The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Captain America > Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-25-2013, 05:24 PM   #301
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 16,873
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Now why can't they announce who exactly Emily Van Camp will be playing if they give us the name of Redford's character, and Batroc too?

I imagine Batroc will probably be similar to the parkour henchman that Bond chased down in Casino Royale. As much screentime and development as that.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"

Nominate your favourite Movie theme of all time for the upcoming tournament: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=469413
Dark Raven is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:26 PM   #302
ThePowerCosmic
You are hailing!
 
ThePowerCosmic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HYDRA
Posts: 17,491
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
I love GSP to death, but his speaking voice is so bad he was dubbed over in the two martial arts B movies he appeared in.

Maybe Batroc is supposed to have a thick French accent for this. It fits the character.

__________________
2015: Avengers: Age of Ultron, Star Wars: Episode VII, Ant-Man, Daredevil, Fantastic Four

Hail HYDRA!

Thirsty? Get HYDRAted.
ThePowerCosmic is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:28 PM   #303
BullMcGiveny
Side-Kick
 
BullMcGiveny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,220
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Raven View Post
I imagine Batroc will probably be similar to the parkour henchman that Bond chased down in Casino Royale. As much screentime and development as that.
I approve of this.

BullMcGiveny is online now  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:34 PM   #304
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 34,549
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic View Post
Maybe Batroc is supposed to have a thick French accent for this. It fits the character.
It doesn't matter. They will dub him over to make him more understandable.

A lot of the original Bond actors were foreign and could speak English and they were playing foreign characters, but they were still dubbed over with English that was still accented.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is online now  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:35 PM   #305
Frico
Rollins
 
Frico's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 8,544
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Raven View Post
I imagine Batroc will probably be similar to the parkour henchman that Bond chased down in Casino Royale. As much screentime and development as that.
That's actually a very good way of looking it at.

__________________


Clint Barton wasn't exposed to any extraordinary radiation. He has no X-gene, no mystical artifacts, and no bottomless bank account. He has just practiced, every single day.

"Defeat is a state of mind; no one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality." - Bruce Lee
Frico is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:36 PM   #306
ThePowerCosmic
You are hailing!
 
ThePowerCosmic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HYDRA
Posts: 17,491
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
It doesn't matter. They will dub him over to make him more understandable.

A lot of the original Bond actors were foreign and could speak English and they were playing foreign characters, but they were still dubbed over with English that was still accented.
Okay, that would probably be the best thing to do in that case. Dub over him to make him understandable, while still having the French accent. I like it.

But what if he's not supposed to be that understandable? It could be a sort of running gag for his character. Kinda like the French Howling Commando in Cap's first movie, but unlike him, Batroc actually knows some broken english.

__________________
2015: Avengers: Age of Ultron, Star Wars: Episode VII, Ant-Man, Daredevil, Fantastic Four

Hail HYDRA!

Thirsty? Get HYDRAted.
ThePowerCosmic is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:39 PM   #307
DarthMuppet
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 154
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Raven View Post
Now why can't they announce who exactly Emily Van Camp will be playing if they give us the name of Redford's character, and Batroc too?
Keep in mind, none of those have been officially confirmed by Marvel either.

DarthMuppet is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:41 PM   #308
xeno000
Raining hell from above
 
xeno000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Knowhere
Posts: 7,121
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny View Post
There's also Maria Hill, and Jasper Sitwell. Both claim to have larger roles than in the Avengers.

Plus flashbacks with Howard Stark and Peggy Carter.

At this point I think the best hope is that movie runs 2 hours and 30 minutes long.
No disrespect to the actors, but it wouldn't take much for Hill and Sitwell to have expanded roles. More than ten lines of dialog would do it. Also, we've seen actors boast about having larger roles before and it's turned out to be an exaggeration in some cases.

xeno000 is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:42 PM   #309
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 34,549
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic View Post
Okay, that would probably be the best thing to do in that case. Dub over him to make him understandable, while still having the French accent. I like it.

But what if he's not supposed to be that understandable? It could be a sort of running gag for his character. Kinda like the French Howling Commando in Cap's first movie, but unlike him, Batroc actually knows some broken english.
Because Batroc has always spoken in like the stereotypical French version of English.

It is also very possible Batroc won't speak at all.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk

Last edited by TheVileOne; 03-25-2013 at 05:52 PM.
TheVileOne is online now  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:46 PM   #310
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 16,873
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Shame that Gordon Kaye of 'Allo 'Allo isn't alive anymore. He could've dubbed over Batroc.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"

Nominate your favourite Movie theme of all time for the upcoming tournament: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=469413
Dark Raven is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:47 PM   #311
ThePowerCosmic
You are hailing!
 
