Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot

MessiahDecoy123 · 03-04-2013, 11:51 AM

What do you hope to see changed or improved for the Batman reboot?

Name your top five.

bullets · 03-04-2013, 12:24 PM

The main thing I want to is possible supernatural villains like Clayface , Mr. Freeze , and Poison Ivy. Done right of course.

Also no growling Bat voice. I understand why Bale did that , but I hope it doesn't become a standard.

MessiahDecoy123 · 03-04-2013, 12:31 PM

1) World Greatest Detective well shown
2) More BTAS/Arkham Asylum influence
3) Full extent of various training better implied with flashbacks
4) Better fighting scenes and no rubber suit
5) No growling Bat-voice

DeGenerate10 · 03-04-2013, 12:32 PM

With Superman being in this universe they can kinda slip away from the realism a tad and get some of the different villains in there. I would also like more detective work and sidekicks.

Abudefduf · 03-04-2013, 12:44 PM

- Bring back the scarier Batman that lurks in the shadows from BTAS, B89 and BB (or the comics, for that matter). But no over the top bat-voice.
- More supernatural and sci-fi themed villains.
- Add some sidekicks and allies to make the world feel bigger... Nightwing, Catwoman, Batgirl, Zatanna... even Green Arrow and/or Black Canary, why the hell not.
- Improve the fight scenes.
- This is supposed to be #5 but I can't think of anything else right now.

redfirebird2008 · 03-04-2013, 12:53 PM

1. Detective aspects.
2. No growling voice.
3. More fantastical villains.
4. Better fight scenes.
5. More iconic imagery.

RustyCage · 03-04-2013, 12:55 PM

The voice would be fine if they took the Begins approach and ditched the awful TDK/TDKR version.

I would like something smokier though. Keaton had an awesome voice, but I'd like something more powerful and ominous than that too.

Blend Keaton with Begins Bale and presto.

MessiahDecoy123 · 03-04-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Abudefduf

- Bring back the scarier Batman that lurks in the shadows from BTAS, B89 and BB (or the comics, for that matter). But no over the top bat-voice.
- More supernatural and sci-fi themed villains.
- Add some sidekicks and allies to make the world feel bigger... Nightwing, Catwoman, Batgirl, Zatanna... even Green Arrow and/or Black Canary, why the hell not.
- Improve the fight scenes.
- This is supposed to be #5 but I can't think of anything else right now.

You included your number 5 with your number 1 (no Bat-growl).

RustyCage · 03-04-2013, 01:28 PM

- More into his training; specifically escape artistry and slight of hand (Zatanna cameo), acting/make-up artistry, studying forensics and chemical effects.

- More detective/noir stuff.

- More of him being cloaked in shadows - including use of his cape to break up his shape and therefore seem more menacing, less obviously human, and cause bullets to miss his body more often when he's fired upon (like a bull fighter creates an illusory target for the bull to stab at).

- More iconic scenery/'Batman' moments.

- 'Less is more' approach to him speaking. Keep him mysterious, ominous, wise. Bale's Begins voice and Keaton's voice are on the right track.

Mr. Wooden Alligator · 03-04-2013, 02:27 PM

I'd like more fantastic villains and a combiation of the Beyond/Classic Batsuit. Cloth, but with the mask like the Beyond suit. It adds to the image of a creature of the night. Plus the cloth was used by ninjas all the time; why not let Batman use it here?

Lando81 · 03-04-2013, 09:58 PM

Nolan and Bale nailed it. No fixing needed.

MessiahDecoy123 · 03-04-2013, 10:20 PM

lmao

I came up with almost 20 things to fix from Nolan's bat-world after only a couple minutes.

Excelsior. · 03-04-2013, 10:58 PM

1. Detective Skillz

2. Detective Skillz

3. Detective Skillz

4. Detective Skillz

5. Detective Skillz

DarkSovereignty · 03-04-2013, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lando81

Nolan and Bale nailed it. No fixing needed.

JB-the-Hunter · 03-05-2013, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lando81

Nolan and Bale nailed it. No fixing needed.

Not quite

Ultra Nolanite · 03-05-2013, 12:33 AM

I just want him to use his grapple in mid-air. Thats all I ever wanted from a Batman movia.

But not to save his life while he's falling or anything. But more as a means of transportation like in the comics.

And I want Poison Ivy.

Gotham's Knight · 03-05-2013, 12:53 AM

-Mr. Freeze done right
-Poison Ivy done right
-Riddler done right
-Penguin done right
-Christoph Waltz. Every movie needs more of him. He should play everyone.

