All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 27

[BH/HHH]

It's actually strange that Brandon Routh auditioned for Smallville, I bet he wouldn't have minded putting the suit on.

[Krumm]

Originally Posted by BH/HHH

It's actually strange that Brandon Routh auditioned for Smallville, I bet he wouldn't have minded putting the suit on.

I didn't know that. It's funny how the same guys circle the part.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Originally Posted by BH/HHH

It's actually strange that Brandon Routh auditioned for Smallville, I bet he wouldn't have minded putting the suit on.

It's like that quote Carrie Fisher said. "I'm not famous. Princess Leia is. We just have the same face."

Routh didn't think he was better than it. Neither did Reeve. Neither does Cavill. They all got it. Superman is greater than anything you'll ever be. And for a moment, you and him will "have the same face." If that makes any sense.

Welling thought he was better than it.

[Rodrigo90]

I never got the impression Welling was big headed about it?

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Welling always seemed very unlikeable to me, like he thinks very highly of himself for no real apparent reason.

[ConnorKon-El]

Originally Posted by Rodrigo90

I never got the impression Welling was big headed about it?

He was though. He even refused to wear the suit didn't he ?

[FilmNerdJamie]

Originally Posted by ConnorKon-El

He was though. He even refused to wear the suit didn't he ?

Among other things, yes.

[Krumm]

Originally Posted by DaRkVeNgeanCe

Welling always seemed very unlikeable to me, like he thinks very highly of himself for no real apparent reason.

I hear that a lot but I'm not sure what people are talking about but that's because I wasn't into the show all that much and never read/saw interviews with him.

Are there any examples you can share?

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie

It's like that quote Carrie Fisher said. "I'm not famous. Princess Leia is. We just have the same face."

Routh didn't think he was better than it. Neither did Reeve. Neither does Cavill. They all got it. Superman is greater than anything you'll ever be. And for a moment, you and him will "have the same face." If that makes any sense.

Welling thought he was better than it.

Totally agree this always bugged me about Welling. It's a privilege to be offered the chance to play a part like that. That's why he should never have gotten the role, tbh I wish Routh had gotten it.

[fanboiii]

Would be interesting if Routh did Smallville and Welling did SR

[elgaz]

Originally Posted by DaRkVeNgeanCe

Welling always seemed very unlikeable to me, like he thinks very highly of himself for no real apparent reason.

Strange. I used to watch Smallville and follow a lot of the interviews and articles on it, and Welling actually came across as one of the nicest actors I've ever read about, period. Spoken very highly of by castmates and anyone who encountered him on or off the show, but quite private and just focused on working hard. Turned up to a lot of producer meetings and sat at the back of the room to try and learn how things happened behind the scenes, even after putting in a full day playing the lead character. There was also an article about him and his wife spending major bucks at toy shops every Xmas and taking the stuff to children in hospital but they deliberately avoid media coverage over it.

He has his reasons for not putting on the suit in the finale I'm sure, but I don't think a big head is one of them. In fact, from reading various things about the finale and the lead up to it, I'm a little inclined to think it was the exact opposite and it was very much a confidence issue with Welling. He was asked in an interview how he felt about putting the suit on and he answered "..........terrified".

[Nemeres]

Originally Posted by elgaz

Strange. I used to watch Smallville and follow a lot of the interviews and articles on it, and Welling actually came across as one of the nicest actors I've ever read about, period. Spoken very highly of by castmates and anyone who encountered him on or off the show, but quite private and just focused on working hard. Turned up to a lot of producer meetings and sat at the back of the room to try and learn how things happened behind the scenes, even after putting in a full day playing the lead character. There was also an article about him and his wife spending major bucks at toy shops every Xmas and taking the stuff to children in hospital but they deliberately avoid media coverage over it.

He has his reasons for not putting on the suit in the finale I'm sure, but I don't think a big head is one of them. In fact, from reading various things about the finale and the lead up to it, I'm a little inclined to think it was the exact opposite and it was very much a confidence issue with Welling. He was asked in an interview how he felt about putting the suit on and he answered "..........terrified".

