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Old 02-14-2013, 10:54 PM   #151
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Gateway is a little known character. His ethnicity shouldn't make or break the casting decision.

Furthermore, his ethnicity is Australian Aborginal. There are 517,000 of them left on the planet today.
I don't think they care about the color of the skin of the characters unless its really notable. Example, a white girl playing as Storm, a lot of people would complain about that, but Gateway? He's not even popular. Look at Leech, the color of his skin in the comics is green but in X3, it wasn't green. Not a lot of people complained about that.

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Thanks. But marvelrobbins like I said, that's adding more confusion to the series. It's the same as saying the Emma at the end of Origins wasn't Emma Frost. Why do it again? Bring Bill Duke back if Trask must be in it...it will make X3 more important in retrospect.
There are a lot of anti-mutant characters in the comics. So I don't see why they should use Bolivar Trask again, even though he wasn't really notable in X3, he still played Trask so no need to adapt Trask again. This is just going to be another continuity error.

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Old 02-14-2013, 11:00 PM   #152
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I don't think they care about the color of the skin of the characters unless its really notable. Example, a white girl playing as Storm, a lot of people would complain about that, but Gateway? He's not even popular. Look at Leech, the color of his skin in the comics is green but in X3, it wasn't green. Not a lot of people complained about that.
That's because there's not a real race or ethnicity of green people underrepresented on film...

Granted, I don't particularly care if Gateway's ethnicity is changed, but Leech is a poor example.


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Old 02-14-2013, 11:02 PM   #153
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x1 and x2 definitely feel like late 90's movies to me, but again all of Singers movies have a timeless feel to them. Look at all the characters wardrobe which are definitely fromdifferent decades (especially rogue in x2).
X2 didn't feel like the 90s at all to me.

Even if you ignore the N-Sync song, there were other indicators X2 was set in the 00s. Cyclops' Mazda was an '04 model. The flip phone Logan carried around looked like it was from the 00s. Just about every male student sported that short, spiky hair popular in the early-to-mid 00s. Rogue's clothing looked vintage only because she took Bobby's mother's clothes.

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God almighty you guys are talking about the early 2000's like it was forever ago.

And I guess it was, but it doesn't seem like it.

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Nothing about the original trilogy feels like the 1990s to me.

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Old 02-14-2013, 11:06 PM   #156
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That's because there's not a real race or ethnicity of green people underrepresented on film...

Granted, I don't particularly care if Gateway's ethnicity is changed, but Leech is a poor example.
Its not a real race but that is still the color of the skin of the character in the comics. Just because its not a real race, its easier to change the color of their skin in the movies. And thats the same thing with hair colors.

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X2 didn't feel like the 90s at all to me.

Even if you ignore the N-Sync song, there were other indicators X2 was set in the 00s. Cyclops' Mazda was an '04 model. The flip phone Logan carried around looked like it was from the 00s. Just about every male student sported that short, spiky hair popular in the early-to-mid 00s. Rogue's clothing looked vintage only because she took Bobby's mother's clothes.
All minor things.
What about all the other characters retro looks( especially the women)
Spiky hair was popular in the 90's too
flip phones were popular in the 90's too (didn't the matrix from 1998 have one too?)

The Mazda was released in 2003 but only a car enthusiast would care about that. Hell I saw a modern movie the other day with a 98 supra and it didn't look that old compared to cars from the 2000's. Just out of curiosity how old are you?

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I doubt they are going to count X-Men Origins Wolverine. They have pretty much said they aren't paying attention to it. I know the director of Wolverine has said that. The movie has too many inconsistencies that don't fit with the rest of the films.
Singer already said Origins is not being ignored and that film ends in 1979. That puts X2 in 1995. The 'N Sync song being the only hiccup.

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Nothing about the original trilogy feels like the 1990s to me.
Same. Even the first one's (2000) title card reads "In the not too distant future"

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Same. Even the first one's (2000) title card reads "In the not too distant future"
The not too distant future of 1944, not July 2000.

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The not too distant future of 1944, not July 2000.
Watch it again.

Edit: "Poland 1944" for young Mags, then "Meridian, Mississippi: The not too distant future" for Rogue's first scene

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God, people are debating about the time period of the original trilogy again because Professor X and Magneto looked like they were in their late 20s or early 30s in the 60s! They could be in their 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s in the original trilogy. We don't know their exact age but its already a given that the original trilogy was set in the 00s.

