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Old 04-29-2013, 09:20 PM   #76
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I'm betting no latter than Comic Con.
Safe bet. I'm also hoping we get our first look at at least one of the following: Arnim Zola/Crossbones/Winter Soldier/Star-Lord

And perhaps we'll get a real confirmation of a Dr Strange film in 2016 or so... and maybe an Agents of SHIELD teaser?

Maybe I'm asking too much?

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Old 05-27-2013, 08:08 AM   #77
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Some rumor about Lee Pace's character switching sides at some point in the film.


oooh. -_- i wonder who it could be.

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Some rumor about Lee Pace's character switching sides at some point in the film.


oooh. -_- i wonder who it could be.
Magus/Warlock?

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Old 05-27-2013, 04:48 PM   #79
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Magus/Warlock?
Agreed. Based on the rumors, but I'm wondering if perhaps Magus spends the majority of the film in a behind-the-scenes role with Yondu doing his dirty work. Hence him being the "principal villain" as recent rumors suggest.

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I think he'll be Nova. Chasing the Guardians similar to Karl Urban's role in Red. He's not a bad guy, he's just doing his job.

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Agreed. Based on the rumors, but I'm wondering if perhaps Magus spends the majority of the film in a behind-the-scenes role with Yondu doing his dirty work. Hence him being the "principal villain" as recent rumors suggest.
If any rumor should be taken with a grain of salt it should be the Yondu as principal villain rumor. I highly doubt that one.

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Old 05-28-2013, 12:02 AM   #82
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I think he'll be Nova. Chasing the Guardians similar to Karl Urban's role in Red. He's not a bad guy, he's just doing his job.
Maybe, but I don't see how Richard Rider could ever be mistaken for a bad guy, or even one who turned good.

Magus becoming Adam Warlock makes the most sense, and has an obvious connection to the GOTG, and to Thanos, whereas Nova's connection to the team is ancillary at best.

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Old 05-28-2013, 10:31 AM   #83
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I think the most likely explanation is "that massive swarm of spoilers is largely wrong." I can't put my finger on a single specific reason, but it doesn't smell right to me. I mean, there may be bits and pieces in there that turn out to be right, but I suspect the majority of it is largely or entirely inaccurate.

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Maybe, but I don't see how Richard Rider could ever be mistaken for a bad guy, or even one who turned good.

Magus becoming Adam Warlock makes the most sense, and has an obvious connection to the GOTG, and to Thanos, whereas Nova's connection to the team is ancillary at best.
As I said in my post, Nova isnt a bad guy, he's just doing his job.If the logline of "In space, an American pilot and a group of futuristic ex-cons go on the run with a highly coveted object" is true than it is very possible that the antagonist would a cop or a cop like figure like Nova.


THe Hitfix report also mentioned that Pace's character would be set up for his own solo film. I think Nova is a lot more likely to get a spinoff than Adam Warlock I think. If it wasnt for the sentence where they said that the "villain" would be set up for his own solo film, I'd probably think Warlock too.

as far as Nova's connection to the team. It doesnt matter if he had one in the past or not. They always make a new connection because the MCU is a new universe


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As I said in my post, Nova isnt a bad guy, he's just doing his job.If the logline of "In space, an American pilot and a group of futuristic ex-cons go on the run with a highly coveted object" is true than it is very possible that the antagonist would a cop or a cop like figure like Nova.


THe Hitfix report also mentioned that Pace's character would be set up for his own solo film. I think Nova is a lot more likely to get a spinoff than Adam Warlock I think. If it wasnt for the sentence where they said that the "villain" would be set up for his own solo film, I'd probably think Warlock too.

as far as Nova's connection to the team. It doesnt matter if he had one in the past or not. They always make a new connection because the MCU is a new universe
Yeah, I'd agree with you that Nova sounds like a more likely solo film than Adam Warlock; but then again, a few years ago, none of us would've ever dreamed that Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy would be fast-tracked before more iconic Marvel titles. Warlock has a very complex story to tell, obviously; I could see them needing at least two hours to show all that.

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I think he'll be Nova. Chasing the Guardians similar to Karl Urban's role in Red. He's not a bad guy, he's just doing his job.
This seems most likely to me.

