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Old 02-24-2013, 12:23 AM   #26
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The media and people in general, are dumb. I thought the Machida/Hendo fight was great. People need to think about what kinda fight that was going to be. You're not gonna walk in there and trade punches with Hendo to take a win. From a guy who can knock you out with one punch and has one of the best chins in MMA. Makes me want to smack people, saying the fight was boring. You have to fight tactical against someone like Hendo. I would like some of these people and media members to go train and just do a sparring session. They'd quit within 30 seconds.

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The media and people in general, are dumb. I thought the Machida/Hendo fight was great. People need to think about what kinda fight that was going to be. You're not gonna walk in there and trade punches with Hendo to take a win. From a guy who can knock you out with one punch and has one of the best chins in MMA. Makes me want to smack people, saying the fight was boring. You have to fight tactical against someone like Hendo. I would like some of these people and media members to go train and just do a sparring session. They'd quit within 30 seconds.
Dude, that fight was all kinds of boring. The reason it was boring wasn't because it was tactical, it was because there was no action. You could count the number of legitimate significant strikes on 1 hand. GSP is a tactical fighter & even though he hasn't had a finish in his last 4/5 fights, I don't consider any of those last few fights boring.

It's somewhat ridiculous given that Lyoto Machida has such a sizeable speed advantage over Henderson that he didn't make more of an effort to be a little more aggressive given that the few times he actually did take a step forward he was so quick with his strike that he was able to get in, tag Hendo, then take about 15 steps backwards & be on the other side of the cage by the time Henderson had reacted. Sadly though he only took about 3 or 4 forward steps to attack in the whole fight. He refused to come forward & Henderson didn't have the speed to get close to him in time.. & because of this Lyoto was able to do an Anderson Silva style dance in front of Henderson just like Silva did against Maia.

Thank **** that fight wasn't the Main Event like those 2 had supposedly wanted, would have been boring to see another 2 rounds of that. If you think that fight was entertaining, you must have thought the Silva/Maia fight was Fight of The Decade.

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I was there live. No one liked that fight.

How ironic considering that was the fight all the haters thought should've been the main event and got five rounds.

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I was there live. No one liked that fight.

How ironic considering that was the fight all the haters thought should've been the main event and got five rounds.
How was the atmosphere of the main event live?

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Hamill-Joker, it was pretty amazing. Packed house and the crowd was jacked for the main event more than any other fight. People were on their feet when Carmouche almost got the big upset. I think fans would've been OK with it had Carmouche won. Once we saw Rousey going for the armbar, the reaction got even bigger.

FYI, I went to the same venue for UFC on Fox: Velasquez vs. Dos Santos. Rousey vs. Carmouche did a better gate and attendance than a show that had a heavyweight title fight as the main event. The crowd was even better for this show. I'd also say this crowd was more intelligible about MMA and grappling. People would actually clap and get excited about the takedowns.

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I was in the cheap seats since that is all I could get for this card. I had applied to attend as press but I got turned down since Rousey got a ton of mainstream media attention that doesn't usually cover the UFC. I didn't really mind though since my friends gave me a ticket as a gift and it was nice to just sit back and enjoy the fight for once without having to worry about doing all the play-by-play coverage. My seat was front of the top level, so all in all it was a pretty good view. I think really, balcony sits are good for the UFC to get a better view of the cage.

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I was there live. No one liked that fight.

How ironic considering that was the fight all the haters thought should've been the main event and got five rounds.
I do appreciate where CrypticOne is coming from & that sometimes fans & the media have a tenancy to boo or slag off fights that were 3 rounds of grappling/clinch strikes as opposed to 2 guys swinging punches left, right & centre.. however that isn't the case with the Machida/Henderson fight, it was dull & boring simply because there was no action. It was about 14 minutes of them standing with each other & the most eventful thing was Machida flailing his arms about dancing.

There was so little action that's why it was a split decision, because Henderson's fairly timid leg kicks & Machida's push kicks actually had a chance of winning each other rounds.

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yeah machida needs to be careful his lack of offense is why rampage beat him

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yeah machida needs to be careful his lack of offense is why rampage beat him
Exactly. Even in the Ortiz fight he was more aggressive in getting bigger attacks on Ortiz, taking him down, doing ground and pound, etc.

