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Old 05-11-2013, 01:13 PM   #51
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It could be the opening, you're right, it may not be. I don't know why they'd have to "keep tradition" though. Starting the first film with him as a kid was a logically choice. Batman Begins started with Bruce as a kid. Doesn't mean the sequel with.
Even if the flashback isn't the opening scene (which, come on, it is. They even shot it first) then it would be Spidey catching that thug wearing a Spider-Man mask.

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You know sometimes i hate when people complain just to complain without knowing if is true or not:
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Remember Spider-Man 3, probably one of the worst superhero movies, which main issue was to have too many vilains? Same thing here... Electro, Rhino, Osborn, ...
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do we know that Normain is going to be GG in this movie or that paul becomesthe rhino? not yet .. but they must complain about everything in the movie when we havnŽt had a trailer yet....

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^^It pays to just wait and see

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You know sometimes i hate when people complain just to complain without knowing if is true or not:

do we know that Normain is going to be GG in this movie or that paul becomesthe rhino? not yet .. but they must complain about everything in the movie when we havnŽt had a trailer yet....
People seem to either assume Osborn means green goblin, but I doubt he will be green goblin in is film, maybe a hint at green goblin but that's about it

I doubt Norman will be a villian in this movie, just a mysterious person leading to a 3rd

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Getting so excited for this!

Loving that the whole movie's being filmed in NY for the 1st time, that's pretty awesome in itself.

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Having three villains is not the main problem from Spider-Man 3.

The main problems with Spider-Man 3 were having:
-The Black Suit story
-Gwen-MJ-Peter triangle (add Harry Osborn and Eddie Brock to that)
-Harry Osborn whole storyline
-Emo Peter, feud with Brock, getting horny, getting sad.
-Terrible terrible dialogues (even J.J is missing something there)

And, of course, the villains:
-Sandman, his daughter
-Again, part of the Harry Osborn story
-Venom, because why the **** not.

Personally, if at least they had kept the Sandman's daughter kidnap by Venom, the whole final battle would have been cooler. Without it, Sandman just becomes evil because "BAD SPODERMAN". I also think that the Construction Site is one of the best scenes I've ever seen in a superhero movie (if you exclude the stupid kid scenes intercalated there).

I think that, having three villains in TASM 2 (which I don't think there are, really) is not necessarily a problem. The problem is if they can't handle them well.

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-small rant-

these reporters need to get their facts straight, because they keep on saying it rhino when marc didnt tweet rhino but before he even becomes him and as for now im goin to stop looking at the comments because they are soo face palm worthy , that your face would be numb from how many times you facepalmed...

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these reporters need to get their facts straight, because they keep on saying it rhino when marc didnt tweet rhino but before he even becomes him and as for now im goin to stop looking at the comments because they are soo face palm worthy , that your face would be numb from how many times you facepalmed...
Yeah that's why it's better to not read comments at all. People are jumping to the conclusion that he won't become Rhino and that it'll be a nickname, sort of how they said Paul Giamatti was ridiculous choice because he couldn't look badass. Yet, that begs the question, WHAT is in the OSCORP truck? and WHY have Alexsei steal an Oscorp truck to begin with?? If he was just a Russian thug who likes crashing into cars or something along those lines, couldn't they have written a less specific scenario?

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i made a rhino meme, but it didn't work.

Just picture something funny, and that's what i did.
haha

And every movie in The Dark Knight trilogy juggled 3 or more villains. Crappy writing killed Spiderman 3 not villain overdose.

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Even if the flashback isn't the opening scene (which, come on, it is. They even shot it first) then it would be Spidey catching that thug wearing a Spider-Man mask.
I'm thinking we get an opening scene involving the parents and then we segue way into Alexsei hijacking the Oscorp truck in present day.

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Yeah that's why it's better to not read comments at all. People are jumping to the conclusion that he won't become Rhino and that it'll be a nickname, sort of how they said Paul Giamatti was ridiculous choice because he couldn't look badass. Yet, that begs the question, WHAT is in the OSCORP truck? and WHY have Alexsei steal an Oscorp truck to begin with?? If he was just a Russian thug who likes crashing into cars or something along those lines, couldn't they have written a less specific scenario?
Agreed and thats why i've always liked it here because its civil for most of the time.
Exactly, in my opinion I believe the suit is in there and its definitely of big importance which tells why there are alot of cop going after them, when you look at the guys they look like trained professionals.

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I'm thinking we get an opening scene involving the parents and then we segue way into Alexsei hijacking the Oscorp truck in present day.
Only way that thug scene makes sense is if it's at the beginning. Especially since it was the first scene they shot in public on the first day of production. I guarantee this chase scene is not the opening.

