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Old 03-18-2013, 08:09 AM   #626
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This is what I got from Chewy, who I think got it from the boxoffice.com site: For a while now we've known that Mandarin's rings aren't alien, and don't have any powers. Black and Feige and co have described him as this ex-military guy who went a nuts along the way, is obsessed with Sun Tzu, and crafted the Mandarin persona. So the question we've all been asking is: If Ben Kingsley's Mandarin is the villain of the movie, and he doesn't have any powers, how do you stage a big third act with a bunch of suits of armor around that?

And the answer is apparent that he isn't, and you don't. Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian is the villain, was from the beginning. He uses the Mandarin as his mouthpiece/symbol/distraction, and Mandarin dies during the movie.

So that's the spoiler, and it makes sense with what we know - Killian funnels out the Extremis soldiers, and the third act will presumably be Tony and Rhodey and all those suits versus Killian and his soldiers in that warehouse. And you can have a third act that involves the big villain in the big fight, as Killian will presumably inject himself with it too.


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Old 03-18-2013, 08:13 AM   #627
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Guy said his role was cameo stuff really , we all knew that was a lie

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Old 03-18-2013, 08:23 AM   #628
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Not surprised by those spoilers at all. I kinda guessed that after the 2nd trailer.
Can we not call that a "spoiler". It conflicts with other "spoilers" that have been posted in the past.

Also another "spoiler" that was posted on toonzone.net lol:

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/enter...ml#post4095924

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Richard Rider is supposedly in the movie somehow.


Honestly, I'm to the point not where I'm not believing any of this stuff until the movie is released. We've had several spoilers posted and they conflict directly with that post on boxoffice.

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Old 03-18-2013, 08:27 AM   #629
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Regarding the Toonzone stuff maybe at one point all those 'cameos' would've been thrown around but that's way too many to have in a film. Half of them are connections we'd like to make but they most likely won't be.

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I pray Richard Rider isn't in the film. He's great and I think he deserves his own film. He definitely shouldn't be shoehorned into GOTG. So far the only spoiler I've heard regarding other characters showing up that makes sense is Peter Quill.

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Also regarding that new"spoiler", the rumors it conflicts with matches up with the time Marvel held that Iron Man 3 screening right before the Super Bowl, so I'm much more inclined to believe them than some guy randomly posting that now.

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Old 03-18-2013, 08:31 AM   #631
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Also regarding that new"spoiler", the rumors it conflicts with matches up with the time Marvel held that Iron Man 3 screening right before the Super Bowl, so I'm much more inclined to believe them than some guy randomly posting that now.


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This was actually confirmed by The Hollywood Reporter when Kingsley was first cast:

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This was actually confirmed by The Hollywood Reporter when Kingsley was first cast:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...favreau-309693
That doesn't confirm this rumor honestly, they didn't even know he was playing the Mandarin.

Also, concerning that Richard Rider rumor, some kid named Bridger Zadina is listed as playing a character named Richie in Iron Man 3. Short for Richard Rider?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2940293/

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I'm not sure if you want me to explain it to you or not.

I would like you to explain it actually

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That doesn't confirm this rumor honestly, they didn't even know he was playing the Mandarin.
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First of all that's IMDB, secondly he meets a kid in the garage so couldn't that be Bridger Zadina?

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IMDB is use updated...hell they keep changing Stephanie's role there all the time...for Janet to Bethany etc...

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First of all that's IMDB, secondly he meets a kid in the garage so couldn't that be Bridger Zadina?
we already know the garage kid is Ty "Harley"

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we already know the garage kid is Ty "Harley"
Fair enough, point still stands about IMDB though.

If it's Richard Rider it'd be my first complaint for a MS movie.

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JGL has a surprise cameo.

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I would like you to explain it actually
There was an Iron Man 3 screening right before the Super Bowl and spoilers were posted right during that time that conflict with this. One of them was poster directly on this forum.

http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=699
http://forums.superherohype.com/show...65&postcount=6

These spoilers conflict directly with Mandarin's rings not being powered as well as just not matching up logistically with Aldrich being the main villain.

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That does not confirm that Aldrich is the brains of the entire operating. Of course Aldrich is brains in general, because he is the one who sold them the Extremis virus and handles most of the Mandarin's technical stuff.

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Yes, I know that, I was just pointing it out.

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All I can say is that if Mandarin is not the Main Villian, I think I will be crushed. The Trailer puts it's emphasis on the Mandarin through it's voice overs and the fact that he seems to have a larger presence in the trailers, so I am really hoping this report / rumor is wrong. Everyone knows the Mandarin is Iron Man's nemesis in the comics and you don't turn a characters nemesis into a lackey for another villian that played a much smaller role in Iron Man's stories. Once again if true, I think I will be severely disappointed, so hoping it's not true.