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The reason he was more aggressive in the Ortiz fight was because his striking was better and he had no threat from an Ortiz knock out. If you guys want to see aggression, go watch WorldstarHipHop. Machida isn't going to go punch for punch with the likes of Rampage or Hendo, speed advantage or not. He'd get knocked out. Simple as that. Machida's striking is better than Hendo's and Rampage's, but if one of those guys tag you, you're out. I don't know what people were expecting to see from that fight. Some of Hendo's punches were coming fast as hell. And he did chase Machida. It's not like he was backing away while Hendo was standing in one spot. Hendo was attacking.

If any of you have been in a fight with a power puncher, or someone generally bigger than you, bulk wise, you're gonna pick your shots and keep your distance. You're not gonna rush in there with no regard (thinking you have a speed advantage), well, most of you would probably do that and most likely get knocked.

I also don't know why fighters raise their hands when fighting Machida. CUT HIM OFF! Don't chase him. Every time I see a fighter raise their hands in protest, it makes me want to smack them. And it's not like Machida is running away. He's side stepping his opposition/creating new angles and countering when he sees an opening. I hate American fans, all they can do is boo. No respect. Most of them couldn't even take a leg kick or a punch on the arm, cause their bones would break from sharp knuckles.

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This is what i was telling a few people at the sports bar where we saw the fight...judo side control basically
Yep. I was kinda irritated by Joe Rogan's commentary regarding the pin though. He was making it sound like Liz could easily escape/jailbreak it. Kesa is one of the toughest positions to reverse or escape in all of grappling, especially when you've got an Olympic caliber Judoka bearing down on you.

Carmouche, as a BJJ practitioner, rarely encountered the pin before. So that, too, likely played a factor in why she was overwhelmed by it.

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The reason he was more aggressive in the Ortiz fight was because his striking was better and he had no threat from an Ortiz knock out. If you guys want to see aggression, go watch WorldstarHipHop. Machida isn't going to go punch for punch with the likes of Rampage or Hendo, speed advantage or not. He'd get knocked out. Simple as that. Machida's striking is better than Hendo's and Rampage's, but if one of those guys tag you, you're out. I don't know what people were expecting to see from that fight. Some of Hendo's punches were coming fast as hell. And he did chase Machida. It's not like he was backing away while Hendo was standing in one spot. Hendo was attacking.
People expect to see exactly that, a fight. People expect to see both guys, regardless of style, show effective aggression & a some sort of willingness to engage your opponent.

The fact is Machida's style & the fact that both fighters seemingly showed too much respect to something the other fighter had, Henderson's power/Machida's speed that created the recipe for the worst fight of the card.

Machida's style is an art, he is very skilled at what he does, however he obviously hasn't learnt his lesson from the Rampage fight regarding octagon control & effective aggression, 2 of the criteria the judges are supposed to score a fight on besides clean strikes.

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If any of you have been in a fight with a power puncher, or someone generally bigger than you, bulk wise, you're gonna pick your shots and keep your distance. You're not gonna rush in there with no regard (thinking you have a speed advantage), well, most of you would probably do that and most likely get knocked.
Of course, but Machida didn't even do that. He waited & waited & waited, when Henderson maybe made 5 advances to engage him & of the 5 times he maybe ate a jab from Machida for his trouble.

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I also don't know why fighters raise their hands when fighting Machida. CUT HIM OFF! Don't chase him. Every time I see a fighter raise their hands in protest, it makes me want to smack them. And it's not like Machida is running away. He's side stepping his opposition/creating new angles and countering when he sees an opening. I hate American fans, all they can do is boo. No respect. Most of them couldn't even take a leg kick or a punch on the arm, cause their bones would break from sharp knuckles.
Simply because it's frustrating to fight a guy that is simply so defensive with his striking, don't get me wrong I'm not suggesting for 1 second that every fighter should be reckless & wild type strikers. However look at GSP vs Condit, GSP is a tactical striker, he puts defense before recklessness & yet against Condit, he pressed the action, he took the centre of the cage & he forced the striking errors from Condit.

It takes 2 fighters to make a fight, Machida certainly didn't help things & for once in his career neither did Henderson.

Pro fighters can't take leg kicks or punches either, that's why they try to check the kicks & block the punches.

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I wonder what kind of numbers UFC 156 did.

I mean UFC 156 got like 2 million viewers for the prelims alone and that usually bodes well for the PPV.

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Diego Sanchez is going back to his "Nightmare" moniker for his return to 155 lbs. "The Dream" sounded dumb.

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Johnson vs. Moraga off for TUF 17 finale . Johnson unfortunately injured and withdrew from the fight.

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I was looking forward to that after his awesome dodson fight.

oh well

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