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Old 04-02-2013, 07:03 PM   #701
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REALLY liking that art with Cap vs Bucky. Made my day. It's interesting that Bucky doesn't have the domino mask...but if that's the route they're going I'm totally cool with that. The half mask actually makes him look more assassin like. Exciting stuff.

I figured Falcon would have a look similar to his Ultimates one. Even if it's concept art he looks pretty badass.

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REALLY liking that art with Cap vs Bucky. Made my day. It's interesting that Bucky doesn't have the domino mask...but if that's the route they're going I'm totally cool with that. The half mask actually makes him look more assassin like. Exciting stuff.

I figured Falcon would have a look similar to his Ultimates one. Even if it's concept art he looks pretty badass.
I think it was Feige or maybe even Mackie that said they'd be going with more of the Ultimate Falcon look. I do hope they do add some color to it so he's not such a drab looking hero.

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Old 04-02-2013, 07:13 PM   #703
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Maybe we could get some colour in Falcon's outfit, but I seriously doubt we'll get anything resembling a costume. Probably another 'Hawkeye' style outfit I imagine.

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Old 04-02-2013, 07:16 PM   #704
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Love both concept art, especially Falcon's. Seems odd we've gotten 3-4 concept art pieces for CA2 but really nothing for Thor 2.
Thor 2 had its own behind the scenes footage, doesn't exactly need much concept art.

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Probably another 'Hawkeye' style outfit I imagine.
That's pretty much what I expect. Probably a black and red jumpsuit with goggles/shades for flying.

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The other heroes are soon going to turn into the equivalent of Bryan Singer's leather clad X-Men.

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Yeah, you can thank the Ultimates for that. lol

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Old 04-02-2013, 07:46 PM   #708
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I really like a lot of those pics. Does anyone have a high res version of the cap vs ws one?

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Just adding to the chorus that (a) the latest WS pic looks too much like New Goblin; and (b) Falcon looks cool, but they could infuse some red (and maybe even white) in there to be less, you know, boring black, and pay some homage to the original comics as well.

Conceptually, they're good ideas; but WS needs to look *a lot* less like New Goblin; and Falcon could use more than just basic black. The wings are awesome, though. Can't wait to see him in action.

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I think the goggles look pretty cool. Would be nice to see them on without the face mask. The WS concept has potential, but I think they still need to touch it up a bit so it has some more colour and doesn't look like Harry from SM3 so much.

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Well I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with Winter Soldiers look in that concept art, I actually really like it. I mean it's definitely a badass look. It's just that that look was totally wrong for new Gobby and now when we see someone wearing something similar (which in and of it self is a cool look mind you) we are reminded of new Gob. This is just one of the many terrible things Spiderman 3 has done to this world.

This look is far more fitting for a soldier/assassin type like WS.

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Old 04-02-2013, 08:04 PM   #712
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Balaclava's are apart of standard military uniform in the Russian special task force (OMON). Marvel is being socially accurate here. Don't get the New Goblin criticisms.

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Regardless of them getting the standard Russian military uniform right or whatever, he still resembles New Goblin.

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Yeah, I don't like that generic soldier with wings ****. If Cap can wear a blue costume, Falcon can wear a red one.

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I think they both look great.

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What are the chances they go with that design? I'd say less likely than getting this one:
Is it too much to ask for both?

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Falcon with red photoshopped onto his wings.



I really hope they end up doing this. I have to admit it looks 10x better even though I didn't have problem with it originally.

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Regardless of them getting the standard Russian military uniform right or whatever, he still resembles New Goblin.
Yes...but it sounds like people are criticizing the look for being "too much like NewGoblin" which doesn't make sense.

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Sure WS looks similar to Harry in SM3, but frankly, it fits this character more than it fit "New Goblin" (). Don't take issue with this movie using it now, take issue with SM3 using it then.

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I really hope they end up doing this. I have to admit it looks 10x better even though I didn't have problem with it originally.


Yes...but it sounds like people are criticizing the look for being "too much like NewGoblin" which doesn't make sense.
Great color change for Falcon's wings.


I mean, it really does look similar to New Goblin, though. It makes sense because we all know how he looked in SM3, so I think the critiquing is valid. That doesn't change the fact that WS is supposed to look that way, though. It's just that SM3 handled New Goblin's look wrong, and WS has to pay for it even though they are doing something right.


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That actually makes sense.

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Are those guns falcon is holding attached to the wings?
Don't know, but it would make sense. They need to give him some kinda offensive capabilities.

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Mini turrets should be stored where his nipples are. No hands required. In times of danger, they slide out, take aim and get to firing.

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Great color change for Falcon's wings.


I mean, it really does look similar to New Goblin, though. It makes sense because we all know how he looked in SM3, so I think the critiquing is valid. That doesn't change the fact that WS is supposed to look that way, though. It's just that SM3 handled New Goblin's look wrong, and WS has to pay for it even though they are doing something right.
Yeah it's just stupid to me lol.

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Mini turrets should be stored where his nipples are. No hands required. In times of danger, they slide out, take aim and get to firing.
Not bullets, though. Bird poo.

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Not bullets, though. Bird poo.

You're right. Don't know what the hell I was thinking.

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From a narrative stand-point, I've got to say I strongly think the audience isn't meant to know who Winter Soldier is until a ways into the film. The fanboys will know and those who read articles will know. But, I think it's designed to be a surprise for the total mass audience when that mask is taken off. And if not just the audience, then for Cap -- Cap can't see any of his former partner in there, so it works to conceal his identity from Cap.

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Exactly right, Ultimatehero.

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