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This seems most likely to me.

In retrospect, and with news of Glenn Close joining the Nova Corps, too, I'm gonna switch up and say that Lee Pace as Dick Rider sounds a lot more likely now, too. I'd hate to see Adam Warlock left out of the whole GOTG and Thanos mythology, though....

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In retrospect, and with news of Glenn Close joining the Nova Corps, too, I'm gonna switch up and say that Lee Pace as Dick Rider sounds a lot more likely now, too. I'd hate to see Adam Warlock left out of the whole GOTG and Thanos mythology, though....
I was hoping for Mar-Vell myself but yeah I think it's almost certainly Nova at this point.

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He has to be Richard Rider.

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I was hoping for Mar-Vell myself but yeah I think it's almost certainly Nova at this point.

It would be impossible to introduce the Nova Corps without having Nova in it, obviously. So it makes sense that Richard Rider (or at *least* Sam Alexander) would be a major player in this. If that's not Lee Pace, I don't know who else from known casting fits that bill.

I'm going to offer the possibility, though, that we *don't* see Nova himself until the end of the movie. JCR as Rhomann Dey is still a baffling role to me, because in the comics, he basically plays Abin Sur to Rider's Hal Jordan. But in the MCU, at least according to that rumor, Rhomann Dey is a liaison to SHIELD on extraterrestrial affairs, and JCR is apparently looking at the usual Marvel multi-pic deal to come back in other movies.

So if *that* turns out to be the case, Pace could very well turn out to be someone else, like Warlock, or the Ronan rumor; and we don't see Rhomann Dey and Worldmind (Glenn Close has *gotta* be Worldmind! doesn't she...???) picking their Nova until the end of the movie, setting up Richard Rider (casting still TBA) for a Phase III Nova solo joint.

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It's important to note they definitely aren't done casting yet. Rocket is a main character and no news of him. They could still cast Rider, and Ronan.

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It's important to note they definitely aren't done casting yet. Rocket is a main character and no news of him. They could still cast Rider, and Ronan.

I still wonder when we'll actually get Rocket casting news. He'll probably be just a voice-over, with the CG provided by a random stuntman instead of the actual voice-man; and if that's the case, Rocket's voice actor won't even be needed until well after post.

The voice actors for Rocket and Groot will probably be the last ones we actually hear about, and that'll probably be after the film is already done shooting.

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He'll probably be just a voice-over, with the CG provided by a random stuntman instead of the actual voice-man;
I seriously doubt that. If Rocket Raccoon requires any type of motion capture, which would probably only be limited to facial capture, they'll cast an actor to do it all. That's the way to go nowadays.

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They'll want to make a big deal out of who they cast for Rocket. I'd be surprised if it isn't announced by comic-con.

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They've already said they aren't using Mo-Cap for Rocket. They'll hire a actor just for the voice.

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I really doubt they'll put off Rocket's casting till Post-Production. They'll want the actor's personality bouncing off the other cast members, a la Zach Braff in Oz.

Groot, on the other hand...

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They've already said they aren't using Mo-Cap for Rocket. They'll hire a actor just for the voice.
No, they said that they won't be putting a Mo-Cap suit on a real live Raccoon.

http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2013/02/1...-of-the-galaxy

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“You can’t do any motion capture with a raccoon – they won’t let you put the suit on,” laughed Alonso. “But we will do rotomation, probably, for some of the behavior. Rocket will have his own personality, of course, and clearly we can’t do mocap on a tree, per say, but we definitely will have performers to emulate what James Gunn will lead to be the behavior and the performance. He’s very clear on where he wants to take the characters.”
They didn't say anything about how they'll be capturing the actors performance.

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To be fair they did mention rotomation, which is 3D animating over a real actor/raccoon and usually exaggerating it a bit.

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Fair enough must have misread the article. But to me it makes more sense to use rotomotion on a real raccoon. Humans don't move like raccoons. I hope they take the Del Toro approach

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I hope Lee Pace is Nova but I'm starting to think he might actually be Magus/Warlock. Either way this movie is hard to peg down. lol

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