Doctor Who - Regeneration 9 - Part 8

[stillanerd]

Yeah, the supposed spoiler the Sun revealed is something that's been rumored for a couple weeks. If you guys remember I posted this:

Originally Posted by stillanerd

Well, if any of these rumors of the ugly stuff behind the scenes is actually true, then it does give some credence to what one the bigger rumors that's been going around the net about the 50th Anniversary special and how John Hurt fits into it. Which is...

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that supposedly John Hurt is playing the real 9th Doctor from the Time War. Which would basically mean that Moffat has essentially retconned it so that Christopher Eccleston was actually the 10th Doctor, David Tennant the 11th, and Matt Smith the 12th.

If true, it does admittedly make sense, but at the same time

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it has all the hallmarks of a script rewrite due to Eccleston not being able to reprise his role, really fouls up things up number wise, and reeks of the kind of Stephen Moffat too-clever-by-half bullcrap he tends to write himself into.

[Upset Spideyfan]

The older girl was such a snotty little brat. Hopefully we never have to suffer her again. You're on a other planet, stop worrying about ****ing cell service.

HER ASIDE:

It wasn't the Doctor's Wife (then again what is) but it was the best episode of the season imo and probably the best Cybermen episode since the show's come back, though I think that's neither of those are particularly high bars. They really did a good job redesigning and upgrading them as an enemy but I was impressed/surprised how the episode ended up really being about the battle of the minds between the Doctor and Cyber Controller Doctor. Also probably Clara's best showing as a companion thus far.

Now let's dump that older brat into a supernova or something.

[Kirmit]

Good episode, hated both kid actors but loved the new cybermen.

[RetroNaz]

It had far too much to live up to with regard to the Doctors Wife episode.
Was still a good episode though.

[wobbly]

Enjoyable epsiode and maybe a clue as to Hurts role in the special?

When the Cyber-Doctor is talking to the real doctor in his mind he comments on how the Doctor has been erasing himself from historical databanks and so on. Then says something like " but you could be reconstructed from the holes you've left". To which the real Doctor replies: "Yes, I'm going to have to do something about that."

Seems an odd thing to throw in in they are not planning to come back to it. Hurt's role could maybe be what fills those 'holes'?

[Upset Spideyfan]

I recently read that the episode was written with Victorian Clara in mind, hence the kids.

[jonathancrane]

I really enjoyed the episode. The Cybermen were menacing and there is a terrific amount of 2nd Doctor era Easter eggs.

[DrDoom]

Hated the girl with a passion

"Yay, I'm having fun in this amusement park!"

5 minutes later

"Clara's STUPID and ruins everything!" It came completely out of nowhere and she said "stupid" about 50 times in the episode

[Upset Spideyfan]

My reaction when she got upgraded:





The He Said She Said Minisode

[Jennifer Walters]

And then suddenly at the end of the episode?

She's the one who is paying attention enough to find out that Porridge is the Emperor.

Say whattttt.

[Upset Spideyfan]

I don't know if anyone noticed but:

During the trailer for next week

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there is a shot of Clara in what looks like the 70's and 80's as alternate versions of herself I am guessing and in the former time period there is a shot that appears as if Bessie is driving by.

[TheCorpulent1]

I was really hoping Angie would fall off a bridge or something.

[RetroNaz]

Is anyone starting to get a bit burnt out by this show yet?
Maybe it's just the rather disappointing season...but I haven't really been looking forward to any new episode since Amy and Rory left. The Doctor and Clara pairing just aren't doing it for me.

I can't really put my finger on it.

[Upset Spideyfan]

I would imagine that's because the story arc has been spinning its wheels pretty much in place since the the show came back this year. Going into the finale for S5 we had learned a lot about what the cracks were, how they worked and we knew the TARDIS was involved and in S6 stuff happened even if a lot of it was chaotic nonsense. This year I feel like I don't know anything different than what I knew at the end of Snowmen or Bells of Saint John.

Plus I'd say the blockbuster format has been a huge mistake and already feels tired and conceptually flat with these done-in-one's. This week's episode could have been a lot stronger imo with 2 parts for example.