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Its not a real race but that is still the color of the skin of the character in the comics.
Despite my quoting your edited post, my reply was in response to your original post. Regardless, Leech is still not an apt comparison when it comes to replacing minorities with white people in film and why people may question it.

And the constant use of these when you disagree with someone doesn't make your point(s) any better. It makes you look immature.


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Despite my quoting your edited post, my reply was in response to your original post. Regardless, Leech is still not an apt comparison when it comes to replacing minorities with white people in film and why people may question it.

And the constant use of these doesn't make your point(s) any better. It makes you look immature.
Keep it up, you always have something negative to say about my posts.

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God, people are debating about the time period of the original trilogy again because Professor X and Magneto looked like they were in their late 20s or early 30s in the 60s! They could be in their 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s in the original trilogy. We don't know their exact age but its already a given that the original trilogy was set in the 00s.
I've never cared for continuity in any media. I thought peoples heads were going to explode when in all new x-men they said the originals came from 15 years in the past, and yet they look and act like there from the sixties. Same with film. If dofp says the original trilogy took place in 1988 1999 2009 or 2019 I wouldn't have a problem. All I know is first class was in the early 60's (cuz of Kennedy) and parts of dofp quill be in the early to mid 70's(cuz of Nixon). Luckily the original trilogy didn't have George W.

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I'm getting concerned now that the film won't be able to handle all of these characters. It's definitely possible but this roster is just insane. If they manage to balance it all out it will be a huge achievement.

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Singer already said Origins is not being ignored and that film ends in 1979. That puts X2 in 1995. The 'N Sync song being the only hiccup.
When did Singer say that Origins wasn't going to be ignored?

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God almighty you guys are talking about the early 2000's like it was forever ago.

And I guess it was, but it doesn't seem like it.
It was only 13 years ago, and less than that if you're not talking about the year 2000. Not long ago at all imo.

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Dinklage as Bolivar Trask, confronting Logan or Kitty in a climactic moment and talking about all of the alternate realities that exist...

"It's all so infinite...I mean, in another reality I could be a big, bald African-American!"

...Logan smirks.

... Dear god, no.

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Despite my quoting your edited post, my reply was in response to your original post. Regardless, Leech is still not an apt comparison when it comes to replacing minorities with white people in film and why people may question it.

And the constant use of these when you disagree with someone doesn't make your point(s) any better. It makes you look immature.
sorry for chiming it in but I think he was using it as an example of how noone is too bothered if they are small characters, for instance if Nightcrawler, Mystique and Beast werent blue people would be up in arms, it doesnt matter that blue isnt a real skin colour it would make a big difference to fans, someone like Leech however didnt get that reaction so its likely the character from the comics youre talking about (whos name ive already forgotten) wouldnt have people pissed off if they changed his race

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When did Singer say that Origins wasn't going to be ignored?
Less than a month ago. Here's a link:http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36317

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Less than a month ago. Here's a link:http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36317

I think he was referring more to Last Stand. I know I want to forget that awful movie. And I don't care I feel the move is set in the late 90s and early 00s. And besides someone else said the 15 years that Stryker said could just be a vague time frame. He probably doesn't remember the last time he saw Logan or just rounding it down.

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sorry for chiming it in but I think he was using it as an example of how noone is too bothered if they are small characters, for instance if Nightcrawler, Mystique and Beast werent blue people would be up in arms, it doesnt matter that blue isnt a real skin colour it would make a big difference to fans, someone like Leech however didnt get that reaction so its likely the character from the comics youre talking about (whos name ive already forgotten) wouldnt have people pissed off if they changed his race
No problem chiming in. I understand what psylockolosus is saying. My response was to psylockolosus' original post, and not the edited one that is featured in my reply. Originally, I don't believe psylockolosus said anything about the popularity of the character or the size of the role, hence my response.

Still, I don't think it's a great comparison. Small characters or not, I think the level of scrutiny changes, when the treatment of ethnicities and the whitewashing of races is involved, as people tend to think its representative of something more.

Of course, none of this matters now that we know Dinklage probably won't be playing Gateway.


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The OT was NOT set in the 90s for pete's sake.

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I don't understand why people think it was... ? X-Men 1 was at LEAST 2000.

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