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Old 03-20-2013, 05:18 AM   #1
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Default He-Man & The Masters Of The Universe Appreciation Thread

I can't belive no one has tried posting this thread yet! Post whatever you want about He-Man & The Masters Of The Universe. Your favorite characters. Your favorite episodes. Which version you prefer (the original 1980's version, the short lived 1990's version loosely based on the Dolf Lundgren movie, or the 2002 reboot). Post fan art, links to You Tube clips, links to fan fiction stories, etc.

Personally, my favorite version is the 2002 reboot. I used to love the original 1980's version as a kid, but it doesn't quite stand the test of time for me as an adult. I never even watched the other version, I just didn't like the artwork.

What about the rest of you?

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Old 03-20-2013, 08:33 AM   #2
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I'd have to agree with you that the 80's version hasn't aged all that well, though I do still enjoy watching an episode purely for nostalgia reasons.

It was a real shame that the 2002 version didn't get more episodes, it was pretty good and really deserved more.

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Old 03-20-2013, 10:03 AM   #3
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The 2002 reboot was excellent, they took the best parts from all the existing He-man material, including the Filmation cartoon, and made it into one awesome series. I could not have imagined a better cartoon myself.

The 1980s cartoon is still fun to watch. I still think the painted backgrounds used (and repeatedly overused in some cases) are astonishingly good though. It was artwork worthy of comparison to Bakshi/Frazetta/Laloux in my opinion.

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The 1980s cartoon is still fun to watch. I still think the painted backgrounds used (and repeatedly overused in some cases) are astonishingly good though. It was artwork worthy of comparison to Bakshi/Frazetta/Laloux in my opinion.
I would have loved to have seen a He-Man movie done in the same style as Fire & Ice.

I watched some of the 90's New Adventures not to long ago. It was actually a lot better than I expected, once you get past the redesigns.

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New Castle Greyskull playset gets released this winter.

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Old 03-20-2013, 11:45 PM   #6
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New Castle Greyskull playset gets released this winter.
I know I will regret not buying it, but I don't have the space for it, and the $300 could be better used elsewhere this year.

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Understandable Pink Ranger. But there's always the hope it could get a mark down on like a Black Friday sale somewhere down the line. I got some really good deals on some MattyC stuff I was missing on a Black Friday sale last November.

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Old 03-21-2013, 01:08 AM   #8
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I've tried to re-watch the original MOTU cartoon, but I just couldn't get into it.

However, I was somewhat surprised to find that I find the majority of the POP cartoon episodes to be entertaining. I think it's because the entire premise of POP is more appealing to me with The Evil Horde ruling the entire planet and Adora and her friends being a small "rebellion". The fact that Adora was a member of The Evil Horde is also interesting, although that aspect is rarely mentioned.

I haven't been able to make my way through the MOTU reboot cartoon. The few episodes I watched weren't terrible, but they weren't as good as the other cartoons which I would rather spend my time watching (e.g. Batman: TAS, Gargoyles, etc).

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You bastards. Thought there was a new show announced.

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I've tried to re-watch the original MOTU cartoon, but I just couldn't get into it.

However, I was somewhat surprised to find that I find the majority of the POP cartoon episodes to be entertaining. I think it's because the entire premise of POP is more appealing to me with The Evil Horde ruling the entire planet and Adora and her friends being a small "rebellion". The fact that Adora was a member of The Evil Horde is also interesting, although that aspect is rarely mentioned.

I haven't been able to make my way through the MOTU reboot cartoon. The few episodes I watched weren't terrible, but they weren't as good as the other cartoons which I would rather spend my time watching (e.g. Batman: TAS, Gargoyles, etc).

Ironically, the 2002 reboot of He-Man & The Masters Of The Universe has animation and artwork that's very similar to Batman: TAS and Gargoyles. Its storylines were also of a more serious nature, like Batman and Gargoyles (part of the reason I like it).

