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Old 02-20-2013, 11:24 PM   #326
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So if Swagger goes...Zeb goes too?

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I'd rather he go to Japan personally. No interest in seeing Swagger in TNA at all.

"My goodness Jack Swagger is the Leader of Aces and 8's".

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I'd rather he go to Japan personally. No interest in seeing Swagger in TNA at all.

"My goodness Jack Swagger is the Leader of Aces and 8's".
Definitely don't want to see him in TNA, there isn't enough time for the wrestlers they have right now.

Having guys like Morgan, York, Joey Ryan that haven't shown up in weeks and guys/gals like Kenny King, Zema Ion, Miss Tess, the Robbie's, Mickie and Bad Influence that don't get t.v. time every week.

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man, karma is a B *****! wwe tried to push this crap down our throats and it blew up in their faces missy hyatt backstage. i hate when they push stuff nobody wants to see.

push someone who DESERVES a title shot not a boring slob who is tyring to stir up controversy for a quick pop.


tho i woulda been fun watching make all the racists look like idiots and hearing the heat hed get

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The gimmick and the manager were the interesting part. You could have given Windham Rotunda a.k.a. Bray Wyatt this gimmick and he wouldn't have required a mouthpiece.

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:33 AM   #331
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The gimmick and the manager was the interesting part. You could have given Windham Rotunda a.k.a. Bray Wyatt this gimmick and he wouldn't have required a mouthpiece.
They could still do this, just have Zeb give a kayfabe reason for dropping Swagger and going with Husky.

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You're right, bullets. Tough Enough was Martins to lose IMO. He had a great attitude, was a fine wrestler, and could have been a strong old fashioned babyface. Its a shame he got hurt. Between Andy and Luke though...Andy had the size but hindsight shows size isnt even a guarantee. Maybe Luke was an a**hole but he had everything else over Andy. And looking at the success of The Shield, Punk, and Daniel Bryan right now who knows how far Luke could have gone.

I understand why Austin made the call that he did and agree to a degree but maybe he should have made a riskier more out outside the box decision. Sometimes those also pay off in pro wrestling. That kind of decision from his bosses paid off for him. Dont get me wrong Austin MORE than earned his shot but Vince still had to make that final choice.

Recently TNA's gut check seems to be something similar to the revived Tough Enough only done better. A lot of those GC guys have some more potential IMO than Andy. Can't wait to see what Spud can do in TNA.
Gut checks sounds good, I'll have to catch up with that. Luke was probably too arrogant to Austin's liking , but there was potential. It might of been cool if Luke somehow cheated or worked his way into WWE. He had tons of heat being the villain of a reality show. The had to put a lot of work into Andy and it wasn't paying off I guess. Martin seemed to be the favorite. I'm sure it would of come down to him and Luke as well had it not been for that injury.

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I wish I could have seen the Fox news report for a laugh. What'd they say? What was the Fox stance on this?

This link had the fox news video. They go on the defensive , bash the angle , and make several lame jokes.
http://www.sescoops.com/wwe-responds...ter-character/



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Swagger finally gets a push and begs to go back in the doghouse.


It's a shame because Zeb has done good work helping Swagger, but gets this in return. Also there must be some resentment in the locker room. I guess Swagger better hope this blows over and that he doesn't screw up again.




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Old 02-21-2013, 12:53 AM   #333
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I'd rather he go to Japan personally. No interest in seeing Swagger in TNA at all.

"My goodness Jack Swagger is the Leader of Aces and 8's".
They would jump at the chance to add even more "names" to Aces and 8's.

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why give husky this gimmick when hes doing a much more interesting character on NXT?

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Swagger. I think WWE will write him out of the WHC angle this Monday, it'll also be interesting to see how Mantel reacts as he just lost someone to a drunk driver apparently.



Who are the two with Naitch?
I think he'll be written out too. His only saving grace is that it's first strike so they may delay his suspension. I think they delayed someone's suspension before, either Mysterio or Orton.

