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Old 04-17-2013, 01:27 AM   #251
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I know a good or great score for that matter can't save a bad movie, but heck even Supergirl and Superman IV had great scores, imo. It just would've been nice if JNH had put more effort or if they had hired another composer, but I'll drop this GL talk and get back to Zimmer's MOS.

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i think Zimmer used the music from the score and mixed it up for the trailer. it sounded like what Zimmer would do.

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I know a good or great score for that matter can't save a bad movie, but heck even Supergirl and Superman IV had great scores, imo. It just would've been nice if JNH had put more effort or if they had hired another composer, but I'll drop this GL talk and get back to Zimmer's MOS.
Again, boo ****ing hoo that he couldn't polish that turd. Knowing his work, I also don't see him as someone who could perform a charity like that anyway. In that respect they should have gone after someone more generic...like Arnold....who may be more experienced at throwing more flashy colors at something so dull inside. But big deal anyway...it was a laughably forgettable film, probably all the better not to waste good music on.

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Old 04-17-2013, 01:37 AM   #255
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i think Zimmer used the music from the score and mixed it up for the trailer. it sounded like what Zimmer would do.
The trailer editors would probably be more responsible for combining musical elements ...you really don't have composers scoring to a trailer. It's also very common for movies not to have their actual score yet in even the last trailer. But that doesn't rule out the possibility of this being at least some part of the overall score (if not the main theme/overture) that the promo/marketing dept. had access to for this.

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LOL, I feel bad. I brought up the Green Lantern score in the first place, yet am not really feeling any urge to jump in here. Didn't like the score, JNH is still my fave, simple as that.

So 'bout that MoS music...any version without background dialogue/SFX yet?

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Tried to, apparently.

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LOL, I feel bad. I brought up the Green Lantern score in the first place, yet am not really feeling any urge to jump in here. Didn't like the score, JNH is still my fave, simple as that.

So 'bout that MoS music...any version without background dialogue/SFX yet?
What's that iPhone app where you can have it hear a song and then identify it? Maybe it can identify this if it's from another movie.

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The trailer music was good, but if that is the "superman epic finale" sound, i will be dissapointed.

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The trailer music was good, but if that is the "superman epic finale" sound, i will be dissapointed.
Sounds more like an early buildup element.....like if he's first emerging from the FOS or something.

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The trailer didn't have a chorus, or that hook. Yeah it felt like build up and build up and...stops.

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The trailer didn't have a chorus, or that hook. Yeah it felt like build up and build up and...stops.
Editors may not have had more to work with if it is actual score material.


Edit: There was apparently some news a while back about Zimmer recording some marching band drums for this score...and it very much sounds like that in this trailer music so it does increase that likelihood. It has some nice aspects to it...a bit 'commercial-like'. Who knows what part of a score this may be...but if it is the Supes stuff, this may be one of the only times I've ever wished that there was a bit more boominess at least reinforcing the drum elements. Although again, it could be any part of a score that may not call for that as much, too. I'd say a solid choice for the trailer, whatever it really is.

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No it really isn't...it's something that can be heard and distinguished objectively and repeatedly. Whether someone likes that or not is subjective. And I never said there was a problem with it, just that it bore a certain aspect consistent with his work.

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That is exactly what I was referring to - the words you chose to describe the tools he chooses to use. Saying there's "too much reverb" is 100% subjective. What is too much to one person might not be enough to another. I totally agree that whether he uses that technique consistently is objective.

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That is exactly what I was referring to - the words you chose to describe the tools he chooses to use. Saying there's "too much reverb" is 100% subjective. What is too much to one person might not be enough to another. I totally agree that whether he uses that technique consistently is objective.
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It's not 100% subjective when something, say....may be portrayed to be in a live room, then you suddenly make the reverb sound like a cavern or tunnel...or more 'studio' sounding than acoustic, for example, if you want to get technical. It's objectively too much to be consistent with the source, much like you wouldn't sensibly have a cricket's lone chirp echo over oceans. That is objectively too much, but it's a creative choice to break that consistency and go for something else....then it's subjective whether someone likes it artistically or not.

Some guitar players like to use more distortion in their tone...which is also objectively too much gain for the amplification path to handle cleanly (hence the distortion)...which is not a value or quality assessment of how it works artistically. But it IS subjectively favored for a lot of things. And so on. Hope that helps you.

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Sounds more like an early buildup element.....like if he's first emerging from the FOS or something.
I sure hope so. This is Superman, he needs to have the most epical sound ever IMO. The trailer music was good, really good. Shivers through my spines when Clark grabbed the steel at the burning oil rig. But, i got the shivers because i then felt, oh my god, imagine the shivers that is about to come! But it never came......

The sound when Supes took first flight and went up in the air (the scene that have seen several times before), thats when i wanted the score to reach top level. It didnīt....

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I like the trailer score I find it very similar to The Dark Knights '' Like a Dog Chasing Cars'' score eps at the 2.05 min mark

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Old 04-17-2013, 04:42 AM   #268
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Amazon seem to of cleared up the OST listings on their site and now actually list "Man of Steel: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" and it's still only $11.88.

The cool part? It's a 2 CD release.

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Zimmers work for Batman didn't nessesarily adhere to conventions of a "main theme" either. It was just different music for different moods in the films, obviously he had "themes" but not what you'd expect from Elfman or Williams.

That is probably what the MoS score will sound like, so if you are expecting an actual superman theme...then you might be disappointed.

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Zimmers work for Batman didn't nessesarily adhere to conventions of a "main theme" either. It was just different music for different moods in the films, obviously he had "themes" but not what you'd expect from Elfman or Williams.

That is probably what the MoS score will sound like, so if you are expecting an actual superman theme...then you might be disappointed.
Like Batman, this is more of an atmospheric scoring approach and, to be honest, I love it. It makes me feel all the right feelings that a Superman story should make you feel and I can't get it out of my head.

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Like Batman, this is more of an atmospheric scoring approach and, to be honest, I love it. It makes me feel all the right feelings that a Superman story should make you feel and I can't get it out of my head.
Yes, that was the word i was looking for "atmospheric".

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I will say this, the theme isn't as good as TA's. But everything else in the trailer looks better than it, and I really liked Avengers. It was better than TDKR.

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I watched the trailer a few times on my laptop, but just through the speakers. Just plugged in my headphones, put the equaliser on my favourite setting and watched it again on full volume. That score is just brilliant, gives me goosebumps.

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I hope there is some great main theme like in Superman(1978)

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Those drums are really powerful. Hans Zimmer is really brilliant at what I call "emotional swells". His music has just always struck me like flowing water, and he can direct your feelings with its current in any manner he sees fit. It's not as melodic as Williams, Goldsmith, Silvestri, or Elfman, but it is equally effective, IMO.

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