And now, I'll always view him differently.

[Krumm]

Originally Posted by elgaz

Strange. I used to watch Smallville and follow a lot of the interviews and articles on it, and Welling actually came across as one of the nicest actors I've ever read about, period. Spoken very highly of by castmates and anyone who encountered him on or off the show, but quite private and just focused on working hard. Turned up to a lot of producer meetings and sat at the back of the room to try and learn how things happened behind the scenes, even after putting in a full day playing the lead character. There was also an article about him and his wife spending major bucks at toy shops every Xmas and taking the stuff to children in hospital but they deliberately avoid media coverage over it.

He has his reasons for not putting on the suit in the finale I'm sure, but I don't think a big head is one of them. In fact, from reading various things about the finale and the lead up to it, I'm a little inclined to think it was the exact opposite and it was very much a confidence issue with Welling. He was asked in an interview how he felt about putting the suit on and he answered "..........terrified".

Yeah, that's how I always thought he was until hearing people talk about him here. Wasn't he the one that kept it going? Didn't want to give the fans that final 10th season? I could be way off, again because I didn't follow it much, but I thought I read that on the SHH page back when season 10 was announced.

[Rodrigo90]

Yeah, he always seemed a nice guy to me.

He said he didn't want to be famous for the sake of being famous as well.

[Rodrigo90]

Originally Posted by Krumm

Yeah, that's how I always thought he was until hearing people talk about him here. Wasn't he the one that kept it going? Didn't want to give the fans that final 10th season? I could be way off, again because I didn't follow it much, but I thought I read that on the SHH page back when season 10 was announced.

It's no surprise. Fans ripped that show apart...viewers dropped.

Smallville for what it was, was a good show to me.
I never read into it as a true Superman show, even the first season's gist was enough for me to think of it something else.

10 years, and I loved every season, BECAUSE I wasn't expecting or wanting Superman to appear onscreen. BECAUSE I wasn't a purist, and I was open minded about it's own story.

Not everybody's cup of tea I know, but it was mine

[Kal-El.9859]

Originally Posted by elgaz

Strange. I used to watch Smallville and follow a lot of the interviews and articles on it, and Welling actually came across as one of the nicest actors I've ever read about, period. Spoken very highly of by castmates and anyone who encountered him on or off the show, but quite private and just focused on working hard. Turned up to a lot of producer meetings and sat at the back of the room to try and learn how things happened behind the scenes, even after putting in a full day playing the lead character. There was also an article about him and his wife spending major bucks at toy shops every Xmas and taking the stuff to children in hospital but they deliberately avoid media coverage over it.

He has his reasons for not putting on the suit in the finale I'm sure, but I don't think a big head is one of them. In fact, from reading various things about the finale and the lead up to it, I'm a little inclined to think it was the exact opposite and it was very much a confidence issue with Welling. He was asked in an interview how he felt about putting the suit on and he answered "..........terrified".

Yeah, from what I've heard and read the reason he didn't want to wear the suit is because he was afraid of it...as in he'd never be able to fulfill the expectations people would have and that he couldn't live up to the legend of those who came before him...or something along those lines. I've never heard that he thought he was better than it....not once. I didn't like him in the role but I never heard him speak ill of it. He always came across as being scared of the suit....instead of embracing the chance to play Superman, a beloved character, like most other actors would...he backed away from it and that's why I thought he was wrong for the role

[Krumm]

Originally Posted by Rodrigo90

It's no surprise. Fans ripped that show apart...viewers dropped.

Smallville for what it was, was a good show to me.
I never read into it as a true Superman show, even the first season's gist was enough for me to think of it something else.

10 years, and I loved every season, BECAUSE I wasn't expecting or wanting Superman to appear onscreen. BECAUSE I wasn't a purist, and I was open minded about it's own story.

Not everybody's cup of tea I know, but it was mine

Exactly.

I really enjoyed the last two seasons and have been meaning to go back and watch the middle ones. I wish had never bailed on it after season 1 quite honestly

[HankTheTurtle]

Originally Posted by Showtime

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[Mysteryman]

I thought that the reason Welling Didnt wear the Suit had something to do with WB/DC Licensing issues .