ThePowerCosmic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HYDRA
Posts: 17,491
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
Because Batroc has always spoken in like the stereotypical French version of English.

Right, but he could be changed for the movie. If he's still speaking in English with a thick french accent, albeit broken, it would get the same point across but also make it a type of running gag.

They make changes to the characters all of the time for these MCU movies, and something like that wouldn't hurt the character imo. It could happen.

__________________
2015: Avengers: Age of Ultron, Star Wars: Episode VII, Ant-Man, Daredevil, Fantastic Four

Hail HYDRA!

Thirsty? Get HYDRAted.
ThePowerCosmic is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:49 PM   #312
JB-the-Hunter
Hunter of weaklings
 
JB-the-Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,666
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
It doesn't matter. They will dub him over to make him more understandable.

A lot of the original Bond actors were foreign and could speak English and they were playing foreign characters, but they were still dubbed over with English that was still accented.
They're not going to freaking dub him over. They cast someone French so he could speak French or with a French accent.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
I'm not talking about popularity either, I'm talking about how developed the characters were in the comics. And why wouldn't it make any sense? Crossbones originally worked with the commies in the comics IIRC, just like Winter Soldier.
It wouldn't make any sense because Crossbones is an extremely physical villain played by an american actor. He won't have any time to be doing any behind the scenes stuff because he's going to be busy fighting Captain America. Not to mention the fact that the "main" villain will either be Russian like in the comics or connected to HYDRA. Crossbones just doesn't fit the role of big bad at all.

__________________
Natasha Romanoff - "Are you boys really that naive? S.H.I.E.L.D. monitors potential threats."

Bruce Banner - "Captain America is on threat watch?"

Natasha Romanoff - "We all are."

Last edited by JB-the-Hunter; 03-25-2013 at 05:53 PM.
JB-the-Hunter is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:50 PM   #313
Wolvieboy17
Believe it!
 
Wolvieboy17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 11,094
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Lets not forget Winter Soldier himself as a villain. When the central story revolves around a hero/villain/anti-hero type struggle, stacking the deck with too many villains might not be super wise.

__________________
Big Head Mode
Big games. Big reviews. Big mouths.
Wolvieboy17 is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:50 PM   #314
ThePowerCosmic
You are hailing!
 
ThePowerCosmic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HYDRA
Posts: 17,491
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB-the-Hunter View Post
They're not going to freaking dub him over. They cast someone French so he could speak French or with a French accent.

That's what I was thinking.

__________________
2015: Avengers: Age of Ultron, Star Wars: Episode VII, Ant-Man, Daredevil, Fantastic Four

Hail HYDRA!

Thirsty? Get HYDRAted.
ThePowerCosmic is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 05:52 PM   #315
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 16,873
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Maybe they could get Jean Paul Gaultier to come in and design Batroc's costume, and while he's at it, dub over him as well.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"

Nominate your favourite Movie theme of all time for the upcoming tournament: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=469413
Dark Raven is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:01 PM   #316
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 34,549
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB-the-Hunter View Post
They're not going to freaking dub him over. They cast someone French so he could speak French or with a French accent.
They didn't cast someone French actually. GSP is French Canadian.

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:


DISNEY WILL OVERDUB THAT!

Quote:
It wouldn't make any sense because Crossbones is an extremely physical villain played by an american actor. He won't have any time to be doing any behind the scenes stuff because he's going to be busy fighting Captain America. Not to mention the fact that the "main" villain will either be Russian like in the comics or connected to HYDRA. Crossbones just doesn't fit the role of big bad at all.
What it comes down to in these movies these characters usually speak very little or have little to say.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is online now  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:06 PM   #317
Hunter Rider
Ronin
SHH! Administrator
 
Hunter Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Manuel
Posts: 132,888
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

If his nickname is 'The Leaper" I imagine some sort of parkour chase with him and Cap.

__________________
thinkmcflythink.com
Movie fans, hop in your Delorean and check it out!

"Now this life is etched in black but I wont be looking back, the rain washed out the tracks, I'll never find again"

Hunter Rider is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:09 PM   #318
Chewy
REDACTED
 
Chewy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,016
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB-the-Hunter View Post
It wouldn't make any sense because Crossbones is an extremely physical villain played by an american actor. He won't have any time to be doing any behind the scenes stuff because he's going to be busy fighting Captain America. Not to mention the fact that the "main" villain will either be Russian like in the comics or connected to HYDRA. Crossbones just doesn't fit the role of big bad at all.
Crossbones' entire look and alter-ego is inspired by Red Skull. He will presumably be involved in HYDRA like the Skull was.

