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Old 05-25-2013, 03:14 AM   #376
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Whatever "redemption" Loki might find in Thor 2, if they bring in Sutur in Thor 3, he would kind of have to go over to the dark side (heh) again in order to cut the deal with Sutur that he does in the comic books. That would be fun!

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I read, too, that the mom will die. Leave it to the stuntmen to spill the beans haha. That being said, there are the rumors of a major character being killed off and unless they expand Frigga's role in Thor 2, she wouldn't really be considered a major character, no? With Odin out of the way, that would leave Thor to become king in Thor 3 (finally). That, and I heard Anthony Hopkins doesn't want to do any more Thor movies
Welcome Aboard first off Ostrich! We ARE hoping for Surtur at one point, MAYBE a slim chance at the tail end of Thor 2.
Ray/Volstagg dropped a hint that Thor does some things in a KINGLY manner AND we've actually seen Toy packaging with Thor wearing the Helmet on most of it.(the Helmet in the movies is mostly a CROWN not protective gear) That just tells most of us that Thor does become King FINALLY.
See, Thor could be King with Odin still alive and Odin would be free to give HIS attention to the rest of the universe over focusing on Asgard alone.

In the Comics, Frigga is Thor's step mother and Gaea (mother Earth) is Thor's biological mother. Frigga barely made appearances in the regular Comic book sadly until Recently with the rest of Asgard's mothers, so who knows what we have going with Frigga really. lol


So you know who we are referring to when we say "Rune Thor", long story short, Odin dies sacrificing Himself as a missle at Surtur Destorying them both.
THOR then becomes Lord of Asgard, the ALL-Father. He has to EARN the use of the Odin-Force, (the power Odin controls to rule Asgard).
In order to do that, Thor has to go through Trials (and out do Odin's Trails) Odin had to go through to use the Odin-Force. Thor becomes RUNE-THOR who was more powerful than Odin himself!

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Uhm.. no idea if this is legit, or not, but.. this transcript of an Empire article was posted on tumblr. And it sounds kind of interesting.
(may be the slightest bit spoilery)

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Uhm.. no idea if this is legit, or not, but.. this transcript of an Empire article was posted on tumblr. And it sounds kind of interesting.
(may be the slightest bit spoilery)
Very cool. Wish we had that already here

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Okay, now there are Low Res photos of the article, too.
Gotta love the Selvig quote !

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Okay, now there are Low Res photos of the article, too.
Gotta love the Selvig quote !
I've said it before, but my goodness I will go ahead and say it again (and keep on saying it)... that first scan, the picture of Thor, I really REALLY love how they opted to do his hair in this film (as opposed to how it was on Thor and Avengers - and don't get me wrong, I loved his Avengers hair too). I know that can seem like such a trivial thing...but it just really works

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Welcome Aboard first off Ostrich! We ARE hoping for Surtur at one point, MAYBE a slim chance at the tail end of Thor 2.
Honestly, with all of these tidbits that are coming out, Surtur still sounds reasonably plausible to me.

A big threat on Asgard, possible death of Odin, Loki/Thor teaming up, Malekith...

We'll see. It could be they've just taken a lot of pieces of the Surtur Saga and plugged in a different massive threat for the finale of the film. Maybe, I guess. But a lot of this looks very familiar.

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I think the new bits from Empire point to Thanos and crew being responsible for the invasions. The article indicates that it's *not* the Dark Elves who are invading, but that Malekith is on a parallel course to the raids we're seeing in Asgard, and the plots only intertwine in the end.

The Selvig scene sounds hilarious.

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Just because it's easy to take it for granted: Hemsworth was one amazing casting choice for Thor. Awesome image there.

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I think the new bits from Empire point to Thanos and crew being responsible for the invasions. The article indicates that it's *not* the Dark Elves who are invading, but that Malekith is on a parallel course to the raids we're seeing in Asgard, and the plots only intertwine in the end.

The Selvig scene sounds hilarious.
But it also says that this has been taking place ever since Thor destroyed the Bi-Frost Bridge and that event in itself was one year before the events of the Avengers.