Shikamaru · 03-05-2013, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lando81

Nolan and Bale nailed it. No fixing needed.

There is always room for improvement in everything.

Shikamaru · 03-05-2013, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gotham's Knight

-Christoph Waltz. Every movie needs more of him. He should play everyone.

I want him as Hugo Strange

. That would be brilliant casting on par with Ledger's Joker or even superior.

echostation · 03-05-2013, 01:15 AM

more gliding, much much better fight choreography/fight scenes, using a grappling hook and being more of the acrobatic Batman that we see in the comics.

And obviously Detective skills rather than rely on Michael Background Story and info Caine to further move the story along via lame unnatural dialog.

Gotham's Knight · 03-05-2013, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shikamaru

I want him as Hugo Strange

. That would be brilliant casting on par with Ledger's Joker or even superior.

Hugo Strange would be awesome. Or maybe even as Joker himself. He might be old for the part now but if they go for an older Batman I think that Waltz could pull it off. He's got a good laugh (Inglourious Basterds) and can go from comedic to dead serious on the drop of a dime.

timothy007elena · 03-05-2013, 05:15 AM

would prefer no reboot as i believe nolans trilogy will be hard to match let alone improve on.

MessiahDecoy123 · 03-05-2013, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timothy007elena

would prefer no reboot as i believe nolans trilogy will be hard to match let alone improve on.

So no more Batman movies?

Ever?

Do you people even like the character?

RustyCage · 03-05-2013, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Nolanite

I just want him to use his grapple in mid-air. Thats all I ever wanted from a Batman movia.

But not to save his life while he's falling or anything. But more as a means of transportation like in the comics.

I thought this was one of the things they fixed. It was always awkward to me to watch Batman swinging around like Spider-Man. Keep the two separate.

The grapple was used appropriately in the Nolan/Burton films. Cape gliding is win.

Now, would I like to see them get more creative with the grapple in general? Hell yeah.

hellblazer103 · 03-05-2013, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MessiahDecoy123

So no more Batman movies?

Ever?

Do you people even like the character?

i love this post so damn much.

View Poll Results: What do you want fixed for the Batman reboot? (multiple votes allowed)
More impressive fight scenes	67	56.78%
"World's greatest detective" better displayed	84	71.19%
More imaginative villains/concepts explored	53	44.92%
More iconic imagery (Gotham/Batmobile/etc)	43	36.44%
Sidekicks included (Robin, Nightwing, Oracle)	47	39.83%
Full extent of Batman's various training better implied (flashbacks?)	20	16.95%
No growling Bat-voice	41	34.75%
Bruce is the mask, Batman is the true face	33	27.97%
Fix the suit (NO RUBBER)	29	24.58%
Fix the suit (BUT USING RUBBER AGAIN)	5	4.24%
No love interest	16	13.56%
No Lucius Fox (Batman does all the brainy work)	20	16.95%
Batman is a more shadowy and mysterious figure	35	29.66%
More BTAS influence	37	31.36%
More Arkham Asylum influence	39	33.05%
More comic book influence (70's-current)	16	13.56%
More memorable theme music	17	14.41%
Moar prep-time!!! (Batman is always a few steps ahead)	24	20.34%
All of the above	5	4.24%
other (please specify below)	11	9.32%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 118. You may not vote on this poll

03-04-2013, 11:51 AM	#1
MessiahDecoy123 Cosmic Spidey Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,177	Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot What do you hope to see changed or improved for the Batman reboot? Name your top five. __________________ "It's Transformers with a brain, a heart and a working sense of humor. Suck on that, Michael Bay! " - Peter Travers on The Avengers

03-04-2013, 12:24 PM	#2
bullets bang bang Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in the abstract Posts: 25,035	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot The main thing I want to is possible supernatural villains like Clayface , Mr. Freeze , and Poison Ivy. Done right of course. Also no growling Bat voice. I understand why Bale did that , but I hope it doesn't become a standard.

03-04-2013, 12:31 PM	#3
MessiahDecoy123 Cosmic Spidey Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,177	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot 1) World Greatest Detective well shown 2) More BTAS/Arkham Asylum influence 3) Full extent of various training better implied with flashbacks 4) Better fighting scenes and no rubber suit 5) No growling Bat-voice __________________ "It's Transformers with a brain, a heart and a working sense of humor. Suck on that, Michael Bay! " - Peter Travers on The Avengers

03-04-2013, 12:32 PM	#4
DeGenerate10 Uncle Bob? Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,609	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot With Superman being in this universe they can kinda slip away from the realism a tad and get some of the different villains in there. I would also like more detective work and sidekicks.