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Old 02-21-2013, 01:29 AM   #336
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why give husky this gimmick when hes doing a much more interesting character on NXT?
Well really just because I think he could do it well. I never thought Ambrose, Rollins, or Reigns would be doing something like The Shield gimmick but they are.

It's still a gimmick about propaganda and brainwashing people so it could work. I was just making the point that they could have picked someone more talented than Swagger.

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Old 02-21-2013, 01:48 AM   #337
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Well really just because I think he could do it well. I never thought Ambrose, Rollins, or Reigns would be doing something like The Shield gimmick but they are.

It's still a gimmick about propaganda and brainwashing people so it could work. I was just making the point that they could have picked someone more talented than Swagger.
his current one has all of that too and its awesome. id rather see him continue that

did you ever read preacher? remember jesse custer's family? it gives off that vibe.

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Old 02-21-2013, 02:06 AM   #338
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his current one has all of that too and its awesome. id rather see him continue that

did you ever read preacher? remember jesse custer's family? it gives off that vibe.
Oh yeah that's the point I was trying to make; the gimmicks are similar to a degree. So while I prefer his current gimmick, the xenophobe gimmick would be acceptable to me because he should be on TV.

I haven't actually read Preacher but I'm aware of it.

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Old 02-21-2013, 02:29 AM   #339
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They would jump at the chance to add even more "names" to Aces and 8's.
What is Jake Hager doing in the Impact Zone?

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Old 02-21-2013, 03:00 AM   #340
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:51 AM   #342
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Here I was defending the guy a few days ago and he has to go and completely fu** it all up! G** damn it!



Rob Van Dam was the WWE Champion when he was arrested for drug charges. They had him immediately drop the title before suspending him for 30 days.

Possession of marijuana AND drunk driving renders Jackass Swagger unworthy of his Wrestlemania title shot and I hope he loses it along with being fined and suspended.

Hopefully, Randy Orton (or whoever they decide on) will get to be in a Wrestlemania title match now.

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Old 02-21-2013, 04:55 AM   #343
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If we can't get a 3way for the WWE at least make the WHC more interesting now.
Del Boro Vs Henry Vs Jericho, have Y2J win fans go nuts .. then get Ziggler to cash in on him.

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Here I was defending the guy a few days ago and he has to go and completely fu** it all up! G** damn it!



Rob Van Dam was the WWE Champion when he was arrested for drug charges. They had him immediately drop the title before suspending him for 30 days.

Possession of marijuana AND drunk driving renders Jackass Swagger unworthy of his Wrestlemania title shot and I hope he loses it along with being fined and suspended.

Hopefully, Randy Orton (or whoever they decide on) will get to be in a Wrestlemania title match now.
I hope it's Henry or Lesnar in that spot. ADR beating one of those guys would seem more monumental than beating Orton. Plus, it isn't as if their respective opponents, Khali and HHH, are going to be hot feuds anyway.

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This link had the fox news video. They go on the defensive , bash the angle , and make several lame jokes.
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Is that what passes for news on Fox?

That is just people sitting around a table giving their opinion on what they saw on TV last night and making lame jokes

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Don't know what to think of the Swagger situation.

Looks like he may have blown it just when things were about to get interesting.

I enjoyed the Colter character.

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I don't think Del Rio is even close to being ready or worth a Lesnar match or job. Honestly I'd be reluctant to waste Mark Henry's momentum on him either but I think he's the best option if they pull Swagger, or they could just make a Del Rio vs Ziggler vs Jericho match for the title.

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I think he'll be written out too. His only saving grace is that it's first strike so they may delay his suspension. I think they delayed someone's suspension before, either Mysterio or Orton.
I thought weed was a fine not a suspension? At any rate I think the fact there is a DUI charge as well WWE can suspend him on disciplinary grounds like they did with RVD in 2006.