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Even if Thanos isn't behind the invasion, they have to mention him at some point. His threat to Loki needs to be addressed.

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Welcome Aboard first off Ostrich! We ARE hoping for Surtur at one point, MAYBE a slim chance at the tail end of Thor 2.
Ray/Volstagg dropped a hint that Thor does some things in a KINGLY manner AND we've actually seen Toy packaging with Thor wearing the Helmet on most of it.(the Helmet in the movies is mostly a CROWN not protective gear) That just tells most of us that Thor does become King FINALLY.
See, Thor could be King with Odin still alive and Odin would be free to give HIS attention to the rest of the universe over focusing on Asgard alone.

In the Comics, Frigga is Thor's step mother and Gaea (mother Earth) is Thor's biological mother. Frigga barely made appearances in the regular Comic book sadly until Recently with the rest of Asgard's mothers, so who knows what we have going with Frigga really. lol


So you know who we are referring to when we say "Rune Thor", long story short, Odin dies sacrificing Himself as a missle at Surtur Destorying them both.
THOR then becomes Lord of Asgard, the ALL-Father. He has to EARN the use of the Odin-Force, (the power Odin controls to rule Asgard).
In order to do that, Thor has to go through Trials (and out do Odin's Trails) Odin had to go through to use the Odin-Force. Thor becomes RUNE-THOR who was more powerful than Odin himself!
Thank you for the welcome!

Ah, the Odin-Force. Everyone wants it! I remember reading when Loki convinces Odin to banish Thor and to give himself part of the Odin Force when he's left in charge of "looking after Asgard."

I guess the more important question is, will they even make a Thor 3? I've never really found any information regarding the number of movies the actors have been contracted to play in. I suppose it'll depend on the success of Thor 2. After all, I haven't heard of any more Fantastic Four movies being made ()

I know it's not likely, but I would love it if Odin punished Loki at the end of Thor 2 by turning him into a tree like he did in the comic books, because let's face it, Loki will probably do something horrible and sneaky in TDW.

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Even if Thanos isn't behind the invasion, they have to mention him at some point. His threat to Loki needs to be addressed.
Absolutely. The scene in the Avengers with Loki and the Other and his threat that, if Loki fails, there will be no place he can hide was too big to be ignored.

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That Selvig scene sounds morbid.

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Even if Thanos isn't behind the invasion, they have to mention him at some point. His threat to Loki needs to be addressed.
Exactly.
And even if the invasion(s) began pre-TA1, I'm still betting on Thanos being the instigator. I still believe in the Odin's Treasury scene from Thor 1 that showed the Gauntlet in the vault, so I still believe that's what Thanos is obviously after from the get-go.

Thor breaks Bifrost; the Nine Realms are shattered; Thanos tries to capitalize on the chaos by fronting marauding armies to hammer (*pun*) Asgard, while he looks for a way to break into Odin's Vault; meanwhile, Loki shows up on his cosmic doorstep, offering to steal the Cosmic Cube in exchange for a mercenary army to aid him in taking over Earth. Thanos sees opportunity knocking, plays Loki like a pawn, and deftly maneuvers the Cube into place in Asgard so that he's now got his back-door into the Treasury. The Gauntlet is now his. Game, set, match --- Thanos.

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Selvig humping Thor sounds awkward. Kinda Michael bay-Ish. Hope it gets cut

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Selvig humping Thor sounds awkward. Kinda Michael bay-Ish. Hope it gets cut
They mention the crew laughing in the background, so while I'm sure we'll see Selvig hugging Thor in his underpants ( hey, that's medication for you) the whole Selvig leg-humping Thor part will probably be saved for the gag reel.

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Exactly.
And even if the invasion(s) began pre-TA1, I'm still betting on Thanos being the instigator. I still believe in the Odin's Treasury scene from Thor 1 that showed the Gauntlet in the vault, so I still believe that's what Thanos is obviously after from the get-go.

