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Old 02-09-2013, 02:41 PM   #51
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you just know there's going to be a movie based on this.

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Old 02-09-2013, 02:43 PM   #52
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Charlie Sheen wants Dorner to contact him so they can talk it out.

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Charlie Sheen wants Dorner to contact him so they can talk it out.
Well, that will surely be some solid advice.

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Old 02-09-2013, 02:46 PM   #54
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Oh yeah, I'm sure he's going to be a big help.

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Old 02-09-2013, 03:07 PM   #55
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For a moment i thought it was a real quote too

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It isn't. I was more so paraphrasing. But heck, it might as well be a real quote. Actions speak louder than words, right?



Disgusting.
I don't know what chaps my ass more, A. they shot at someone they didn't see, B. they didn't just shoot a warning shot, they lit that truck up like the fourth of july, or C. Even after that hail of gunfire, they didn't even kill their intended target.

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Old 02-09-2013, 03:34 PM   #57
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I don't know what chaps my ass more, A. they shot at someone they didn't see, B. they didn't just shoot a warning shot, they lit that truck up like the fourth of july, or C. Even after that hail of gunfire, they didn't even kill their intended target.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the exact same way.

And now, there's no bigger picture. Dorner has murdered innocent civilians, and the LAPD have now attempted the same act as him. Murder on multiple innocent civilians. Whether or not they were successful is irrelevant, it's all about the intent.

They're both equal scum and I hope despite the media's attempt to maintain focus on Dorner and portray him as more evil, is seen through for what it is. A joke. This is an equal playing field now in terms of moral. And no badge changes that.

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You took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the exact same way.

And now, there's no bigger picture. Dorner has murdered innocent civilians, and the LAPD have now attempted the same act as him. Murder on multiple innocent civilians. Whether or not they were successful is irrelevant, it's all about the intent.

They're both equal scum and I hope despite the media's attempt to maintain focus on Dorner and portray him as more evil, is seen through for what it is. A joke. This is an equal playing field now in terms of moral. And no badge changes that.
I'm going to disagree with you on this one, Dorner isn't the only one who got screwed by this department, should everyone who lost their job kill their boss? or their bosses daughter? Its never an equal playing field. You can take 5 different people into one room and they will all see something different, and none of them will have lied.

Those cops who shot that truck will be fired and sued to high hell as they were in clear violation of policy. Their lives are going to be **** from here on out. Anyone who has any connection to LAPD knows they are still dealing with lawsuits from 94, and rampart, and this situation is going to make it an even bigger political nightmare. Wouldn't be surprised if LAPD folds under bankruptcy and LASO takes over for awhile.

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Charlie Sheen wants Dorner to contact him so they can talk it out.
I do not think that is a good idea. Who knows what would happen if a chemically-enraged, dangerous walking psychopath met with Chris Dorner.

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I have as much faith in police as you can have in any person you don't know wielding a gun. In other words, not much.

The scary part is that they can get away with murder, thanks to there being little to no oversight.

But then that's why I support the second amendment.

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Old 02-09-2013, 06:24 PM   #61
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I do not think that is a good idea. Who knows what would happen if a chemically-enraged, dangerous walking psychopath met with Chris Dorner.
They'd probably have a good cry and hug it out. He might be the best person in the world to get the guy to chill.






And in return, maybe Sheen could help out Dorner.

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Ha ha, I am actually quite pro-police. I am against the ideology of citizens arming themselves for protection/potential overthrow of the government, and would sooner trust trained officers with guns rather than every other neighbour armed with intent to use on another person.

But the cops are not acting like cops right now, they are acting as their own private revenge militia. Because I am pro-police, this offends and hurts me at a deep level.
I'm on the opposite end of this. I don't agree with this guy's actions, but I do beleive in people arming themselves against the pigs, not good cops mind you, but the ones who want to patrol and control, not serve and protect. This doesn't surprise me at all. California , especially the LAPD have been provoking this for years. The Panthers and others tried to bring this to light, but either no one listens or just sweeps it under the rug.