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While I don't think a new live action movie would be any good, I hope it does get made since it could revive the brand and get us new toys in stores at least. Hopefully like a new game or animation to go along with it.

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You bastards. Thought there was a new show announced.

Why? I thought the title was pretty self explanitory. "He-Man & The Masters Of The Universe Appreciation Thread". Absolutely no mention of there being a new series.

However, now that you mention it, I would like to see a new series being made. Or at least a completion of the 2002 reboot. I believe it was supposed to run for five seasons, but got cancelled after only three. I don't understand why, really, unless it was mismanagement of the show causing lower ratings.

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I'd have to agree with you that the 80's version hasn't aged all that well, though I do still enjoy watching an episode purely for nostalgia reasons.

It was a real shame that the 2002 version didn't get more episodes, it was pretty good and really deserved more.

The only 80's He-Man I really watch anymore is the He-Man & She-Ra Christmas Special which I pop into my DVD player every December.

You're so totally right about the reboot deserving more episodes. Why is it the best TV shows always seem to get cancelled prematurely? Firefly, Farscape, Thundarr The Barbarian, and He-Man & The Masters Of The Universe 2002. Whoever makes these kinds of decisions at the TV networks should be tarred, feathered, then fired for incompitence.

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Glad this is here, I'm a huge motu fan in all it's incarnations toys shows and all

I've my problems with the current toy line but that's nothing but personal issues.the show is a classic and sadly seems to be one destined to be run into th ground every time it enters a new medium

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Why? I thought the title was pretty self explanitory. "He-Man & The Masters Of The Universe Appreciation Thread". Absolutely no mention of there being a new series.

However, now that you mention it, I would like to see a new series being made. Or at least a completion of the 2002 reboot. I believe it was supposed to run for five seasons, but got cancelled after only three. I don't understand why, really, unless it was mismanagement of the show causing lower ratings.

Because I was scrolling the main forum(didn't click on the TV series thread) and I only saw "He-Man & The Masters Of. The..". The rest was cut off because I guess it couldn't fit.

Didn't the show get canned due to low toy sales? Seems to be CN's reason for killing their best shows.

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the low toy sales were due to whats been known as the smash blade fiasco.

mattel had 2 varients smash blade he-man and spin blade skeletor and over packed them, i dont know actual numbers but if a box contained 10 figures it contained 4 smash and 4 spin 1 other hero and 1 other villain

so the pegs became over clogged

the toon got shafted because CN changed the time slot weekly once it could be 6pm then the next week its would be on at 5 am

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Fun fact: The 2002 cartoon was Lauren Montgomery's first job in animation. She's the chick that directed the DC animated movies Wonder Woman, Green Lantern: First Flight, Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, among others.

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the low toy sales were due to whats been known as the smash blade fiasco.

mattel had 2 varients smash blade he-man and spin blade skeletor and over packed them, i dont know actual numbers but if a box contained 10 figures it contained 4 smash and 4 spin 1 other hero and 1 other villain

so the pegs became over clogged

the toon got shafted because CN changed the time slot weekly once it could be 6pm then the next week its would be on at 5 am

So I was right, network meddling/incompitence. The same thing happened with Firefly. Why do people in power always seem to think that the key to success is to make total dumbass decisions?

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He-man is also a difficult sell today. Science-fantasy is a strange concept for a lot of people who did not have the privilege of watching a lot of 1970s animation

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I wonder if you guys can help me out with something...

When I was a kid, I guess around '97 or '98, there was a He-Man era (but not actually He-Man) cartoon on Cartoon Network. It had a blonde guy in gold, I think sleeveless armour, a love interest and a kid sidekick. The main guy's weapon were the sword hilts that sprung the blades out of them like a lightsaber (but an actual blade I think, not a laser) and I think he could join the together to make a double bladed sword. AND I think they could shoot lighting or fire out of the blades? Something like that.