Still, I'm not burnt out but that is probably due to how much I am into Who generally speaking but I totally see and get why one would be. Hopefully after this season is over we can get away from the blockbuster stuff and spectacle and with the whole Clara/Doctor's name mystery wrapped up get back to basics.

[DrDoom]

Just saw this interview, Eccelston REALLY doesnt want to be associated with Doctor Who lol

[TheComicbookKid]

This is what I don't understand.

If clara is being pulled into past Doctor's era's in the Name of the Doctor, then what is going on with that filming of her in the Unearthly Child setup in the 50th? Is she still being splintered? Is the Doctor chasing her through his own past and that's what the 50th is?

[DACrowe]

That was an amazing episode. I am almost positive that Gaiman intentionally made us hate those kids so that when they got "upgraded," we'd almost cheer. Or at least subvert the kid sidekick thing.

The rest of the plot was superb. It was a real showcase for Matt Smith and his amazing scenes as the Doctor vs. Mr. Clever. I also loved Clara's interactions with Mr. Clever.

This episode really was a fantastic piece of writing that reinvented the Cybermen from the poor man's Dalek (or borg) into something special. Easily the best episode since the Christmas special and I am one of those who has enjoyed at least a few of 7b more than the usual Internet whining.

Bravo, is what I say.

[DACrowe]

Originally Posted by SpideyFan866

But that's kinda the issue.

Every Doctor is synonymous with their number,It's their title and this twist ****s everything up if the 9th, 10th, and 11th all lose their number because Moffat decided to throw in a "Lost" regeneration.

Technically, you can say they still have their number and title because that "lost" doctor and regeneration is time locked with the Time War but its still messing up whats already established.

Maybe it is because Doctor Who was never on my radar until the DT tenure, but this really does not bug me that much. And it effects the only two doctors I really passionately followed. Besides Nine has made it very clear he is not coming back and seems to really hate the whole enterprise. Throwing in a surprise from the stasis years can work as long as it is executed well. In which case, time will tell.

[Hawkingbird]

Originally Posted by RetroNaz

Is anyone starting to get a bit burnt out by this show yet?
Maybe it's just the rather disappointing season...but I haven't really been looking forward to any new episode since Amy and Rory left. The Doctor and Clara pairing just aren't doing it for me.

I can't really put my finger on it.

I've felt like that ever since Moffat took over

[the_ultimate_evil]

Why do I get the feeling Clara has something to do with the hole the doctor has left by erasing himself from history.



Hopefully it's something more creative than she is the doctor or at least part of him that's been missing

[The Englishman]

Originally Posted by DACrowe

That was an amazing episode. I am almost positive that Gaiman intentionally made us hate those kids so that when they got "upgraded," we'd almost cheer. Or at least subvert the kid sidekick thing.

The rest of the plot was superb. It was a real showcase for Matt Smith and his amazing scenes as the Doctor vs. Mr. Clever. I also loved Clara's interactions with Mr. Clever.

This episode really was a fantastic piece of writing that reinvented the Cybermen from the poor man's Dalek (or borg) into something special. Easily the best episode since the Christmas special and I am one of those who has enjoyed at least a few of 7b more than the usual Internet whining.

Bravo, is what I say.

Poor mans Borg??!!??

[jonathancrane]

To be fair, the phrase popularized by the Borg - "resistance is futile"-was used by the Cybermen in one of the Second Doctor serials.

[Lord Valumart]

Well, if I'm honest that episodes had a bunch of good points, and a bunch of bad points, and a criminally under used Jason Wakins.

Yeh, didn't beat the last episode for me. Over all, I think it could have used less kids, better set up, just longer in general actually, less kids, and a better use of Jason Wakins. I mean he's been brilliant in everything, but then he was really dull in this.

[jezza]

Has anyone seen this BIG mistake made by BBC America?

http://untempered-schism-insta.tumbl...re-order-early

[Lord Valumart]

"Clara’s explanation will BLOW classic Whovians out of the water" well I already hate it...

BRING BACK MCGANN!!!