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Old 05-02-2013, 05:40 AM   #701
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anyone else really enjoy detective this week ?

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Once Batman Inc ends Detective and Batman and Robin will be the only Batman titles I'll get.

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I did. I thought it was great except for Emperor Penguin's backstory.

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Old 05-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #704
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Read Batman # 20. I loved the inclusion of

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the Batman Beyond suit. As a result, I spent most of my read of the comic with a stupid grin plastered on my face. I liked how Clayface was utilized, and felt the ending pulled an emotional string or two. Also, I was happy they used the Reaper; I hope it is a sign that some day, Andrea Beaumont will enter the comic continuity.

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I still do not know how I feel about Year Zero. I will be rereading the Zero issue, as I recall it is supposed to feed into it.

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I liked it too. One thing that confused me though,

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Yeah, that was weird...

Even with INC, he makes him bat robots and such but doesn't know he's Batman while giving him the (Nolan) like tours?

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just think of me as an idiot mr wayne

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Batman and Red hood was incredible.
Batman 20 was better than both #18 and #19. It wasn't a great issue, but the fan service reference was great, and the ending was touching without being too much.

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Yeah, the ending was fantastic.

And while I get so frustrated at death and resurrections, I'm really hoping that Tomasi is building toward his big arc that will ultimately be Bruce putting all this stuff that he's gathering into motion and resurrect Damian. He's really the first death in a long time that's bothered me. I just really enjoyed his character. Plus, I think his death had made people realize exactly how much they like him. You bring him back in an interesting way (that doesn't erase what Morrison did) and I guarentee he can support his own title.

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Really angry they killed off Damian. Honestly, I don't think I'll be reading any Batman comics for a while.
He was such a good character and to just get rid of him? Well, I'd rather not voice my opinions on that decision for fear of offending those who dislike profanity.

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Really angry they killed off Damian. Honestly, I don't think I'll be reading any Batman comics for a while.
He was such a good character and to just get rid of him? Well, I'd rather not voice my opinions on that decision for fear of offending those who dislike profanity.
Well, they didn't "just get rid of him" it was part of the culmination of Grant Morrison's gigantic Batman story that he's been working on since Damian's introduction. And the non-Morrison Bat-books haven't brushed him under the rug either. Especially Batman & Robin, which is spending half a year after the fact mourning him.

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I wish Bruce would've kept the Batman Beyond suit on for the duration of the issue

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Well, they didn't "just get rid of him" it was part of the culmination of Grant Morrison's gigantic Batman story that he's been working on since Damian's introduction. And the non-Morrison Bat-books haven't brushed him under the rug either. Especially Batman & Robin, which is spending half a year after the fact mourning him.
As much as I understand agree and agree with that, I still get frustrated at DC about it. Morrison has this habit of created amazing new charactes, the likes that give a fresh breath to the comics they're in, and then he undoes them in the end. He did it with Damian and he did it with Xorn. Both of which annoyed the crap out of me.

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Well, they didn't "just get rid of him" it was part of the culmination of Grant Morrison's gigantic Batman story that he's been working on since Damian's introduction. And the non-Morrison Bat-books haven't brushed him under the rug either. Especially Batman & Robin, which is spending half a year after the fact mourning him.
But it doesn't change the fact that apart from Batman himself, Damian basically became my favourite hero in the DC Universe.
His whole persona, how he always seemed on the verge of going psycho, his partnership with Dick Grayson - everything about the character appealed to me.
And they just killed him off!

Honestly, whenever I start getting enthusiastic about comics, they pull a stupid stunt like this and basically slap me in the face.
Kind of like when Hellblazer was cancelled.

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It's not a "just killed him off" scenario. It's different to Jason. Damian's death has always been intended, but delayed until the end. It's been built up for 7 years.

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It's not a "just killed him off" scenario. It's different to Jason. Damian's death has always been intended, but delayed until the end. It's been built up for 7 years.
You don't seem to be grasping my point at all.
I don't care if it's been built up for seven years, I don't care if there was a master plan to off him, I don't care about any way you want to rationalise it - he was pretty much one of my all time favourite comic characters and they just killed him off.

And with him went my impetus to read the comics. Whatever little justification there was means absolutely nothing to me.

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the new issues of batman/batman and robin were really good

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You don't seem to be grasping my point at all.
I don't care if it's been built up for seven years, I don't care if there was a master plan to off him, I don't care about any way you want to rationalise it - he was pretty much one of my all time favourite comic characters and they just killed him off.

And with him went my impetus to read the comics. Whatever little justification there was means absolutely nothing to me.
Stop getting invested in characters and just enjoy the story. Simple.

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How do you enjoy a story without caring about any of the characters? Emotional connections are at the heart of enjoyment of any narrative art form.

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Us being angry at damian's death is proof that Morrison's story is working, just like it should. I'm glad he did kill Damian because of that.

But i would be even glader if Tomasi's uber epic was about the return of Damian Wayne. And I'm sure it wouldn't cheapen the death.

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So you basically want me to stop reading fiction.
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he's not the only one. We all want you to stop reading fiction. Starting now.

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You don't seem to be grasping my point at all.
I don't care if it's been built up for seven years, I don't care if there was a master plan to off him, I don't care about any way you want to rationalise it - he was pretty much one of my all time favourite comic characters and they just killed him off.

And with him went my impetus to read the comics. Whatever little justification there was means absolutely nothing to me.
You clearly do not grasp my point. You again said "just killed him off" and "they" like there was some sort of conspiracy against you. LOL, calm down, precious. This was not done on a whim. This was the characters creator (in essence) ending his creation's narrative arc. As was intended he was introduced as the character you hate, hate to love, and then hate to see die. That's all, and it has clearly worked, Damian was my second favourite Bat-character after Dick and I'm sad to see him go and because of the abysmal writing elsewhere, I too will be taking a break for a while. But at least I freaking understand.

This is the equivalent to *****ing about Dumbledore dying in Harry Potter, or Smaug in The Hobbit. They had to die for the events of next book to take place, and were intended to die.

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