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Old 06-16-2013, 05:27 PM   #851
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S***! Makes me wonder how Cap 2 is going to compete action wise with these movies (IM3, Thor 2, MoS).
Ummm... it'll compete by being a different brand of action. Grounded and practical as opposed to grand, epic, and full of CGI. Did the plane chase in Superman Returns make the parkour chase in Casino Royale any less impressive? No. Two different breeds of action.

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Supes and Zod's flying was a large factor as to why their fight was so big, Kurse can't fly so I don't see his fight being as big. I thought the Smallville fight was much cooler than the final fight, I'd like for Kurse and Thor's fight to be more like that.

The vehicle tossing, multiple attack combos, super slams, and overall visceralness of the Smallville fight was tops.
Yeah. Obviously Kurse won't fly, I just mean like...letting loose. Not holding back the characters potential in combat...specifically, thor and Kurse brawling everywhere, punches and strikes that send the other flyying. Thor using some BIG weather..big powers being shown

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Yeah. Obviously Kurse won't fly, I just mean like...letting loose. Not holding back the characters potential in combat...specifically, thor and Kurse brawling everywhere, punches and strikes that send the other flyying. Thor using some BIG weather..big powers being shown
That's why I say the Smallville fight is a better example, there were super powered punches, kicks, slams, tackles, and destruction. There were ever a couple of awesome vehicle tosses and slams during the melee.

Not to mention the fact that the Smallville fight was the best fight in the film.

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I know it's not a favorite among the THOR faithful, but the battle in HULK VS. is a pretty good starting point for what I want to see in a throwdown with KURSE. Notice I wrote STARTING POINT? THOR did not give up in that fight, used his weapon to land strong blows and used his physical might to great affect and was shown to be a skilled warrior. The difference with a clash against KURSE in DARK WORLD should be THOR using his weather control to make up for the difference in strength. I want to see Hemmstworth call down all manner of power from the sky in this.

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S***! Makes me wonder how Cap 2 is going to compete action wise with these movies (IM3, Thor 2, MoS).
Well if Cap 2 has better story-telling, character development, camera work and phasing than Man of Steel, it doesn't matter if the action sequences aren't so large.

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I know it's not a favorite among the THOR faithful, but the battle in HULK VS. is a pretty good starting point for what I want to see in a throwdown with KURSE. Notice I wrote STARTING POINT? THOR did not give up in that fight, used his weapon to land strong blows and used his physical might to great affect and was shown to be a skilled warrior. The difference with a clash against KURSE in DARK WORLD should be THOR using his weather control to make up for the difference in strength. I want to see Hemmstworth call down all manner of power from the sky in this.
Besides the last half of that fight Thor did some cool things in HULK Vs, his lightning charged hammer throw as badass. He also did some pretty cool combos with Mjolnir along with some cool blocks and counter attacks.

I still don't want to see Kurse pummel Thor though, I want him to be stronger but I don't want Thor to look a wimp. Thor didn't show much super strength without using Mjolnir in his fight on Hulk Vs either.

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Yeah if that Prelude comic is actual story then I can't WAIT to see some REAL THOR lol

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Besides the last half of that fight Thor did some cool things in HULK Vs, his lightning charged hammer throw as badass. He also did some pretty cool combos with Mjolnir along with some cool blocks and counter attacks.

I still don't want to see Kurse pummel Thor though, I want him to be stronger but I don't want Thor to look a wimp. Thor didn't show much super strength without using Mjolnir in his fight on Hulk Vs either.
I want THOR to look like he has been taken to the limit, but of course still come out on top. I hope that his clothing also takes a beating. Would love if some of the armor was just shredded and his cape totally gone. It's funny that even before the films there was a tendency in the comics to show THOR without his head gear, but his cape still attached. Where I always wanted to see him with his battle helm and his cape torn off.

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I want THOR to look like he has been taken to the limit, but of course still come out on top. I hope that his clothing also takes a beating. Would love if some of the armor was just shredded and his cape totally gone. It's funny that even before the films there was a tendency in the comics to show THOR without his head gear, but his cape still attached. Where I always wanted to see him with his battle helm and his cape torn off.
In the teaser trailer you can see his cape is burned and shreded in a lot of areas.

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Someone else on Box Office has confirmed that the trailer will be with TLR. I really don't want to pay money to see that movie.

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It will probably be online before then anyway. If you want to see it on the big screen, it will probably play with The Wolverine

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Thor did some reshoots yesterday apparently. Hopefully this is a sign that Taylor is willing to play ball.

