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Old 05-23-2013, 11:32 PM   #301
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Oh you mean that antagonistic "Before he was an Avenger" tweet Singer took down?

Please show us via sources that both studios have known for a long time the other was planning to use the same character in a movie that would be closely released to the other.
We aren't allowed to bring that fact into play.

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Old 05-23-2013, 11:34 PM   #302
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Does Marvel get to look at X-Men scripts prior to full production on the films? I would assume they do (It recently came to light that Akira Toriyama was shown the Dragonball Evolution script prior to production, and he advised Fox to not use it. They didn't listen). If that's the case, Marvel would have known what characters were set to be in the film.

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I love, that this is getting so much attention when Pietro's role in either film will be a supporting role at best. I hope they make him the Ultimate version, incest and all.

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Yeah and those "extroardinary people" have had their powers explained. Having said that since at Fox Quicksilver's powers are "mutant" then an A2 Quicksilver inevitably needs some other form of explanation. You can't just plot him out there as an empty character. It breaks from all the "explaining" you did for other heroes and villains unlike.
Well you know, there's that hole in the brain of every human that gives them powers when activated that AIM was experimenting on...

As for his backstory as a whole, it doesn't include Magneto at all. I've said this about 4756394758475 times already, but Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's origin DO NOT include Magneto. Him being their father was a retcon and their entire history prior to them finding out about him being their father 20 years after their first appearance can only be told by Marvel. Wanda and Pietro are orphans whose mother ran away from their power hungry father and left them with an entity known as the High Evolutionary, who then gave them to a Gypsy couple to raise. Right before that, another entity known as Chthon imbued Wanda with hex powers so he could one day take over her body. This has absolutely nothing to do with them being mutants or them being the children of Magneto, and this could even be used to explain their powers as the High Evolutionary experiments on creatures to "evolve" them. Their history as Avengers characters far outweigh their history as Magneto's children and their role in the MU as mutants.

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I hope they make him the Ultimate version, incest and all.

Ew, no thanks.

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I love, that this is getting so much attention when Pietro's role in either film will be a supporting role at best. I hope they make him the Ultimate version, incest and all.
Even the supporting roles matter in a Joss film.

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Even the supporting roles matter in a Joss film.
Bah, BAH I say!

The only role that matters in Joss' films is Mark Ruffalo's.

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Not sure if its been posted here, but the latest updates for HitFix on the Quicksilver story says that Fox has the rights to use the Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch names while Marvel has the rights to use the Pietro Maximoff and Wanda Maximoff names.

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Oh you mean that antagonistic "Before he was an Avenger" tweet Singer took down?
Where was I talking about that at?

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Please show us via sources that both studios have known for a long time the other was planning to use the same character in a movie that would be closely released to the other.
Read Feige's past comments. It's not that hard to find the interview, it was released jsut last week. He specifically said there was an arrangement in place for both studios to use the characters. This means they sat down and made a deal to use the characters. That means they've both known they would eventually be using the characters in their respective film series. It's not that hard to grasp this stuff.

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Bah, BAH I say!

The only role that matters in Joss' films is Mark Ruffalo's.
That isn't unfair.

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I love, that this is getting so much attention when Pietro's role in either film will be a supporting role at best. I hope they make him the Ultimate version, incest and all.
No, it sounds like he and Wanda will be integral characters in A2 while in DOFP he will just be used in one action scene. Major difference in roles.

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No, it sounds like he and Wanda will be integral characters in A2 while in DOFP he will just be used in one action scene. Major difference in roles.
Ok.

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Where was I talking about that at?


Read Feige's past comments. It's not that hard to find the interview, it was released jsut last week. He specifically said there was an arrangement in place for both studios to use the characters. This means they sat down and made a deal to use the characters. That means they've both known they would eventually be using the characters in their respective film series. It's not that hard to grasp this stuff.
I thought what he said was that the characters fall into a grey area and that both studios can use them. He also mentioned that they can't mention Magento and mutants and that Fox can't mention Avengers.

This was brought up because many have been wondering if they did have the rights to use the character.

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I thought what he said was that the characters fall into a grey area and that both studios can use them. He also mentioned that they can't mention Magento and mutants and that Fox can't mention Avengers.