Chewy is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:12 PM   #319
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 16,873
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Batroc might not speak any english at all. He might be a purely French-speaking villain who might shout things in French at Cap, but Rogers won't ultimately bother with what he's saying because he just has to fight him/ chase him.

If there is a parkour chase, then why didn't they get that parkour guy Sebastien Foucan from Casino Royale? He's the founder of parkour. Is GSR actually a parkour guy or just a fighter?

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"

Nominate your favourite Movie theme of all time for the upcoming tournament: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=469413
Dark Raven is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:22 PM   #320
J'adore
Vous
 
J'adore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: London
Posts: 1,396
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

I just wanna know how they will work Sharon (if that is who Emily is playing). Will she be a SHIELD agent? Since the movie-world is quite different to comics, the execs might not want another unrealistically attractive looking SHILED agent (save that for the abc show). Who knows?

__________________
I'M WIDE AWAKE.
J'adore is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:27 PM   #321
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 16,873
Wink Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by J'adore View Post
I just wanna know how they will work Sharon (if that is who Emily is playing). Will she be a SHIELD agent? Since the movie-world is quite different to comics, the execs might not want another unrealistically attractive looking SHILED agent (save that for the abc show). Who knows?
She's not unrealistically attractive, since even in the movies, all SHIELD women are hot. That would just make her average since they would know no different.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"

Nominate your favourite Movie theme of all time for the upcoming tournament: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=469413
Dark Raven is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:28 PM   #322
Chewy
REDACTED
 
Chewy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,016
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Raven View Post
Batroc might not speak any english at all. He might be a purely French-speaking villain who might shout things in French at Cap, but Rogers won't ultimately bother with what he's saying because he just has to fight him/ chase him.

If there is a parkour chase, then why didn't they get that parkour guy Sebastien Foucan from Casino Royale? He's the founder of parkour. Is GSR actually a parkour guy or just a fighter?
I don't know if he's done any parkour but he's a black belt in a bunch of different martial arts, and his training regiment is super diverse. I'm pretty sure he's really good at gymnastics, too. The guy is just ridiculously fit, haha

Chewy is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:36 PM   #323
RockSP
MYTH SMITH ∞!!!
 
RockSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 10,180
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Raven View Post
Batroc might not speak any english at all. He might be a purely French-speaking villain who might shout things in French at Cap, but Rogers won't ultimately bother with what he's saying because he just has to fight him/ chase him.
That's what I was thinking. I think Brubaker had him strictly speaking French is his appearance in the comic during his run.

Quote:
If there is a parkour chase, then why didn't they get that parkour guy Sebastien Foucan from Casino Royale? He's the founder of parkour. Is GSR actually a parkour guy or just a fighter?
Batroc isn't black. Comic book movies never change the race of a character.

__________________
It's not Marvel and DC's place to create our stories. We create our stories. --Dwayne McDuffie

https://www.facebook.com/pages/MYTH-...31161003585134
RockSP is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:37 PM   #324
ThePowerCosmic
You are hailing!
 
ThePowerCosmic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HYDRA
Posts: 17,491
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
They didn't cast someone French actually. GSP is French Canadian.

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:


DISNEY WILL OVERDUB THAT!
Wow... from the way you made it seem, this guy couldn't speak English without his thick French making it difficult for him to understand. You can easily understand what he's saying in the vid you posted, and now I'm actually more confident they won't dub over his accent.


Seriously, there's no reason to dub this guy's accent.

__________________
2015: Avengers: Age of Ultron, Star Wars: Episode VII, Ant-Man, Daredevil, Fantastic Four

Hail HYDRA!

Thirsty? Get HYDRAted.
ThePowerCosmic is offline  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:37 PM   #325
BullMcGiveny
Side-Kick
 
BullMcGiveny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,220
Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by J'adore View Post
I just wanna know how they will work Sharon (if that is who Emily is playing). Will she be a SHIELD agent? Since the movie-world is quite different to comics, the execs might not want another unrealistically attractive looking SHILED agent (save that for the abc show). Who knows?
It'd be a huge disservice if they made her a civilian.

BullMcGiveny is online now  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46 PM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.