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You took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the exact same way.

And now, there's no bigger picture. Dorner has murdered innocent civilians, and the LAPD have now attempted the same act as him. Murder on multiple innocent civilians. Whether or not they were successful is irrelevant, it's all about the intent.

They're both equal scum and I hope despite the media's attempt to maintain focus on Dorner and portray him as more evil, is seen through for what it is. A joke. This is an equal playing field now in terms of moral. And no badge changes that.
You do realize that out of the 10,000+ police officers in Los Angeles only two of them shot up that truck, right? The LAPD as an organization is flawed due to it's systematic corruption, no one's going to argue against that (well, maybe the LAPD's Public Relations department) but don't let the actions of a select few determine your judgement of every single cop in LA.

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I really don't think that we can assume he had no one talking to him or trying to help him based on this manifesto. He obviously did have friends he cared about, who were good to him, and he mentioned them in the letter.
Most of the friends he mentions in the letter are mentors and contacts from his past, before he got fired. As a youth...in college...as a Naval officer in training, etc. Reality is, most people don't exactly keep in touch with their Drill Instructors from basic training. He was clearly living in isolation for the past few years.

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Who knows how much of this is true? The bottom line is, regardless of what happened with the police force, in an effort to clear his name, he immediately killed two innocent people. He's got an obvious death wish. He's an LA cop killer now...he's going to get his wish.
Yes, he probably will. But this whole situation is so much more complicated than that. This is about mental health, racism, the culture of the LAPD, police brutality, public safety, accountability and ethics...the list can go on. It will be beneficial for the LAPD and the community at large to understand how this situation came about and what could've been done to prevent it.

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Why does the LAPD seem to fail at their jobs so much more often than any other major PD in the country?

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I have as much faith in police as you can have in any person you don't know wielding a gun. In other words, not much.

The scary part is that they can get away with murder, thanks to there being little to no oversight.

But then that's why I support the second amendment.
How does the second amendment protect you from cops who wield guns with impunity?

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Why does the LAPD seem to fail at their jobs so much more often than any other major PD in the country?

The LAPD has a long history of hiring officers that are highly unstable...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkOVFbOqpoE

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How does the second amendment protect you from cops who wield guns with impunity?
Cops are going to show a bit more discretion when everyone is armed to the teeth.

Though the real point was that it's better to take care of your own personal protection than rely on a bunch of not particularly well paid, disciplined or trained public servants.

Especially when it's the LAPD, given the department's stellar record.

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Cops are going to show a bit more discretion when everyone is armed to the teeth.

Though the real point was that it's better to take care of your own personal protection than rely on a bunch of not particularly well paid, disciplined or trained public servants.
I am so not trying to get into this argument right now, but I'd just like to point out that if anything, this situation proves the exact opposite.

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I am so not trying to get into this argument right now, but I'd just like to point out that if anything, this situation proves the exact opposite.
Cops shooting an old unarmed lady?

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Cops are going to show a bit more discretion when everyone is armed to the teeth.

Though the real point was that it's better to take care of your own personal protection than rely on a bunch of not particularly well paid, disciplined or trained public servants.

Especially when it's the LAPD, given the department's stellar record.
How well disciplined and trained do you think the average gun owner is? I'll wager they've trained less than the LAPD, dismal as that organization is.

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Cops shooting an old unarmed lady?
He means that, when there's a cop-hating, gun-toting weirdo on the streets, cops become even more jumpy, not less.

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He means that, when there's a cop-hating, gun-toting weirdo on the streets, cops become even more jumpy, not less.
Are you deliberately missing the point? If citizens are armed, police will think twice before firing indiscriminately at people. I'm not talking about the fugitive. I'm talking about the bystanders. The people in their homes.

Granted, the LAPD may be a bad example, since they're exceptionally inept.

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