This was brought up because many have been wondering if they did have the rights to use the character.
Yes he did say that at an event last year. But recently, like last week, he said there was an arrangement in place for both studios to use the characters when asked about them after the news about them being in A2 came out. It's very easy to find it and you probably already read it and didn't think much of the quote. But when you read between the lines, given the language he used it's clear they had sat down and made a legal arrangement as to how to go about using the character do they wouldn't step on each others' toes.

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Yes he did say that at an event last year. But recently, like last week, he said there was an arrangement in place for both studios to use the characters when asked about them after the news about them being in A2 came out. It's very easy to find it and you probably already read it and didn't think much of the quote. But when you read between the lines, given the language he used it's clear they had sat down and made a legal arrangement as to how to go about using the character do they wouldn't step on each others' toes.
Could you provide the link? Because I honestly don't remember reading that and I have read a few things on it.

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Son of a *****!

As soon as Whedon's plans for Wanda & Pietro became public, I just knew those bastards at Fox would cook up some plan to use them in a half-assed way just to screw Marvel over. So now Singer has a dumbass way to use Pietro in one scene, has just inserted him in and cast the role and is flinging **** Marvel's way on Twitter. Perfect. And just what I expected.

I had no interest in DOFP before, but now I hope it does as well as Jack the Giant Slayer did.

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Could you provide the link? Because I honestly don't remember reading that and I have read a few things on it.
http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...the-avengers-2

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"We both have them," Feige told SuperHeroHype last summer. "There's a specific arrangement with those two characters that would allow us to use them with 'Avengers,' but not discuss or reference their mutant or Magneto-related lineage. They can use them as mutants and as Magneto's relatives, but cannot have anything to do with 'The Avengers'."

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Son of a *****!

As soon as Whedon's plans for Wanda & Pietro became public, I just knew those bastards at Fox would cook up some plan to use them in a half-assed way just to screw Marvel over. So now Singer has a dumbass way to use Pietro in one scene, has just inserted him in and cast the role and is flinging **** Marvel's way on Twitter. Perfect. And just what I expected.

I had no interest in DOFP before, but now I hope it does as well as Jack the Giant Slayer did.

This is a perfect example of the wrong way to view the situation.

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This is a perfect example of the wrong way to view the situation.
lol, QFT

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Son of a *****!

As soon as Whedon's plans for Wanda & Pietro became public, I just knew those bastards at Fox would cook up some plan to use them in a half-assed way just to screw Marvel over. So now Singer has a dumbass way to use Pietro in one scene, has just inserted him in and cast the role and is flinging **** Marvel's way on Twitter. Perfect. And just what I expected.

I had no interest in DOFP before, but now I hope it does as well as Jack the Giant Slayer did.
It doesn't matter. DoFP will feature the kid from American Horror Story using speed powers for a scene or two, while Avengers will have a fully fleshed-out, plot-relevant supporting character. That's a fair trade-off.

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It doesn't matter. DoFP will feature the kid from American Horror Story using speed powers for a scene or two, while Avengers will have a fully fleshed-out, plot-relevant supporting character. That's a fair trade-off.
Yeah I don't think the character will even be recognizable between the two films beyond having the same power. He won't even have teh same name.

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I find it ironic people going on about how Avengers is more likely to fully flesh out a character when frankly they're going to have about as much time to do much with a second fiddle character as what Fox will. This thread has been a hoot to read.

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I find it ironic people going on about how Avengers is more likely to fully flesh out a character when frankly they're going to have about as much time to do much with a second fiddle character as what Fox will. This thread has been a hoot to read.
Wow. I usually like your posts but this is bad. Quicksilver will be used for ONE action sequence in DOFP while he will have an integral and large role in Avengers 2. It's completely different. Quicksilver will basically just be another glorified throwaway character in DOFP if this is true, and the unimaginative casting suggests that as well. It doesn't even sound like his role will be on the level of Havok's from FC.

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Wow. I usually like your posts but this is bad. Quicksilver will be used for ONE action sequence in DOFP while he will have an integral and large role in Avengers 2. It's completely different. Quicksilver will basically just be another glorified throwaway character in DOFP if this is true, and the unimaginative casting suggests that as well. It doesn't even sound like his role will be on the level of Havok's from FC.
People are blowing their collective ****s over nothing. Sorry, but the level of fanboyism is frankly absurd. I find it ironic you're willing to give Marvel the benefit of the doubt with the character but not Singer.

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