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Old 05-02-2013, 10:57 AM   #326
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I think they probably will be mutants. Iron Man 3 uses the words mutants and even an X-Men hint. Without going into spoilers, the movie involves the idea of experiments that can enhance humans and give them superhuman abilities.

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But Disney risks the chance fox could sue them for stepping on their rights.
Fox sued marvel for mutant X Tv show.Plus quicksilver and scarlet witch Is a dicey thing than vague references In Iron Man 3.

If MS was still a trully Independent compnay Kevin Feige and Fox could handle It but since It Is part of Disney that makes things dicer.

1isney Is going to make sure there Is almost no merchadise for X-Men and FF films
2isney axed any more Star Wars 3-d rereleases.Fox remains distributer for
episodes 1-3,5,and 6 till 2020

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I find kind of a stupid rule that Marvel cant say they are mutants or Magneto's children.

Its like.... will that make Fox to loose money now or what? lol

a mention like that on any franchise wont make or break anything. Its just part of the dialogue of the characters. What's the big deal?

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Because Quicksilver and scarlett witch as mutants and as Magneto's children are part of rights Fox gained when they bought film rights to X-Men.

Fox doesn't have any reason to let DIsney use that.Especilly since Disney will make sure almost no merchadise will be In stores to help promate the wolverine of Days of future past.
Remember how there was practully nothing to promate First Class.

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Fox doesn't have any reason to let DIsney use that.
Fox likes money right? Any connection will help them. We got some time on that one. A deal could be made who knows. Lauren Donner and Feige have a good relationship. Last October she said...
http://www.slashfilm.com/x-men-produ...ers-crossover/

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Lauren Shuler Donner: I would love it. I would love it. I personally have close ties to Marvel because of Kevin Feige, because Kevin worked for me. But to take our characters and mingle them in the way that they were written, yeah, absolutely.


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Fox likes money right? Any connection will help them. We got some time on that one. A deal could be made who knows. Lauren Donner and Feige have a good relationship. Last October she said...
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Fox likes money right? Any connection will help them. We got some time on that one. A deal could be made who knows. Lauren Donner and Feige have a good relationship. Last October she said...
http://www.slashfilm.com/x-men-produ...ers-crossover/
It doesn't matter that Kevin feige has good relationship with both Lauren shueller Donnor and Bryan Singer Disney Is calling the shots.MS and Lucasfilm are both just part of Disney now.

Unlike earlier films First Class had virtully no merchandise to help promate It.What changed.Disney buying marvel that Is what changed.It's going to be
same with the Wolverine,DOFP,and FF.

Now we can all admit Fox has a crap marketing department.why else do you
think Bryan Singer Is doing all he can to take It away from them and help promate film himself with his tweets

Disney took money away from Fox by killing the 3-d rereleases of Star Wars
films.So why would Fox respond by letting Disney have connection to X-Men films in The Avengers sequel.

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I wonder if Sub-Mariner could appear in a X-Men film since he's now of the X-Men in the comics.

Did FOX got the rights for Sub-Mariner together with Fantastic Four? I've seen news about Universal doing a Sub-Mariner movie a long time ago.
Marvel have the rights to Namor.

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Fox never had rights to namor.He was not part of FF deal.Universal had It till rights reverted to Marvel.

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So why would Fox respond by letting Disney have connection to X-Men films in The Avengers sequel.
Because characters that appear in Avengers are more then likely guaranteed to have an increase in following films. It means more money for Fox in the end. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are already a possible bridging point. If those characters ever appeared in a later X-Men movie that would more then likely mean an increase in ticket sales. It's business. Hell, they can already use both.


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It doesn't matter that Kevin feige has good relationship with both Lauren shueller Donnor and Bryan Singer Disney Is calling the shots.MS and Lucasfilm are both just part of Disney now.

Unlike earlier films First Class had virtully no merchandise to help promate It.What changed.Disney buying marvel that Is what changed.It's going to be
same with the Wolverine,DOFP,and FF.

Now we can all admit Fox has a crap marketing department.why else do you
think Bryan Singer Is doing all he can to take It away from them and help promate film himself with his tweets

Disney took money away from Fox by killing the 3-d rereleases of Star Wars
films.So why would Fox respond by letting Disney have connection to X-Men films in The Avengers sequel.
didnt you really understand the point posted right before you?


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Because characters that appear in Avengers or more then likely guaranteed to have an increase in following films. It means more money for Fox in the end. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are already a possible bridging point. If those characters ever appeared in a later X-Men movie that would more then likely mean an increase in ticket sales. It's business. Hell, they can already use both.
Exactly. It's just smart business. FOX is already fighting an uphill battle with merchandising and poor advertising. Not to mention ill will from a certain percentage of the fans.

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any studio would make an agreement with Marvel Studios right now.

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If quicksilver and scarlet witch ever show up In a X-Men related film they will
have to be recast and nothing that happened In The Avengers sequel can be
referenced.

Disney cost Fox money by killing star Wars 3-d rereleases and Is doing all they
can to hurt marketing for Fox marvel films,although granted Fox's terrable marketing Isn't helping,

People are forgetting bad blood between Fox and disney.In recent years Marvel Is using X-Men characters to bolster Avengers comics(Uncanny Avengers) and
killing off major X-Men characters.Plus doing all they can to sabtage Fox marvel films.Let's just say nexy year don't expect any DOFP merchandse In stores.