Thor breaks Bifrost; the Nine Realms are shattered; Thanos tries to capitalize on the chaos by fronting marauding armies to hammer (*pun*) Asgard, while he looks for a way to break into Odin's Vault; meanwhile, Loki shows up on his cosmic doorstep, offering to steal the Cosmic Cube in exchange for a mercenary army to aid him in taking over Earth. Thanos sees opportunity knocking, plays Loki like a pawn, and deftly maneuvers the Cube into place in Asgard so that he's now got his back-door into the Treasury. The Gauntlet is now his. Game, set, match --- Thanos.
Wow, very manipulative, and perfect for Thanos. I love it!

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Yeah that's a little much, I'm sure it's gonna get cut but if not oh well it wont make or break the movie.

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Exactly.
And even if the invasion(s) began pre-TA1, I'm still betting on Thanos being the instigator. I still believe in the Odin's Treasury scene from Thor 1 that showed the Gauntlet in the vault, so I still believe that's what Thanos is obviously after from the get-go.

Thor breaks Bifrost; the Nine Realms are shattered; Thanos tries to capitalize on the chaos by fronting marauding armies to hammer (*pun*) Asgard, while he looks for a way to break into Odin's Vault; meanwhile, Loki shows up on his cosmic doorstep, offering to steal the Cosmic Cube in exchange for a mercenary army to aid him in taking over Earth. Thanos sees opportunity knocking, plays Loki like a pawn, and deftly maneuvers the Cube into place in Asgard so that he's now got his back-door into the Treasury. The Gauntlet is now his. Game, set, match --- Thanos.
If that's the case, then I wonder what's stopped from Thanos from simply appearing on Odin's doorstep since the events of Thor:TDW takes place one year after the events of "The Avengers".

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If that's the case, then I wonder what's stopped from Thanos from simply appearing on Odin's doorstep since the events of Thor:TDW takes place one year after the events of "The Avengers".
He was too busy trying to court Death?

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If that's the case, then I wonder what's stopped from Thanos from simply appearing on Odin's doorstep since the events of Thor:TDW takes place one year after the events of "The Avengers".
there's got to be more to it than that. If and when he acquires the gauntlet, I dont think he'll waltz in. Here's why. Look at marvel. Everything goiing on is involving alternate timelines. Dofp. Age of Ultron in the comics, and infinity as well. isgotg possibly taking place in the future, or another reality.

The IG displayed is right handed opposed to left. What if it came from a mirror universe? Notice how malekith's left side of his face is dark opposed to the right...that's another opposite, and I'm banking it has something to do with this timeline crap.

There's too much going on with alternate timelines in Marvel right now...it's going to play a role soon in the MCU, and it's going to have something to do with Thanos and the IG, i'm willing to bet.

Age of Ultron, Dofp, both have alternate timeline things, along with two of the same characters in two separate universe...not to mention possible time travel in guardians of the galaxy.

It's just a hunch and I could be looking into it too deeply, but it just, I don't know. I am trusting my gut. I feel like it's going to come into play in the MCU very soon, time travel and the concept of multiple timelines

I think these timeline stuff may even come to light. Maybe that's how heimdall's powers work.

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They mention the crew laughing in the background, so while I'm sure we'll see Selvig hugging Thor in his underpants ( hey, that's medication for you) the whole Selvig leg-humping Thor part will probably be saved for the gag reel.
Most likely, but I suppose we might as well brace ourselves for people complaining about it from now until the end of time.

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Most likely, but I suppose we might as well brace ourselves for people complaining about it from now until the end of time.
True. And there will even be people complaining that Thor didn't have his helmet on while Selvig was humping him.

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Yep they're gonna have a field day with this one.

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Honestly, with all of these tidbits that are coming out, Surtur still sounds reasonably plausible to me.

A big threat on Asgard, possible death of Odin, Loki/Thor teaming up, Malekith...

We'll see. It could be they've just taken a lot of pieces of the Surtur Saga and plugged in a different massive threat for the finale of the film. Maybe, I guess. But a lot of this looks very familiar.
Yeah to ME it looks like they're mashing together the Surtur saga, Death of Odin/Regining Arcs, for Dark World.
It would be VERY VERY Cool to see and hear the hammering of the Twilight Sword through the film getting alittle louder as it goes on until the post credit and the loudest "DOOM" as Surtur makes that closing Pound of the Twilight sword framing him in the shot.

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