All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 27

[BH/HHH]

I think his career would've been pretty much the same. Bale's said himself he prefers to do independent movies to big blockbusters and he's done a ton of independents still. Maybe he might not have done Terminator but I reckon he'd have still done films like the Fighter.

[ModusPonens]

Originally Posted by Liam_H

I never said exactly the same. I believe his talents would've gotten him similar roles to showcase his talents. Sure being Batman gives him his choice of more mainstream/bigger movies but he's not interested in doing just those roles.

In this case, "exactly" is really a superfluous modifier, since "same" is defined as being identical with what is about to be or has just been mentioned.

And you definitely said that "his career trajectory would've been the same." You didn't say "about the same" or "roughly the same;" you said "the same," without exception. So it seems to me that you really meant "similar" when you said "same."

But how similar would his career have been, really? This is why I asked you what you meant by "career trajectory" and its measurement, because if you measure one's career by popularity or by number of significant roles, then clearly Bale's career trajectory would have been very different. He would not be nearly as recognizable and popular, and his largest role would have been smaller than Batman, for sure.

[Simo]

Not sure if this was ever posted or discussed but has anyone noticed how the official synopsis is different on Xbox Live for Trailer #2 under their videos section? I managed to track it down via Xbox.com:

Born on the alien planet of Krypton, Kal-El is sent by his parents to live on planet Earth, where he is given the name Clark by kindly farmer Jonathan Kent (Kevin Costner) and his wife, Martha (Diane Lane), who raise him as if he were their own son. Clark (Henry Cavill) becomes a reporter for the Metropolis newspaper "The Daily Planet," and strikes up a friendship with crackerjack journalist Lois Lane (Amy Adams). But when his new world is attacked by a force that humans are powerless to defend themselves against, Clark assumes the identity of Superman and fights to protect the entire human race.

Just thought it was interesting as I remember there was some talk and speculation from users here that we may not see Clark become a reporter for the Daily Planet till the end of the movie etc.

[titansupes]

Very interesting. I didn't think we would see him work at the DP before the end of the movie.

I can't help but notice no description talks about the DESTRUCTION of Krypton. They never call it the 'Doomed planet Krypton'. If that planet isn't blown the **** up as it should be, I'm going to be mad.

[bizarroelaine]

Originally Posted by titansupes

Very interesting. I didn't think we would see him work at the DP before the end of the movie.

I can't help but notice no description talks about the DESTRUCTION of Krypton. They never call it the 'Doomed planet Krypton'. If that planet isn't blown the **** up as it should be, I'm going to be mad.

the synopsis given by a large australian cinema chain does -

A young journalist raised by his adoptive parents after he was transported to Earth in infancy from the dying planet of Krypton finds himself in the position to save humankind after Earth is attacked

plus the first wb synopsis said clark is a young twenty something journalist so i really do think we will see dp clark before the end

[GreenKToo]

didn't JJ's script have Krypton not blowing up??? not saying that this krypton won't be destroyed, but they do seem to be using different ideas from past attempts.....maybe its something like the surface is destroyed but the planet itself doesnt break up.

[BH/HHH]

Yeah it did and it sucked lol both drafts of that script I read were terrible.

I think the planet will explode, tbh the planet not blowing up is a really bad idea as they'd have next to no reason to send their son to Earth.

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by Simo

Not sure if this was ever posted or discussed but has anyone noticed how the official synopsis is different on Xbox Live for Trailer #2 under their videos section? I managed to track it down via Xbox.com:
Just thought it was interesting as I remember there was some talk and speculation from users here that we may not see Clark become a reporter for the Daily Planet till the end of the movie etc.

How official is that though? I mean, did someone at Xbox Live write it?

[Dr.]

Originally Posted by BH/HHH

Yeah it did and it sucked lol both drafts of that [JJ Abrams] script I read were terrible.

I had a couple of issues with Abrams' 2nd draft - but it wasn’t bad at all. If you want to talk "terrible," that would be Strick’s Superman Lives screenplay.

[Coca Cola Duracell Franklin.]

Originally Posted by Simo

Just thought it was interesting as I remember there was some talk and speculation from users here that we may not see Clark become a reporter for the Daily Planet till the end of the movie etc.

Hahaha, people like that kill me.

Why would they bother to get Laurence Fishburne and Amy Adams to be in the movie if it's only going to be for the last ten minutes?

Having Clark walk into the Daily Planet and asking for a job application would be rather anticlimactic.

[Compi716]

Originally Posted by Coca Cola Duracell Franklin.

Hahaha, people like that kill me.

Why would they bother to get Laurence Fishburne and Amy Adams to be in the movie if it's only going to be for the last ten minutes?

