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Old 02-26-2013, 08:46 PM   #301
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id rather see scott and emma but i wish emma was in the trilogy instead of first class tho the effects are cooler and idk why every1 h8ed januarys performance she was great
Oh great now people want to push Cyclops and Jean aside In favor of him and emma.Which was stupid Idea.

Some of us who regurly bought X-Men comics In 1980's and 1990's don't like
some things that came In the Queseda regime.

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Oh great now people want to push Cyclops and Jean aside In favor of him and emma.Which was stupid Idea.

Some of us who regurly bought X-Men comics In 1980's and 1990's don't like
some things that came In the Queseda regime.
I definitely hated that Emma became the most prominent female character in the X-Men comics and became the headmistresses of the Xavier Institute. But a Scott and Emma pairing would be interesting to see in the movies.

I had this idea before of Emma accidentally travelling to the future with the X-Men. And Cyclops will come back for the next movie and have Emma as his new love interest.

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Cyke needs to return......Jean can stay dead/out of the film.

But Cyke needs a proper story/inclusion in the story.

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Old 02-26-2013, 09:23 PM   #304
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I definitely hated that Emma became the most prominent female character in the X-Men comics and became the headmistresses of the Xavier Institute. But a Scott and Emma pairing would be interesting to see in the movies.

I had this idea before of Emma accidentally travelling to the future with the X-Men. And Cyclops will come back for the next movie and have Emma as his new love interest.
I never liked the Idea of Cyclops basiclly cheating on Jean.It would be one
thing If after they killed jean again he become Involed with emma.

A X-Men reboot worrys me they would keep jean out entirely and just make emma his love intrest If Fox wanted to copy MS as some want them to do.

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I never liked the Idea of Cyclops basiclly cheating on Jean.It would be one
thing If after they killed jean again he become Involed with emma.

A X-Men reboot worrys me they would keep jean out entirely and just make emma his love intrest If Fox wanted to copy MS as some want them to do.

Marvel Studios put Scott and Emma together?

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Old 02-26-2013, 09:27 PM   #306
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I never liked the Idea of Cyclops basiclly cheating on Jean.It would be one
thing If after they killed jean again he become Involed with emma.

A X-Men reboot worrys me they would keep jean out entirely and just make emma his love intrest If Fox wanted to copy MS as some want them to do.
To me the thing I hate the most about a X-Men reboot, is it will start all over again. And they should just continue with what they have.

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Marvel Studios put Scott and Emma together?
That was what happened In comics.

who knows If Marvel does the comic reboot that some are speculating they
may rewrite scott and jean apart permently.

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Nooo. I want Jean with Scott!

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They could do that, but I doubt it. Jean's been dead for around ten years in the comics, and she's still fundamentally important to Scott's character. The All New X-men comic, which brought the young original X-men to the present, reaffirms how important they are to each other's characters. If anything I can see a Scott/Emma pairing further into a rebooted franchise, but I think it's always going to start with Scott and Jean.

Jean's too cinematic to leave out. She has bouts of group heroism and tragedy. She makes for great stories, even if they often end with her dying.

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I don't think they would reboot with Scott and Emma. There simply isn't enough there compared to Scott and Jean, and what is there works because of Emma's long and complicated history.

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I don't think they would reboot with Scott and Emma. There simply isn't enough there compared to Scott and Jean, and what is there works because of Emma's long and complicated history.
Yeah, they got alot to build with Emma if they went that route. Its an interesting dynamic just cause the X Men dont trust Frost and neither does the reader sometimes. Dont know if it would work with where Emma is in the films.

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I think seeing Scott and someone who might be Emma getting kidnapped together in WOLVERINE was the closest we'll see to seeing them together for a while.

Scott has had other loves. Madeline Pryor, Jean, Emma, they're all sort of an equal part of his life. Jean's the "classic love interest", but the mythos has gotten well beyond her being the only woman suitable for him.

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I think I disagree. Yes, Scott has had other girls in his life (Maddy/Emma), but it was always about Jean. He only wound up with Madeline because Jean was thought to be dead and he stumbled upon an actual clone of her, who he promptly left for the real thing when possible. As for Emma, he clearly had feelings for her, but Jean was always in the back of his mind. She's brought up a ton though out their relationship as something that Emma could never live up to.

As for what I'd love to see in terms of Scott/Jean in the next movie. They're certainly not going to be main characters, but that's ok. I don't remember if they allude to Cyke at all in FC? I know he was discussed in theory as Havoc's younger Bro instead of older, but I don't remember it actually in the flick. I'm sure someone here does. I think it would be great to see a clean cut glasses wearing Scott walk up to the x-mansion with a young redhead looking for a place to be. Nothing crazy, nothing plot shattering, just a nice nod to what's to come. Him and Havoc wouldn't even know eachother because Scott could just be out of the orphanage (creating future potential plot devices).

As for what I'd love out of the "future" storyline is the changed past modifying a future where Phoenix never happened and we get a glimpse of a different X Men from the original movies with Cyke, Wolverine, Colossus, Rogue (with the Ms Marvel absorption (because that's a fantastic character storyline for the future), Jean, Storm, and Kitty. The two clips could even be cut together pretty well as flashes of what the movie's plot did to the future and what has changed in the x-world.

I'm sure that would too many characters for the future, but just to get a peek of a team like that wearing real x-men outfits (none of that black leather) would be a treat.

Beyond all of that though, I just want a good movie with good developed characters and a nice storyline not just devoted to Wolverine.

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If Famke and James are in the movie, would you rather they be revealed way before hand, or be a complete surprise (if that's even possible)?

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A complete surprise! A blindside that will shock the entire audience!

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Cyke needs to return......Jean can stay dead/out of the film.

But Cyke needs a proper story/inclusion in the story.
well, I think Cyclops can stay dead. What a boring character and Marsden certainly brings nothing to the role. Jean should come back: movie Jean is a much more interesting character than movie Cyclops.

I would prefer if we knew in advance if either was coming back.

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hmm... Not sure about having Cyclops stay dead. If Jean should come back, who's gonna replace Scott?

I think it should be me lol. haha.

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If there's someone that needs to return out of these two, it should be Cyclops. Jean was already resurrected before.

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Agreed. But that latest article on S&T is true about Halle Berry, I honestly think the "s*** that Bryan is talking about "fixing" directly involves Cyclops and Jean. Or at the very least Cyclops.

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Even if Bryan Singer intends to include Cyclops and Jean in his fixing ideas. I think he should just save it for the next movie. And I think the next X-Men movie after DOFP will be released in 2016 or 2017. Its not a long wait.

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If Halle is returning than these two have to return. It would be such a shame if they didn't.

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I don't think so. Storm was alive at the end of X3. Its not the same thing with Cyke and Jean.

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Despite my long-standing disappointment with Scott's appearances in the films so far, I'm not clamouring for his return in this film. I was to begin with, but the cast assembled so far has just been amazing. Certainly would be great to see Cyclops back in action, but as I expect he will at very least be potentially returning for the next film, I'm easy either way.

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