03-04-2013, 12:44 PM	#5
Abudefduf Custom User Title Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 455	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot - Bring back the scarier Batman that lurks in the shadows from BTAS, B89 and BB (or the comics, for that matter). But no over the top bat-voice. - More supernatural and sci-fi themed villains. - Add some sidekicks and allies to make the world feel bigger... Nightwing, Catwoman, Batgirl, Zatanna... even Green Arrow and/or Black Canary, why the hell not. - Improve the fight scenes. - This is supposed to be #5 but I can't think of anything else right now.

03-04-2013, 12:53 PM	#6
redfirebird2008 Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,910	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot 1. Detective aspects. 2. No growling voice. 3. More fantastical villains. 4. Better fight scenes. 5. More iconic imagery.

03-04-2013, 12:55 PM	#7
RustyCage Come what may.. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gotham Posts: 3,936	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot The voice would be fine if they took the Begins approach and ditched the awful TDK/TDKR version. I would like something smokier though. Keaton had an awesome voice, but I'd like something more powerful and ominous than that too. Blend Keaton with Begins Bale and presto. __________________ Why do we fall?

03-04-2013, 01:28 PM	#9
RustyCage Come what may.. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gotham Posts: 3,936	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot - More into his training; specifically escape artistry and slight of hand (Zatanna cameo), acting/make-up artistry, studying forensics and chemical effects. - More detective/noir stuff. - More of him being cloaked in shadows - including use of his cape to break up his shape and therefore seem more menacing, less obviously human, and cause bullets to miss his body more often when he's fired upon (like a bull fighter creates an illusory target for the bull to stab at). - More iconic scenery/'Batman' moments. - 'Less is more' approach to him speaking. Keep him mysterious, ominous, wise. Bale's Begins voice and Keaton's voice are on the right track. __________________ Why do we fall?

03-04-2013, 02:27 PM	#10
Mr. Wooden Alligator The White Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,831	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot I'd like more fantastic villains and a combiation of the Beyond/Classic Batsuit. Cloth, but with the mask like the Beyond suit. It adds to the image of a creature of the night. Plus the cloth was used by ninjas all the time; why not let Batman use it here? __________________ Don't let the death of the three horses be in vain-see The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey.

03-04-2013, 09:58 PM	#11
Lando81 Formerly Hazmat81 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TalkRadar Posts: 1,846	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot Nolan and Bale nailed it. No fixing needed. __________________ #SixSeasonsAndAMovie

03-04-2013, 10:20 PM	#12
MessiahDecoy123 Cosmic Spidey Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,177	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot lmao I came up with almost 20 things to fix from Nolan's bat-world after only a couple minutes. __________________ "It's Transformers with a brain, a heart and a working sense of humor. Suck on that, Michael Bay! " - Peter Travers on The Avengers Last edited by MessiahDecoy123; 03-04-2013 at 10:28 PM.

03-04-2013, 10:58 PM	#13
Excelsior. Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 9,128	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot 1. Detective Skillz 2. Detective Skillz 3. Detective Skillz 4. Detective Skillz 5. Detective Skillz __________________ "If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination." - Roger Ebert on Revenge of the Fallen.

03-05-2013, 12:33 AM	#16
Ultra Nolanite Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 776	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot I just want him to use his grapple in mid-air. Thats all I ever wanted from a Batman movia. But not to save his life while he's falling or anything. But more as a means of transportation like in the comics. And I want Poison Ivy.

03-05-2013, 12:53 AM	#17
Gotham's Knight Needs more George Carlin Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,165	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot -Mr. Freeze done right -Poison Ivy done right -Riddler done right -Penguin done right -Christoph Waltz. Every movie needs more of him. He should play everyone. __________________ My Top 10 CBMs: (1) The Dark Knight/The Dark Knight Rises (3) The Dark Knight Returns (4) Batman Begins (5) Iron Man 3 (6) Iron Man (7) X-Men 2 (8) V For Vendetta (9) Watchmen (10) X-Men

03-05-2013, 01:15 AM	#20
echostation Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 4,987	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot more gliding, much much better fight choreography/fight scenes, using a grappling hook and being more of the acrobatic Batman that we see in the comics. And obviously Detective skills rather than rely on Michael Background Story and info Caine to further move the story along via lame unnatural dialog. __________________ Shrunken Sethu - Malayali Pashtu

03-05-2013, 05:15 AM	#22
timothy007elena Newbie Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 6	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot would prefer no reboot as i believe nolans trilogy will be hard to match let alone improve on.

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