Having Clark walk into the Daily Planet and asking for a job application would be rather anticlimactic.

Think of it Man of Steel/Earth One style. They're part of Lois' plot, but then Clark shows up at the end with the story of the century: the exclusive story on Superman.

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by Dr.

I had a couple of issues with Abrams' 2nd draft - but it wasn’t bad at all. If you want to talk "terrible," that would be Strick’s Superman Lives screenplay.

Oh its not the worst I've read by any means at all but it had some ridiculous things in it, I also hated the ending where he goes back to Krypton.

Never read Stricks, read Kevin Smiths which wasn't a bad read but not really great and Dan Gilroys which for the first half was fairly decent. I heard Stricks was abit extreme. Batman vs Superman wasn't too bad but did need work. My favourite script not made though was Cary Bates Superman Reborn where he ends in the bottled City of Kandor. I quite liked that.

[Mysteryman]

How many of these unproduced scripts are available online?

[Bruce_Begins]

JJ Abrams 2nd draft of Superman FlyBy, Kevin Smith's Superman Lives, Strick's Script.

Others I don't know, you can find the scripts I mentioned over at Superman Homepage site.

[GreenKToo]

I really hope his first reveal is caused by something other than zod. If thats the case, ( and it appears to be ) then its no wonder the military attacks supes as well. In their minds, he is just like the ones causing the harm.

[Kal-El.9859]

Originally Posted by Simo

Not sure if this was ever posted or discussed but has anyone noticed how the official synopsis is different on Xbox Live for Trailer #2 under their videos section? I managed to track it down via Xbox.com:


Just thought it was interesting as I remember there was some talk and speculation from users here that we may not see Clark become a reporter for the Daily Planet till the end of the movie etc.

I saw that a while back and posted it here...did make me think about how the movie will play out

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by Dr.

I had a couple of issues with Abrams' 2nd draft - but it wasn’t bad at all. If you want to talk "terrible," that would be Strick’s Superman Lives screenplay.

Oh its not the worst I've read by any means at all but it had some ridiculous things in it, I also hated the ending where he goes back to Krypton.

Never read Stricks, read Kevin Smiths which wasn't a bad read but not really great and Dan Gilroys which for the first half was fairly decent. I heard Stricks was abit extreme. Batman vs Superman wasn't too bad but did need work. My favourite script not made though was Cary Bates Superman Reborn where he ends in the bottled City of Kandor. I quite liked that.

[Zionite1]

Flyby had aweosme Fightscenes and an awesome potrayal of Kryptonina Mythology.MOs is taking inspiration from this elements so Im quite pleased

[The Guard]

He took a long break after doing 16+hr days for most of the 10 years he was on Smallville, but is now filming Parkland, a Tom Hanks produced JFK film

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/n...-parkland.html

And how big a role does he play in that film? I don't even see a character listed for him anywhere.

The guy doesn't appear to have much going on right now. I'm not running him down, I'm just pointing out that avoiding wearing a Superman costume didn't really seem to help him.

[fanboiii]

Originally Posted by Compi716

Think of it Man of Steel/Earth One style. They're part of Lois' plot, but then Clark shows up at the end with the story of the century: the exclusive story on Superman.

That's something we don't see much. Clark being Lois's peer as a journalist.

[JimJimBinks]

Something I would love to see in Man of Steel... A robot or two in the Fortress of Solitude. I don't think we will, because we would have seen toys for them by now.

[Quasimod0]

We never see much of clark being a journalist at all

[JimJimBinks]

Originally Posted by Quasimod0

We never see much of clark being a journalist at all

This is true, but as Iron Man 2 showed, having a Superhero movie with a bunch of press conferences and keynotes in it is a bad idea.

[Torrente]

I don't know what kind of reporter Clark will be at least in MOS since as seen in

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set shots and the comic con trailer he wears jeans, sporty long sleeve shirt with a tie and a messenger bag

I would assume his role as a reporter will be one of a rookie trying to climb that "corporate" latter, just a thought...

[Nemeres]

Originally Posted by Bruce_Begins

JJ Abrams 2nd draft of Superman FlyBy, Kevin Smith's Superman Lives, Strick's Script.

Others I don't know, you can find the scripts I mentioned over at Superman Homepage site.

The Abrams 1st draft is also online, which is (expletive) amazing 90% of the time. Whenever I need my Superman fix, it's one of my top choices. The 2nd one was a big step down, but it did have one thing I loved - A montage to Sinatra's "Fly me to the moon" right after Superman and Lois's romantic flight through the city, during which he lays her atop a skyscraper antenna and gently spins her around like a music box ballerina.