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This is what I got from Chewy, who I think got it from the boxoffice.com site: For a while now we've known that Mandarin's rings aren't alien, and don't have any powers. Black and Feige and co have described him as this ex-military guy who went a nuts along the way, is obsessed with Sun Tzu, and crafted the Mandarin persona. So the question we've all been asking is: If Ben Kingsley's Mandarin is the villain of the movie, and he doesn't have any powers, how do you stage a big third act with a bunch of suits of armor around that?

And the answer is apparent that he isn't, and you don't. Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian is the villain, was from the beginning. He uses the Mandarin as his mouthpiece/symbol/distraction, and Mandarin dies during the movie.

So that's the spoiler, and it makes sense with what we know - Killian funnels out the Extremis soldiers, and the third act will presumably be Tony and Rhodey and all those suits versus Killian and his soldiers in that warehouse. And you can have a third act that involves the big villain in the big fight, as Killian will presumably inject himself with it too.
Based on what I know, I'd say this this is close to it but not the whole truth.

Because the info I have heard (and you guys probably know this if you read the large list of spoilers that leaked almost a month ago) says that....

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The Mandarin does not die.

Killian is infact injected with the Extremis virus and is it is him and the other Extremis power guys (random extremis soldiers as well as firepower and coldblood) who fight Tony, and the other Extremis powered goons in the end.

The Mandarin's rings are NOT purely cosmetic. They ARE actually magic/technological hybrid. The rocks are of a cosmic/magical origin, and the rings themselves are a harness for the energies.

Tony does infact face Mandarin at the end with the extremis-less REVISITED ARMOR, which is a revised version of the Mark I.




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Old 03-18-2013, 09:34 AM   #644
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Now that I'm rereading those spoilers that were posted last month, I have a very hard time believing that new one over them. They match up perfectly with everything we've learned about the film and match up perfectly with each other as well, on top of being posted in the same timeframe as that screening Marvel held.

Don't know about everyone else but I'm believing them over this new one.

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There was an Iron Man 3 screening right before the Super Bowl and spoilers were posted right during that time that conflict with this. One of them was poster directly on this forum.

http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=699
http://forums.superherohype.com/show...65&postcount=6

These spoilers conflict directly with Mandarin's rings not being powered as well as just not matching up logistically with Aldrich being the main villain.


That does not confirm that Aldrich is the brains of the entire operating. Of course Aldrich is brains in general, because he is the one who sold them the Extremis virus and handles most of the Mandarin's technical stuff.


Yes, I know that, I was just pointing it out.
Some of the spoilers in that we already know to be untrue from the second trailer and from marvel's website....

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I'll say that I hope the previous rumors turn out to be true over this new one. Maaaan, I do NOT want what they're implying.

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Can you imagine Joker or Lex Luthor or Loki being set up as a lackey in their first movies? They're the series' nemesis. I get that movies don't necessarily have to match up with the comics--and I'm totally fine with change--but this unnecessarily neuters a major villain for the purpose of a twist ending. Here's hoping it's BS.

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Now that I'm rereading those spoilers that were posted last month, I have a very hard time believing that new one over them. They match up perfectly with everything we've learned about the film and match up perfectly with each other as well, on top of being posted in the same timeframe as that screening Marvel held.

Don't know about everyone else but I'm believing them over this new one.

Ummmm after a just a quick glance over both those posts we already know at least 3 of them are untrue.... you are deluded dude, the new spoiler may not be true but some of those old ones are BS too

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Can some of yall not alude directly to it without spoiler tags? Even if you're using an actor's quote to do it. I'm 100% positive that there are people who are reading this thread that won't want to know

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Can some of yall not elude directly to it without spoiler tags? Even if you're using an actor's quote to do it. I'm 100% positive that there are people who are reading this thread that won't want to know

sorry about that, didn't know that interview quote would be regarded as spoiler

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There was an Iron Man 3 screening right before the Super Bowl and spoilers were posted right during that time that conflict with this. One of them was poster directly on this forum.

http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=699
http://forums.superherohype.com/show...65&postcount=6

These spoilers conflict directly with Mandarin's rings not being powered as well as just not matching up logistically with Aldrich being the main villain.


That does not confirm that Aldrich is the brains of the entire operating. Of course Aldrich is brains in general, because he is the one who sold them the Extremis virus and handles most of the Mandarin's technical stuff.


Yes, I know that, I was just pointing it out.
You can forget about that. The second trailer debunked all of this when it showed that the 40 armors were NOT all the same color scheme and essentially multiple versions of the Mark XLII.

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