The Amazing Spider-Man 2 General Discussion - Part 4

[UltimateWebhead]

Originally Posted by Vid Electricz

That's why he pushed so hard for it. He identifies with it.

[Vid Electricz]

Originally Posted by WesMan

This is the least accurate statement regarding TASM that I've seen yet

Oh that's cool. Why?

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Arad gets way too much hate.

[Smegger56]

Originally Posted by Vid Electricz

I love that you state these figures like they're factual.

What's a pity is that people don't seem to understand what happens when a director with a great creative vision and track record is forced by the studio to rework his vision from the ground up by incorporating an element (the symbiote) into the script that wasn't originally there. If you've ever written fiction/a story/a script then you'd understand how difficult that would be, especially under massive time constraints.

Whatever people think about the dancing or whatever is not the problem, it's the clunky, slapped together, made by committee script.





TASM did NOT get it right. lol. Terrible, slapped together script.

I missed the part where Arad wrote and directed his own series of hit movies? Remind me about that part please.

Arad is like a parastic creature that latches on to a much stronger creature for survival. That's the only way his kind survive. He doesn't have a creative bone in his body. Just listen to him talk.

For a slapped together script, it was a pretty damn good film IMO. This film got the characterization of... the characters down more than the first lot.

Is it a perfect film? No. But the positives far outweight the negatives IMO.

[webhead9707]

If I blocked Vid Electricz and WesMan, I think this thread would be at least 3 pages shorter..

[Vid Electricz]

Originally Posted by GENERAL RAAM582

Arad gets way too much hate.

Remember when you'd have to do a group or partner project in school and there was always one kid who didn't contribute anything- and if he did, his ideas were terrible? Then once you had finished working hard on the project he would still gladly take credit for it, lying through his teeth and saying whatever he needed to make it look like he did something?

Well, that kid is Arad in a nutshell.

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Do we know this for sure?

[Vid Electricz]

Originally Posted by webhead9707

If I blocked Vid Electricz and WesMan, I think this thread would be at least 3 pages shorter..

Do it. DO IT.

[Smegger56]

Originally Posted by GENERAL RAAM582

Do we know this for sure?

I can believe he pushed for Venom. He was talking about it like nuts in the build up to release I believe.

[Vid Electricz]

Originally Posted by GENERAL RAAM582

Do we know this for sure?

Watch/read some interviews with the guy. He's the typical money grubbing empty headed exec. He has no idea what he's talking about and what he does say has zero content. The man is a leech.

[webhead9707]

Originally Posted by Vid Electricz

Do it. DO IT.

Haha, I don't block anyone.

That reminds me of Star Wars episode 3..

[Vid Electricz]

Originally Posted by Smegger56

For a slapped together script, it was a pretty damn good film IMO. This film got the characterization of... the characters down more than the first lot.

Is it a perfect film? No. But the positives far outweight the negatives IMO.

See, I thought Spider-Man got the characterization down more than TASM. Funny how opinions work.

I'm not talking about superficial stuff like that. I'm talking about actual story structure, character arcs, etc... TASM was just an incomplete movie. Dangling, unfinished story AND character arcs means a sloppy, hacked together movie- and the awful editing didn't help. Though the deleted scenes added almost nothing to the movie.

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Originally Posted by Smegger56

I can believe he pushed for Venom. He was talking about it like nuts in the build up to release I believe.

Yeah, I know about the Venom thing. Raimi wrote that script, it's not incredibly hard to make a good movie with Venom. And honestly, Venom wasn't the worse thing about that movie.

[Vid Electricz]

Originally Posted by webhead9707

Haha, I don't block anyone.

That reminds me of Star Wars episode 3..

[Vid Electricz]

Originally Posted by GENERAL RAAM582

Yeah, I know about the Venom thing. Raimi wrote that script, it's not incredibly hard to make a good movie with Venom. And honestly, Venom wasn't the worse thing about that movie.

No, but it is incredibly hard to have to rewrite your entire script, starting from the ground up to incorporate a brand new element that is pervasive throughout the entire story.

Have you guys ever written before? You act like it's no big deal to just "add Venom in". lol. lol.

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I was under the impression that when they started the script that Venom would be in it. I didn't know that they had the script completely finished and he said, "Oh, how about some Venom!"

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

Should I blame Chris Nolan if MOS turns out be bad?

Since he also had a dab in creating the story, yes, he should definitely be given as much blame as the director.

But so far, it doesn't seem like MOS will be bad at all considering the reviews of the film already.

Originally Posted by WesMan

This is the least accurate statement regarding TASM that I've seen yet

Such a massive Webbhead.

[Johnny]

I have no problem with Arad. Not to mention his accent is hilarious lol.

[Oscorp]

Why do people on both sides talk as if their opinion about a movie is fact?

[SpideyK]

Originally Posted by I AN LEGEND

They're shooting at Peter's house today, if the weather permits.

Cool. Source?
Seriously, I'm interested.

[Nicko-Ray]

Originally Posted by SpideyK

Cool. Source?
Seriously, I'm interested.

I think real early on in the week or last week, it might've been onlocationvacation that stated they'll be filming at "peter's old house" today. The one in TASM.

[SpideyK]

Originally Posted by Nickoray

I think real early on in the week or last week, it might've been onlocationvacation that stated they'll be filming at "peter's old house" today. The one in TASM.

Hm, this one?

http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2...n-on-thursday/

[Creator]

I love this pic for some reason.

[mayo23]

Originally Posted by Joe_Kickass

Yeah, and this MJ appears to be a cashier. That place is a sandwich shop, and typically sandwich shops don't have waiters, considering it specializes in one thing and looks like a sleeker more modern Subway or something.

I think she's more likely to be a waitress. The facade may give it modern look, but Eisenberg Sandwich's is an old school Jewish sandwhich shop dating back to the 1930s. These places are generally gastronomical and are known for things like pastrami. At least from my experience, these old sandwich shops operate like any diner.

[Smegger56]

Originally Posted by Vid Electricz

See, I thought Spider-Man got the characterization down more than TASM. Funny how opinions work.

I'm not talking about superficial stuff like that. I'm talking about actual story structure, character arcs, etc... TASM was just an incomplete movie. Dangling, unfinished story AND character arcs means a sloppy, hacked together movie- and the awful editing didn't help. Though the deleted scenes added almost nothing to the movie.

I wouldn't say characterization was superficial. I think that is a very important part of a film. And we also disagree about the Raimi spidey characterization (surprise lol).

The story structure was fine. The movie is not meant to tell all in one film. It's gonna take its time over a few. There is nothing wrong with this approach to film making. Hell, even books, TV shows and comics spread character arcs and stories.

And what is so aweful about the editing? I do agree there are moments where the editing does seem a little sloppy. But I don't think it's as bad as made out.