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Old 04-16-2013, 09:56 AM   #226
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oh you mean like wolverine... ok i guess that wasn't a good example :P
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:15 AM   #227
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are u serious, guys?

the claws arent Logan's mutation. Rogue absorves the mutant power, not what the other mutants have inside their bodies, lol
Long since retconned.

They're part of his his mutation now.

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but we're talking about X1.

Singer probably didnt have the bone claws in mind for Wolverine.

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In the comics I believe they retconned it like 20 years ago.

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Old 04-16-2013, 10:31 AM   #230
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the guy who directed origins didn't care much about continuity to be fair

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the guy who directed origins didn't care much about continuity to be fair
I don't think you are being fair. He didn't write the script, for a start. And there was, no doubt, an awful lot that was 'required' by the studio.

But the continuity of the story in general did fit with the original trilogy.

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Yeah, Wolverine was all Tom Rothman's fault.

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I don't think you are being fair. He didn't write the script, for a start. And there was, no doubt, an awful lot that was 'required' by the studio.
But the continuity of the story in general did fit with the original trilogy.

Well i do remember he said somewher on some behind the scenes tv special that he changed alot of the scene where they gave wolverine the metal claws from what we saw in x1 and 2 flashback, and pretty much said he wanted it to look bit different

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but we're talking about X1.

Singer probably didnt have the bone claws in mind for Wolverine.
Oh sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to claim that the bone claws weren't part of his mutation now, as opposed to back in the time X1 was made.

I agree then. Back in X1, that's why Rogue didn't get bone claws. Though in retrospect, given they've retconned it, she should have.

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I know....

but its time for Rogue to SHINE, so if this ends happening, Storm fans will have to deal, hehe
Bite your tongue The only way for Storm top shine in these movies is through her action scenes and her power displays as for some reason the writers can't write worth damn when it comes to a Storm character arc and now you suggest we take away the ONE thing that makes her interesting in these movies, I'm sorry if Rogue has had no action in these movies she don't need to steal Storm's power set in order to shine. Rogue fans will have to deal.

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no, Rogue's power is to STEAL other mutants power, so if Storm is her friend, she HAS to let her steal hers!

do you get it??

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Rogue only having an action scene by stealing Storm's powers is a disservice to both characters. They each need a chance to shine on their own.

Since Rogue won't have her Ms. Marvel powers, she needs to have a scene where she gets to use her powers in a sneaky mission... similar to the plan they had for her to infiltrate the Brotherhood in X3.

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Rogue undergoes a second mutation and gets to fly and kick ass, and Storm does the same. Done and done.

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^Yes Duran Man!

Rogue has had lots of contact with specific mutants that would allow her to resemble her comic counterpart: with Magneto (defy gravity via magnetic abilities)= Flight, Wolverine (healing ability)=invulnerability, Colossus= degree of super strength and Pyro= limited flame manipulation...add with taking the cure, which mutated her...bam! Let Rogue kick some ass!

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Rogue undergoes a second mutation and gets to fly and kick ass, and Storm does the same. Done and done.
Precisely.

Easy peasy.

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Rogue only having an action scene by stealing Storm's powers is a disservice to both characters. They each need a chance to shine on their own.

Since Rogue won't have her Ms. Marvel powers, she needs to have a scene where she gets to use her powers in a sneaky mission... similar to the plan they had for her to infiltrate the Brotherhood in X3.
none said Rogue only has to have ONE action momment, lol.

She can steal Iceman power too, why not?

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Maybe she takes the abilities of dying mutants and by some luck she absorbs some flying mutants power. Or Super strength.

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that would be cool

but for some reason I dont see Singer doing that, dont know... I hope he surprises me in a great way

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Boo Boo can play some random mutant with that power. Rogue holds his hand as he dies. Boom. Done.

Actually, no, I'm sticking to my secondary mutation wish. Because if they had her absorb it from a dying mutant, she'll lose it as soon as they fix the timeline.

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I think it would be cool for rogue to get her powers from a mutant bounty Hunter type of person. Maybe the govt hires mutants to capture other mutant outlaws? They could come after bobby and somehow knock him out and while trying to protect him Rogues powers could flair up again from the stress and she absorbs and accidently kills the bounty hunter. They could even have the bounty hunter be a blonde woman for a lil nod to miss marvel.

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Second mutation after the cure stopped working would be the best choice.

But Rogue borrowing Storm's powers isn't a bad idea.

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Second mutation after the cure stopped working would be the best choice.

But Rogue borrowing Storm's powers isn't a bad idea.
I think it's a bad idea because why give Rogue a second-hand action scene and a power display that is already expected and known from another character in the franchise. It's boring for Rogue and a waste of Storm.

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Maybe she takes the abilities of dying mutants and by some luck she absorbs some flying mutants power. Or Super strength.
This is a much better idea, and one that I also suggested a long time ago. She could be like her Reaper character from Age of X. When the time came, she could tap into all these powers that she absorbed. In Mike Carey's X-Men Legacy run, she did this all the time... absorbed multiple powers and used them together spectacularly.

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Rogue borrowing Storm's power of flight would be clumsy on screen since she won't have had the time to master it. In a battle with Sentinels she'd get slaughtered trying to figure it out. Storm rides the wind currents. That takes practice...it's not simply about getting airborne like someone i.e. Superman.

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Ya know, I think there's something about what happened to Beast in FC in relation to the cure. "It didn't attack the cells, it enhanced them". Possible for Rogue and Magneto getting secondary mutations?

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Rogue could fly and smash the head of a Sentinel.

While Storm can stay in the ground and electrocutes the Sentinel. Its one way for Storm to not to fly in the movies.

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Ya know, I think there's something about what happened to Beast in FC in relation to the cure. "It didn't attack the cells, it enhanced them". Possible for Rogue and Magneto getting secondary mutations?
Yup! And its a very simple explanation and it could easily work.

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Rogue borrowing Storm's power of flight would be clumsy on screen since she won't have had the time to master it. In a battle with Sentinels she'd get slaughtered trying to figure it out. Storm rides the wind currents. That takes practice...it's not simply about getting airborne like someone i.e. Superman.
What if its not gonna be the 1st time that ROgue borrowed Storm's power. They were probably trained in the danger room a hundreds of time.

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