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Old 02-21-2013, 06:12 AM   #348
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I guess it's a good thing he's not the new Goldust.
I'd call Swagger the new Ken Kennedy but I think Swagger's f*** up is even worse. I mean...he does this during the biggest push of his career towards the WHC at Wrestlemania? Stupid is an understatment.

Even RVD got caught AFTER he won the big one.


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Swagger. I think WWE will write him out of the WHC angle this Monday, it'll also be interesting to see how Mantel reacts as he just lost someone to a drunk driver apparently.
I want to know what Jim Ross REALLY thinks about all this. He's supported Swagger more strongly than anyone else in WWE.


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Well look at the bright side, this means that there's a chance that we won't have to see Alberto go up against Swagger for the title at Wrestlemania. I only wish now that they'd have Ziggler cash in his contract since he's the first wrestler that I know of who's had the contract and hasn't used it for this long...normally, the person would have cashed it in by now according to past records.
Yeah this could end up as something better coming out of a bad situation. Like Cena vs HBK instead of HHH when Triple H got hurt.

A lot of people weren't crazy about Del Rio vs Swagger in the first place. If he loses his spot I sure don't feel sorry for him. Its his own damn fault.


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I'd rather he go to Japan personally. No interest in seeing Swagger in TNA at all.

"My goodness Jack Swagger is the Leader of Aces and 8's".
Swagger going to TNA would just make any airtime he gets in TNA suck. No reason the TNA fans who aren't WWE robots need to suffer through his lameness.


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man, karma is a B *****! wwe tried to push this crap down our throats and it blew up in their faces missy hyatt backstage. i hate when they push stuff nobody wants to see.

push someone who DESERVES a title shot not a boring slob who is tyring to stir up controversy for a quick pop.


tho i woulda been fun watching make all the racists look like idiots and hearing the heat hed get
Lets all be honest. The spot against Del Rio should have been Zigglers anyway. He deserved it way more than Swagga. Like Antman said any number of guys could have worked in the xenophopic american gimmick with Zeb Colter. Joe Hennig sure could have used something like that. Hell I think it could work better for him. He could say guys like Del Rio are taking his spot when his family has been in this business for generations and the spotlight is part of his legacy. he deserves it.


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Gut checks sounds good, I'll have to catch up with that. Luke was probably too arrogant to Austin's liking , but there was potential. It might of been cool if Luke somehow cheated or worked his way into WWE. He had tons of heat being the villain of a reality show. The had to put a lot of work into Andy and it wasn't paying off I guess. Martin seemed to be the favorite. I'm sure it would of come down to him and Luke as well had it not been for that injury.
Its hilarious to me that the one person from TE to make it so far was Cameron. The first person eliminated I believe. They should have at least given Luke a shot the way they ended up giving Cameron one. Like you said he could have been in an outsider kind of angle.


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I don't think Del Rio is even close to being ready or worth a Lesnar match or job. Honestly I'd be reluctant to waste Mark Henry's momentum on him either but I think he's the best option if they pull Swagger, or they could just make a Del Rio vs Ziggler vs Jericho match for the title.
Agree with all of what you say. putting Lesnar with Del Rio NOW would be a waste. Lesnar vs Henry should be something thats built to down the line instead of them blowing their wad on it any time soon.

Like you said a three way or four way match between the guys you listed is the best option. It adds star power and makes it more unpredictable. Whoever wins Ziggler could just cash in after.


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If he is written out, how do y'all think it will go down?

Maybe Swagger says he doesn't want to wait til WM and challenges Del Rio on Raw/Smackdown. He could use the excuse that he doesn't want to see a Mexican disgrace the WHC one more day or something.

Del Rio wins. Ziggler cashes in and wins. Del Rio takes his rematch at WM.

Or.......

Maybe Swagger does something so reprehensible that he's immediately suspended and loses his WM spot. Maybe he beats up Ricardo badly.

Same scenario could see Swagger seriously injuring Ricardo. Del Rio is so incensed that he doesn't want to wait til WM and goads Swagger into using his title shot opportunity that very night. Del Rio wins....and probably again, a Dolph cash in.

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