wife and I moved up to Washington but we both lived in the Bay Area(East bay, Livermore)all of our lives up 'til now. Sadly, I never went to that pizza place which is funny considering how often I've been to the city.
Well, I'm biased towards deep dish, but it's probably my favorite pizza place and also President Obama's favorite as well. It has a thick cornmeal crust and I just love it.

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I'm going to try and be as blunt as I possibly can with you because you're really taking it to really absurd levels dnno. Even more than you usually do. I highly recommend that you knock it off and grow up. And you should be ashamed of yourself. The way you act is so ridiculous that even your fellow Democrats think you're a joke.
What's absurd is the fact this guy has any credibility whatsoever. I don't know him from Adam and for that matter I don't even know if he made this story up. He just came around the only has about 400 posts or so and just made up a story and it doesn't even make sense to me. The federal government laxed the rules so that people that were going to get their plans cancelled had some leeway to keep their plans. Now all of a sudden some guy comes here and said that his wife died because he was 15 days late. If he really cared and he really paid attention this should not have to happened. I'm not buying this story.

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That's not quite true. Under what you called the old system (private insurance), often plan holders pay for care that they will never receive. I am a guy and I will never have a baby, but my plan covers that... even before the ACA. That's just the way it works.
I already said this, but I guess I have to repeat myself. Some plans did and some plans didn't it was not absolute as it is now where maternity care and other things are mandatory. Many plans that didn't include these new required items were canceled. Again not all of these were junk plans as they are being characterized by the administration. The only way they are all junk plans if you consider anything without maternity care, drug abuse care, mental health care etc. to be junk plans. We still have private insurance it's just subsidized the ACA is a gift to the insurance companies and flat out corporatism.

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Obamacare: Forces you to get insurance, errors out every time you apply for something.

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I haven't made a move to apply for anything and I'm in no hurry to. Maybe if the Affordable Care Act was, ya know, affordable.

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I mean according to the info on their site I should actually be covered for no charge a month due to the tax credit. The only thing is I spend 15 minutes filling that ***** out and an error code pops up every time I hit submit.

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I'm going to try and be as blunt as I possibly can with you because you're really taking it to really absurd levels dnno. Even more than you usually do. I highly recommend that you knock it off and grow up. And you should be ashamed of yourself. The way you act is so ridiculous that even your fellow Democrats think you're a joke.
What's absurd is the fact this guy has any credibility whatsoever. I don't know him from Adam and for that matter I don't even know if he made this story up. He just came around the only has about 400 posts or so and just made up a story and it doesn't even make sense to me. The federal government laxed the rules so that people that were going to get their plans cancelled had some leeway to keep their plans. Now all of a sudden some guy comes here and says that his wife died because he was 15 days late. If you really cared and you really paid attention this did not have to happen. I'm not buying this story.

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What's absurd is the fact this guy has any credibility whatsoever. I don't know him from Adam and for that matter I don't even know if he made this story up. He just came around the only has about 400 posts or so and just made up a story and it doesn't even make sense to me. The federal government laxed the rules so that people that were going to get their plans cancelled had some leeway to keep their plans. Now all of a sudden some guy comes here and says that his wife died because he was 15 days late. If you really cared and you really paid attention this did not have to happen. I'm not buying this story.
I understand that you don't want to buy his story, and yes we have no clue of people's stories on here or not. If you don't believe the story, then why give it your time?

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Let's move on from this line of discussion please...

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