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Old 05-23-2013, 03:56 PM   #951
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Leo in Star Wars sounds too good to be true.

What about a "cult star" like Bruce Campbell, or Marc Singer, or Kyle MacLachlan, or Michael Biehn, in a supporting role?

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What if the bad guy is bad because he wanted to be a Jedi,but he doesn't have the force in him.So he trains in lightsaber fighting,has gauntlets that have anti-gravity tech so he can force choke people,etc.

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Man if Leo did this. Holy ****.

I think it would be great for him as well. He needs some fun stuff like this. Django was a good step in the right direction.

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Weren't there rumors that Leo was gonna be Anakin in the prequels?
yeah i heard this too.

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Weren't there rumors that Leo was gonna be Anakin in the prequels?
Yes, and fans screamed against it. Funny how things go years later...

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What if the bad guy is bad because he wanted to be a Jedi,but he doesn't have the force in him.So he trains in lightsaber fighting,has gauntlets that have anti-gravity tech so he can force choke people,etc.
That genuinely sounds really cool (as long as you find away around the Jedi immediately crushing his tech with the genuine force powers).

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What if the bad guy is bad because he wanted to be a Jedi,but he doesn't have the force in him.So he trains in lightsaber fighting,has gauntlets that have anti-gravity tech so he can force choke people,etc.
haha that actually sounds pretty sweet. I'd be down with that.

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Yes, and fans screamed against it. Funny how things go years later...
Stupid people were still attaching that nonsense pretty boy label to him at the time, I guess mainly because of Titanic.

I'd largely like JJ to stay away from really big names for this but in Leo's case I'd definitely make an exception.

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I don't' think having a few big names is a bad thing, but ya for the main characters for the most part I would prefer less known people. (but in the end get the best for the role). I mean even Star Wars had some big names, to us now they seem big "because of Star Wars" but in reality they were big then too. I mean Alec was a legend, and a big profile guy. So I don't think it's bad as long as the role is filled correctly.

But I agree for the main characters it would be nice to have less known people.

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I don't' think having a few big names is a bad thing, but ya for the main characters for the most part I would prefer less known people. (but in the end get the best for the role). I mean even Star Wars had some big names, to us now they seem big "because of Star Wars" but in reality they were big then too. I mean Alec was a legend, and a big profile guy. So I don't think it's bad as long as the role is filled correctly.

But I agree for the main characters it would be nice to have less known people.

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So when do you guys think we'll hear more casting news?

I think that Disney will officially announce the casting of Hamill, Fisher, and Ford during the Star Wars Celebration this August.

Then I think the casting of the female lead will be the first will follow hopefully by the Fall. Actually I would be SHOCKED if they announced it at Celebration as well! If that were to happen, it would be an actress who is an up and commer but not a complete unknown (ala Jake Lloyd).

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It would be nice to have Gary Cole in a role.

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Good God. "Lego" and "actual size" are my two favourite things!

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What if the bad guy is bad because he wanted to be a Jedi,but he doesn't have the force in him.So he trains in lightsaber fighting,has gauntlets that have anti-gravity tech so he can force choke people,etc.
He would still be unshielded by a jedi's force powers, unless he carries an ysalamir(not sure it that's the correct spelling) with him at all times. And maybe even some kind of shield from the material that can withstand lightsabers (I can't remember the name at the moment) to even out the odds a bit.

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So when do you guys think we'll hear more casting news?

I think that Disney will officially announce the casting of Hamill, Fisher, and Ford during the Star Wars Celebration this August.

Then I think the casting of the female lead will be the first will follow hopefully by the Fall. Actually I would be SHOCKED if they announced it at Celebration as well! If that were to happen, it would be an actress who is an up and commer but not a complete unknown (ala Jake Lloyd).
I was hoping they would announce something during the first week of Star Wars Weekends at Disney World, but sadly they didn't. With Kathleen Kennedy supposedly going to be at Star Wars celebrations, it seems like we'll get some sort of info there. Possibly even a teaser poster.