[Mike22]

I very strongly disliked what Welling did and how the finale ended with no suit and CGI Superman, and I even aknowledge that he refused to wear it, but having a big head was NEVER one of the reasons, not by a frikking long shot. Welling was and still is one of the nicest actors that I've heard of, and one could never read an interview of anyone, be it cast members of guest stars without them praising him as much as they could. Never once did I hear a single bad thing being said about him or anything resembling it actually, and this is from someone that DID read the interviews and followed up on most things Smallville right up to the end.
The issue with Welling and the suit dates back right to the beginning and his thoughts on typecasting, and genuinely having a fear of wearing it. I could never understand why because typecasting these days isn't what it once was, and physically he was the naturally biggest one of all the actors so far, some well spent time in the gym and he would have dwarfed the rest of them. But somehow fear overtook him and as he stated himself, he was terrified of wearing it, to much responsibility he felt.

I understand that some here never liked him but arrogance was never a part of the reason for refusing to wear the suit, he had his reasons and felt better off not wearing it. Sucks from a fans perspective, but made sense for him, I guess.

[Kal-El.9859]

Originally Posted by Mysteryman

I thought that the reason Welling Didnt wear the Suit had something to do with WB/DC Licensing issues .

Nope...from what I heard they gave the show their blessings to use the suit, but Welling was scared ****less of it so he said nope. They even made several different prototypes, which is why I'm guessing the look of the suit changed several times during the series finale

[Kal-El.9859]

Originally Posted by Mike22

I very strongly disliked what Welling did and how the finale ended with no suit and CGI Superman, and I even aknowledge that he refused to wear it, but having a big head was NEVER one of the reasons, not by a frikking long shot. Welling was and still is one of the nicest actors that I've heard of, and one could never read an interview of anyone, be it cast members of guest stars without them praising him as much as they could. Never once did I hear a single bad thing being said about him or anything resembling it actually, and this is from someone that DID read the interviews and followed up on most things Smallville right up to the end.
The issue with Welling and the suit dates back right to the beginning and his thoughts on typecasting, and genuinely having a fear of wearing it. I could never understand why because typecasting these days isn't what it once was, and physically he was the naturally biggest one of all the actors so far, some well spent time in the gym and he would have dwarfed the rest of them. But somehow fear overtook him and as he stated himself, he was terrified of wearing it, to much responsibility he felt.

I understand that some here never liked him but arrogance was never a part of the reason for refusing to wear the suit, he had his reasons and felt better off not wearing it. Sucks from a fans perspective, but made sense for him, I guess.

exactly...I NEVER heard of him having a big head. Those who say that he did are just making **** up because they either don't like him or didn't like the show. I don't like the show, nor his performance in it....but I'm not going to make up crap for excuses as to why he didn't wear the suit....he was just scared of it....that's all

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by Rodrigo90

It's no surprise. Fans ripped that show apart...viewers dropped.

Smallville for what it was, was a good show to me.
I never read into it as a true Superman show, even the first season's gist was enough for me to think of it something else.

10 years, and I loved every season, BECAUSE I wasn't expecting or wanting Superman to appear onscreen. BECAUSE I wasn't a purist, and I was open minded about it's own story.

Not everybody's cup of tea I know, but it was mine

Originally Posted by Kal-El.9859

Nope...from what I heard they gave the show their blessings to use the suit, but Welling was scared ****less of it so he said nope. They even made several different prototypes, which is why I'm guessing the look of the suit changed several times during the series finale

What was he so afraid of? The suit would eat him? Melt his skin?

The only thing to be worried about is 'looking silly'... and he's never looked sillier to me than in that finale, wimping out of wearing the suit.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Well while were on the topic of Welling I think Cavill's perfomance will take anything Tom did with the character and blow it out of the water.

[Excelsior.]

It's like that quote Carrie Fisher said. "I'm not famous. Princess Leia is. We just have the same face."

The same face and the same coke nail.