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Thor did some reshoots yesterday apparently. Hopefully this is a sign that Taylor is willing to play ball.
I'm on the director's side with this, judging from past MCU films what Fiege says about the runtime isn't always best for the film. The Incredible, Thor, and Captain America would've been better with about 15-20 more minutes of story.

Those films are still great but they could've been better if they were given more time to be feshed out. So if Taylor thinks a 2 hr and 30 min Thor film is best then I agree, why not since IM3 had a 2hr and 15 min runtime.

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I'm not going to see that either. I hope they aren't using the trailer to force us to see the movie. like not releasing the trailer online for weeks after The Lone Ranger has shown.
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Supes and Zod's flying was a large factor as to why their fight was so big, Kurse can't fly so I don't see his fight being as big. I thought the Smallville fight was much cooler than the final fight, I'd like for Kurse and Thor's fight to be more like that.




The vehicle tossing, multiple attack combos, super slams, and overall visceralness of the Smallville fight was tops.
I think Zod was super jumping for half the battle. I don't think he learned to fly untill he took his armor off. So the fight with Kurse would be like that half
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That's why I say the Smallville fight is a better example, there were super powered punches, kicks, slams, tackles, and destruction. There were ever a couple of awesome vehicle tosses and slams during the melee.

Not to mention the fact that the Smallville fight was the best fight in the film.
I loved both but i like the smallville one a little more also. There was more complexity since he was being double teamed.

The smallville fight was more about speed and skill with a mid level power.


The Metropolis fight was just about raw high level power.


It would be nice to have Thor do speed and magic with Malekith and Raw power blows with Kurse. God i just want to see what they do with Kurse!!! We probably wont get to see him untill trailer 3 though. lol It's like waiting for the Hulk to pop up in the avengers trailer all over again.

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I'm on the director's side with this, judging from past MCU films what Fiege says about the runtime isn't always best for the film. The Incredible, Thor, and Captain America would've been better with about 15-20 more minutes of story.

Those films are still great but they could've been better if they were given more time to be feshed out. So if Taylor thinks a 2 hr and 30 min Thor film is best then I agree, why not since IM3 had a 2hr and 15 min runtime.
Yes, in terms of quality it's most likely better to keep what the rumors say Taylor wanted. Action doesn't mean enough if it's not built up by the characters and the story and such things take time, even when we have a couple of films with Thor already. I want the secondary characters to be fleshed out more, especially Heimdall as I'm very fond of how he's been portrayed. There's also probably a lot of locations that need to be sufficiently established and you want to be immersed in them.

Pacing is of course another relevant issue but 2,5 hours certainly doesn't seem overly long.

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What exactly was going on between Taylor and Marvel anyway? Was it all just about runtimes?
I don't think there's enough information to know that, or even to actually confirm that there actually have been any problems. The only clear info that was rumored was about Alan not meeting the expected runtime though.

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I don't think there's enough information to know that, or even to actually confirm that there actually have been any problems. The only clear info that was rumored was about Alan not meeting the expected runtime though.
If runtime *is* a sticking point, as is rumored, Taylor now has ammunition in his favor. MoS runs 2:40, and *still* nabbed almost $120 mil OW. Both movies have similar themes (alien super-gods fighting epically on earth and in the stars), so hopefully Feige/Marvel are seriously rethinking their whole 2-hour mantra right now.

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It would be nice to have Thor do speed and magic with Malekith and Raw power blows with Kurse. God i just want to see what they do with Kurse!!! We probably wont get to see him untill trailer 3 though. lol It's like waiting for the Hulk to pop up in the avengers trailer all over again.
Maybe, Malekith is a drunken actor who is actually working for the World Security Council.

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Zing!

Malekith should definitely get the Trevor treatment because the way he comes off in the comics is a racist stereotype that paints Dark Elves in a negative light.

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The man. Of steel fights were amazing. Loved how the blows feel powerful and sent people flying. That's how I want it to be in Thor. Made me realize how much better the destroyer fight could have been

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Basically the fight scenes in MOS were, Zod hits superman a building falls(hundreds die), superman hits Zod another building falls (thousands die). Zod hits superman another building falls (tens of thousands die), superman hits zod and another building ..Oh well you get the picture..
And lets not forget the shaky camera work from the Bourne series to top it off.....And don't get me started on how and for whom Jonathan Kent sacrifices his life for ....At some point I was hoping Captain America would show up and say are we done here!!!!....


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