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The no Force thing is not a good idea. It's too complicate for something that should not be. We don't need any of that kind of stuff. The true conflict should be between good and evil not with a secondary conflict that the villain is trying to make up for lack of power. However Lucas did say in '81 in that latest transcript to Kasdan that everyone can access the Force. It just takes lots of practice and some can attain it easier then others. So someone not having the Force really does not make sense since everyone technically has it flowing through them.

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Lucas said that? Bless him. The whole idea of the Force being a bloodright was repellent.

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Here's the transcript from the new upcoming BHS book of ROTJ that talks a little about the prequels back in '81.

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Lucas: Anakin Skywalker starting hanging out with the Emperor, who at this point nobody knew was that bad, because he was an elected official.

Kasdan: Was he a Jedi?

Lucas: No, he was a politician. Richard M. Nixon was his name. He subverted the senate and finally took over and became an imperial guy and he was really evil. But he pretended to be a really nice guy. He sucked Lukeís father into the dark side.

Kasdan: The Force was available to anyone who could hook into it?

Lucas: Yes, everybody can do it.

Kasdan: Not just the Jedi?

Lucas: Itís just the Jedi who take the time to do it.

Marquand: They use it as a technique.

Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate. Also another misconception is that Yoda teaches Jedi, but he is like a guru; he doesnít go out and fight anybody.

Kasdan: A Jedi Master is a Jedi isnít he?

Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?

Kasdan: I understand what youíre saying, but I canít believe it; I am in shock.

Lucas: Itís true, absolutely true, not that it makes any difference to the story.

Kasdan: You mean he wouldnít be any good in a fight?

Lucas: Not with Darth Vader he wouldnít.

Kasdan: I accept it, but I donít like it.

Lucas: Well, anyway, Lukeís father gets subverted by the Emperor. He gets a little weird at home and his wife begins to figure out that things are going wrong and she confides in Ben, who is his mentor. On his missions through the galaxies, Anakin has been going off doing his Jedi thing and a lot of Jedi have been getting killedóand itís because they turn their back on him and he cuts them down. The president is turning into an Emperor and Lukeís mother suspects that something has happened to her husband. She is pregnant. Anakin gets worse and worse, and finally Ben has to fight him and he throws him down into a volcano and Vader is all beat up.

Now, when he falls into the pit, his other arm goes and his leg and there is hardly anything left of him by the time the Emperorís troops fish him out of the drink. Then when Ben finds out that Vader has been fished out and is in the hands of the Empire, he is worried about it. He goes back to Vaderís wife and explains that Anakin is the bad guy, the one killing all the Jedi.

When he goes back his wife, Mrs. Skywalker has had the kids, the twins, so she has these two little babies who are six months old or so. So everybody has to go into hiding. The Skywalker line is very strong with the Force, so Ben says, ďI think we should protect the kids, because they may be able to help us right the wrong that your husband has created in the universe.Ē And so Ben takes one and gives him to a couple out there on Tatooine and he gets his little hideout in the hills and he watches him grow. Ben canít raise Luke himself, because heís a wanted man. Leia and Lukeís mother go to Alderaan and are taken in by the king there, who is a friend of Benís. She dies shortly thereafter and Leia is brought up by her foster parents. She knows that her real mother died.

Kasdan: She does know that?

Lucas: Yes, so we can bring that out when Luke is talking to her; she can say that her mother died when ďI was two years old.Ē

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Stupid people were still attaching that nonsense pretty boy label to him at the time, I guess mainly because of Titanic.
Well, that's how he was generally perceived back then when they were casting AOTC. It wasn't until after that that Leo began working with Scorsese and his reputation as an actor grew. In hindsight, we can only wonder how things would have worked out if Leo played Anakin...

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Thank you posting that, my friend. That is how I have always thought of the Force, and it is nice to know that this was what was intended in the OT.

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This comes out October 1st? Goddammit.

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I was hoping they would announce something during the first week of Star Wars Weekends at Disney World, but sadly they didn't. With Kathleen Kennedy supposedly going to be at Star Wars celebrations, it seems like we'll get some sort of info there. Possibly even a teaser poster.
I knew they weren't gonna announce anything at Star Wars weekend because they never do....they'll save it for celebration or comic con

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That sounds much better than what we got.

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