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Old 05-01-2013, 09:53 AM   #51
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I had a feeling this is how Rhino would go down, but I was a little hesitant to say anything. He could very well end up as the full-fledged Rhino later down the line, but if this is his only look through the film then Webb might be taking a hint from the all-new Ultimate Spider-Man. One of the first villains Miles goes up against is the Ultimate Scorpion:


He was basically a Mexican drug dealer who had Luke Cage-ish type powers. I'm thinking Rhino might end up being something similar. Still a mobster, but enhanced slightly with Rhino DNA and given a strength boost. It could end up being something to the effect of Norman perfecting the formula to somewhat mirror what happened to Peter, i.e. they get all the benefits of the animal but don't actually turn into it like Connors did.

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Same. I like the suit idea for this series/universe of Spider-Man. It'll broaden things out.

Maybe style-wise, I'd want it a little less cartoony than it is in that picture...less horns/spikes and such. But I feel Marc and his team know how to stylize and modernize at the same time.

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Didn't say it was ideal, but I'm not ruling it out. I really do think it's a possibility at this point.

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would anyone here be...let down if the RHINO didn't have a horn? so the suit would just be a technologically advanced /military grade suit. Like USM R.H.I.N.O would only be an abreviation, or refer to the materials the suit is? like instead of mechanic or metal, would be just like a really tough hide...like a Rhinos skin. Just throwing ideas around lol
I'd definitely be disappointed if he didn't have the horn. I totally see where you're going, and I actually wouldn't mind that direction as long as he is huge as he is supposed to be + a horn.
Instead of a tough hide, I'd want the mechanical though.

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They're sticking a lot closer to the 616 backgrounds of the characters than I thought they would. Max Dillon is an electrician who gets into an accident and Alex O'Hirin is a Russian mobster. I'd be surprised if they don't go the route of a suit getting stuck on him somehow. I can see it being like TSSM and having Rhino be the product of Oscorp experimentation on a resin armor shaped like a Rhino.

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I wonder have they started to work on a teaser trailer.
Prob not. I don't expect to see a teaser until sometime after San Diego CC.

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i guess the only concrete thing we can take away from this new photo is that paul is not playing JJ.

which begs the question, will he even be in the movie?
If JJJ is in this movie, I don't remember getting any news about his casting. That's a significant role imo so I'd think there would be some kind of info regarding the actor playing him.

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Personally I have trouble picturing that albino Russian Goomba getting his hands on some Oscorp cross-species stuff. I'd expect something more like a suit. Though I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
It could also be a mix of both. I'm not sure either how they'd tie in a Russian mobster with Oscorp...some kind of a quid pro quo situation maybe. I dunno.

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Didn't say it was ideal, but I'm not ruling it out. I really do think it's a possibility at this point.
Nothing wrong with speculation, man. Me personally, I would rather see a full-on Rhino either with some kind of suit, cross-species, or a mix of both.

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They're sticking a lot closer to the 616 backgrounds of the characters than I thought they would. Max Dillon is an electrician who gets into an accident and Alex O'Hirin is a Russian mobster. I'd be surprised if they don't go the route of a suit getting stuck on him somehow. I can see it being like TSSM and having Rhino be the product of Oscorp experimentation on a resin armor shaped like a Rhino.
They would have to do a lot more than that though. As much as I like TSSM, Rhino didn't make a whole lot of sense. How does he suddenly gain superhuman strength, just because he's got some impenetrable armor grafted on his skin? He actually shouldn't have been able to move.

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They would have to do a lot more than that though. As much as I like TSSM, Rhino didn't make a whole lot of sense. How does he suddenly gain superhuman strength, just because he's got some impenetrable armor grafted on his skin? He actually shouldn't have been able to move.
The suit could be like a Mech though. Take this for example.



Ripley from Aliens used this to defeat the Queen. It was basically a suit that gave her incredible strength. Although it doesn't cover her entire body like the Rhino most likely will, it's the same principle. There's some type of hydraulic power source or possibly some other more advanced tech that provides the muscle.