Fox has very little Incentive to let Disney call quicksilver and scarlet witch mutants or mention Magneto Is their father.

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Wow. Whatever's going on in the comics is not bearing on Fox's ability to make/market the films they already own. And Disney didn't hatch some scheme to hurt Fox by buying Lucasfilm. The 3D releases weren't going to generate enough revenue to get all steamed over losing those distributions, anyway.

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If quicksilver and scarlet witch ever show up In a X-Men related film they will
have to be recast and nothing that happened In The Avengers sequel can be
referenced.

Disney cost Fox money by killing star Wars 3-d rereleases and Is doing all they
can to hurt marketing for Fox marvel films,although granted Fox's terrable marketing Isn't helping,

People are forgetting bad blood between Fox and disney.In recent years Marvel Is using X-Men characters to bolster Avengers comics(Uncanny Avengers) and
killing off major X-Men characters.Plus doing all they can to sabtage Fox marvel films.Let's just say nexy year don't expect any DOFP merchandse In stores.

Fox has very little Incentive to let Disney call quicksilver and scarlet witch mutants or mention Magneto Is their father.
You really think the re release of Star Wars 3D is a bigger deal then the Avengers? 1.6 billion on a single movie. And your telling me Fox would pass up putting in a Scarlet Witch connection because of that?

Uncanny Avengers is a good book and written by one of the best current writers out there. If someone doesn't like the idea of a mash up you have about 7 other X-men only teams to choose from. The X-men are in the best shape quality wise and highest selling they have been in awhile. They want all the characters to exist and interact more in the comic world. That's it. Has nothing to do with Fox.


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Fox has very little Incentive to let Disney call quicksilver and scarlet witch mutants or mention Magneto Is their father.
now seriously....

do you work for 20th Century Fox?

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1:From what i have heard Xavier,Nightcrawler,and now Wolverine have all been killed off
In comics.A new wolverine movie Is coming out and Wolverine at present dead In Comics?
Doesn't that strike people as a bit odd.
2:Fox only bought film rights.Animated and merchanze rights remain at Marvel.There was almost no merchdize to help promate first Class.It will be same with The wolverine,DOFP,and FF.That's not how marvel handle things prior to disney buying them.
3f course Disney didn't buy Lucasfilm just to hurt Fox but they did kill any future Star Wars rerelease In 3-d.Fox would have made some money off them.

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Sounds more like a crackpot theory to me.

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now seriously....

do you work for 20th Century Fox?
You really think Fox would disney touch X-Men connections for avengers sequel.
This Is studio that once sued marvel over mutant X and launced lawsuit over
watchman which threatend the release of It.

To get a deal in business and politics both sides need to get something.What's
In it for Fox? Disney will do everything possable not to allow any merchadise for any X-Men related films In stores.If fox uses quicksilver and scarlet witch In a X-Men related film the roles will have to be recast and no reference can be made to the avengers.It would great for Disney.Fox not so much.

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Fox have perhaps more characters to work with then Marvel does

i think marvel using magnetos children for the avengers seems kinda either desperate or a middle finger to fox... who knows

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1:From what i have heard Xavier,Nightcrawler,and now Wolverine have all been killed off
In comics.A new wolverine movie Is coming out and Wolverine at present dead In Comics?
Doesn't that strike people as a bit odd.
No. How many times have characters been killed for the past 4 decades?

Nightcrawler has been dead in the comics for 3 years, and still shows up because of AOA Kurt. He hasnt been in an X Film for 10 years. No one is using him in the films period.

We don't know what is going on with Wolverine yet. But they probably want to market to the movie if anything and have a storyline that will get talked about to sell more. That is nothing new and has been used for years.


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If fox uses quicksilver and scarlet witch In a X-Men related film the roles will have to be recast and no reference can be made to the avengers.It would great for Disney.Fox not so much.
I cant really understand your logic, as much as you keep posting and posting.

Disney mentioning Wanda and Pietro as mutants and Magneto's children will benefit Fox.

Disney has a bigger audience than Fox right now. Thats why Fox would be interested in the agreement.

But if you have your own unique weird logic, what do I expect to keep discussing? lol

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i think if FOX and marvel were gonna agree on any mutant being in the avengers it would be wolverine, there is no agreement needed here, marvel can use these characters so they will

overall it would be incredibly confusing if FOX used them also at some point, they would be recast and probably different in look

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i think marvel using magnetos children for the avengers seems kinda either desperate or a middle finger to fox... who knows
It's more a middle finger to Fox.The minute I heard the possibilty to this I knew that.Of course I also knew most on forums would think It's brillent since Disney Is god and Fox the devil

For the record the last new X-Men comics I have read was Joss Whedon's run
on Astonishing X-Men.The new team overseeing marvel when It brought In
Grant Morrison eventully caused me to wash my hands of what they were
turning X-Men Into.My ideal eras of X-Men was 1975-2000.Granted at times the 1990's wasn't always the best but nowhere near as bad as what happened to X-Men under Morrison

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