The sidekicks weapon was this multi-coloured boomerang that broke up into individually coloured, mini-boomerangs.

I've searched for the words 'Power Lance' before, because that's what I thought it was called, but Power Rangers comes up.

Anybody?

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I wonder if you guys can help me out with something...

When I was a kid, I guess around '97 or '98, there was a He-Man era (but not actually He-Man) cartoon on Cartoon Network. It had a blonde guy in gold, I think sleeveless armour, a love interest and a kid sidekick. The main guy's weapon were the sword hilts that sprung the blades out of them like a lightsaber (but an actual blade I think, not a laser) and I think he could join the together to make a double bladed sword. AND I think they could shoot lighting or fire out of the blades? Something like that.

The sidekicks weapon was this multi-coloured boomerang that broke up into individually coloured, mini-boomerangs.

I've searched for the words 'Power Lance' before, because that's what I thought it was called, but Power Rangers comes up.

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I'm not sure, but I think it was called The Golden Lance. Never watched it myself, but I think I stumbled across some scenes from the show on You Tube.

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I'm not sure, but I think it was called The Golden Lance. Never watched it myself, but I think I stumbled across some scenes from the show on You Tube.
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Hoollly crap! That's the one.

Thanks a lot, that's been bugging me for ages. Nostalgia time.

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But the 2002 reboot was such a good show, I'm sure many people would have gotten into it had CN execs not meddled with it. Really good TV shows only ever get lousy ratings when TV execs meddle with their scheduling.

He-Man's times and dates kept changing so that the people who did like the show could never find it twice.

Firefly's dates and times kept changing so that people who liked the show could never find it. Plus they also showed the episodes out of sequence, making it difficult to follow.

Blade: The Series was shown so many times throughout the week that the people who liked the show didn't need to watch it on the actual night of the regular broadcast (which is the night that TV execs look at when determining a show's ratings).

Breakout Kings was also shown almost nightly, making waiting to see it on it's regular night unnecessary (thus costing it ratings and causing it to be cancelled).
Wrestling Reality was shown multiple times a day every weekday, rather than just on Tuesdays as it was originally advertised. And there were only about 13 episodes, so they blew through their entire season in just under 3 weeks. So naturally after the first month or two the ratings tanked.


So here's a message to all the TV execs out there who might be reading this. YOUR job is to try and make the TV shows you broadcast successful. When your network's TV shows are successful . . . YOU MAKE MORE MONEY!!! Here is how you make a TV show a success.

A) If the show has an overall story arc, you show the episodes in the proper sequencial order (ie: the premier episode should be Episode #1, not Episode #4 . . . *cough* FOX *cough*).

B) Maintain the same broadcasting schedule (ie: if the show is scheduled to be on at 8:00 pm every Friday, then you maintain the 8:00 pm schedule every gorram Friday until the season finale. NOT change it to Thursday at 7 one week, then Saturday at 9 the next, or show a new episode every day of the week until you've used up your entire season in under a month).

C) If you want to change the date and time? WAIT UNTIL NEXT DAMN SEASON!

D) Absolutely, positively, under no circumstances what so ever, do you EVER over saturate the network with reruns of the show. ESPECIALLY when it's only the first season. If you MUST show reruns of that season's episodes on different days of the week, don't start until you're at least 2 weeks into the show (ie: if the show airs every Friday at 8:00 pm, and you want to show reruns of that episode on Monday at 7:00 pm, you should only show the episodes from about 2 weeks ago on Monday, thus ensuring that people don't skip the Friday show and watch it the following Monday).

That's pretty much it I think. You TV execs out there, please take notes on this. It's odd how I've never worked in TV, yet I actually know more about what goes into making a successful TV show than you people who went to school and actually STUDIED BROADCASTING!

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There was boatloads of potential with the 2002 He-Man series before Cartoon Network screwed it up and they've done the same thing with Thundercats.

The only He-man product that's out there now are the new comics produced by DC.

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