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id prefer a cross species rhino, at least he'd look more like the character. And it makes perfect sense after lizard. It makes far more sense actually than Electro/Eels...

I think Alexi will be sent to Ravencroft and experimented upon by Oscorp

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at least he'd look more like the character
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Prob not. I don't expect to see a teaser until sometime after San Diego CC.
I believe they're stirring up footage for a teaser as we speak.

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wasn't he unable to take the suit off in the comics? i'm not sure that could work here though

if it was cross species he was stuck as maybe

both have pros and cons

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Nothing wrong with speculation, man. Me personally, I would rather see a full-on Rhino either with some kind of suit, cross-species, or a mix of both.
I'm honestly starting to see it as a real possibility. ASM eludes to the fact that Oscorp was trying to produce a result that gave Peter his powers. The deleted scene with Ratha pretty much proves that.

I think it's very possible that Osborn will come close to perfecting the serum and test it on Alexsei, giving him a result similar to Peter. So we'd see him as kind of an Ultimate Scorpion type villain at that point.

I can also see a character like Alexsei, who is well known for not thinking things through, doping up even more after Spidey kicks him around a little bit, which would then give us the Rhino as we all know him.

So the only arc I can see Alexsei having in this movie would probably go something like this:
-Gets foiled by Spidey in the car chase scene
-Osborn finds him and shoots him up with Rhino juices
-Stage 1 Rhino loses to Spidey
-He dopes up more making him the big bad Rhino
-He tries to take down Spidey and possibly Electro?

Electro is the thing that makes Rhino difficult. If Rhino has any kind of arc in this movie like I've described, how do you also give the time to compliment Max Dillon's arc? Is Spidey immeidately going to take down Electro once he comes into contact with him, will Electro try and appeal to Spidey to try and help him, will Electro go crazy and side with Rhino because he thinks Spidey betrays him?

It worries me but it also gives me hope because you've got two really solid actors in Giamatti and Foxx playing these characters. When you think about it, Electro and Rhino are usually at the bottom of the totem pole as far as Spidey's rouges gallery is concerned, usually resulting to no more than hired muscle or a distraction to Kingpin or Doc Ock. Could we possibly be seeing the early foundations of a sinister 6 with Osborn at the head? I really do like the idea of two powerhouse actors playing two villains who are usually seen as grunts. They've got nowhere to go but up from there.

But there's always the flip-side of that coin and they could possibly just be cramming too much in at once. Let's hope not.

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I wonder if maybe Electro takes down Rhino. His electric powers short out Rhino's suit leaving him helpless, and then he is killing Rhino... Spidey intervenes, and Electro feels unappreciated and betrayed by Spidey. Just random speculation.

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I wonder if maybe Electro takes down Rhino. His electric powers short out Rhino's suit leaving him helpless, and then he is killing Rhino... Spidey intervenes, and Electro feels unappreciated and betrayed by Spidey. Just random speculation.
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I wonder if maybe Electro takes down Rhino. His electric powers short out Rhino's suit leaving him helpless, and then he is killing Rhino... Spidey intervenes, and Electro feels unappreciated and betrayed by Spidey. Just random speculation.
i like this , he thinks he is the hero but in the end he ends up beeing the villain

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electro may end up being a sympathetic villain in some form or another

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I wonder if maybe Electro takes down Rhino. His electric powers short out Rhino's suit leaving him helpless, and then he is killing Rhino... Spidey intervenes, and Electro feels unappreciated and betrayed by Spidey. Just random speculation.
Yeah I see something similar happening here. I am pretty sure though Rhino will be out of the picture by the time the real Electro comes into play.

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are they filming outside today?

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They'll be filming the chase scene in Rochester for the next 2 weeks.

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So what... Rhino is a mobster that ****s up a lowly technician for not paying the electric bills, and Electro gets revenge old school way? Guess it's simple enough.

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