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haha

And every movie in The Dark Knight trilogy juggled 3 or more villains. Crappy writing killed Spiderman 3 not villain overdose.
Yeah and I don't see how ASM2 couldn't be better than ASM at this point. ASM pretty much had the performances spot on, which I thought carried the film for the most part. All it needed were more impressive action sequences, a completely fresh story and better scripting.

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Only way that thug scene makes sense is if it's at the beginning. Especially since it was the first scene they shot in public on the first day of production. I guarantee this chase scene is not the opening.
most movies do not shoot in order...

and we have no idea ultimately how long this scene is... it could be quick clips, and only be a minute of the story. We have no idea how integral it is or not.

there's no "only way it makes sense"

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I definitely think Webb and co. have to be intentionally building to have a sinister 6 eventually. Especially with the success of Avengers, I can't imagine they wouldn't love to have an Avengers-type Spidey movie of their own. We'll already have 3, possibly 4 villains that can be included in the s6 by the end of TASM2, barring Rhino and Electro both live like Connors did.

I just love the world Webb seems to be created. It doesn't feel necessarily confined or linear, more of a kind of open world, with villains and characters kinda passing in and out. I know the sequel hasn't even come out yet, but that's just the impression I'm getting from this trilogy

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And don't butcher the movie's pacing again with Sony's stupid last minute editing either.
That's the biggest concern for the sequel, imo. I don't have a problem with who's writing the script as I did for the last film, but the editing...that's the biggest problem. Heck, the first film, I feel, would be stronger if it had certain scenes in the final cut that were taken out.

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Having three villains is not the main problem from Spider-Man 3.

The main problems with Spider-Man 3 were having:
-The Black Suit story
Which was part of the villain's story(Venom).

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Again added for the sake of the villains.

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-Harry Osborn whole storyline
Villain.

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Added because of the villain(symbiote).

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All it needed were more impressive action sequences, a completely fresh story and better scripting.
I'd say the sequel will deliver on these accounts.

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Getting so excited for this!

Loving that the whole movie's being filmed in NY for the 1st time, that's pretty awesome in itself.
NY is like a complete character in itself within the Spider-man universe. I hope this comes across in the movie and has an overall effect on the tone.

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I just love the world Webb seems to be created. It doesn't feel necessarily confined or linear, more of a kind of open world, with villains and characters kinda passing in and out. I know the sequel hasn't even come out yet, but that's just the impression I'm getting from this trilogy
I get this impression as well.

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Which was part of the villain's story(Venom).



Again added for the sake of the villains.



Villain.



Added because of the villain(symbiote).
It wasn't the amount of Villains, it was the AMOUT OF WEIGHT each villain had...

Most fans thought it'd take a trilogy to properly pace out the Symbiote/Venom saga anyway... they crammed the suit, the effects, and venom all into one film (which is an overload as is), add the weight to Harry/Green Goblin and that's just yet even more baggage. And on top of that already over-crowded story line.. they gave Sandman a deep and unneeded character development and study and a personal connection with peter parker that wasn't needed...

you probably could have done Sandman/Goblin together with spidey getting the black suit. but throwing in the entire venom saga, and wrapping up harry's arch was just over-kill

Spider-man Villains don't always need to be tied into peter parker, that's something Raimi didn't understand, giving Ock Connor's Story, and Sandman the burglars, was just over-kill. Some people get great power and behave irresponsibly purposely. Not just because they're tragic.

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It wasn't the amount of Villains, it was the AMOUT OF WEIGHT each villain had...

Most fans thought it'd take a trilogy to properly pace out the Symbiote/Venom saga anyway... they crammed the suit, the effects, and venom all into one film (which is an overload as is), add the weight to Harry/Green Goblin and that's just yet even more baggage. And on top of that already over-crowded story line.. they gave Sandman a deep and unneeded character development and study and a personal connection with peter parker that wasn't needed...

you probably could have done Sandman/Goblin together with spidey getting the black suit. but throwing in the entire venom saga, and wrapping up harry's arch was just over-kill

Spider-man Villains don't always need to be tied into peter parker, that's something Raimi didn't understand, giving Ock Connor's Story, and Sandman the burglars, was just over-kill. Some people get great power and behave irresponsibly purposely. Not just because they're tragic.
I am aware of the fact that it was about each villain's story and how each were underdeveloped in their own right, but still, in the simplistic view of it all, it was because of the villains that made S-M 3 the way it was besides a few nitpicks outside of the villains such as the dialogue.

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The pose, the suit. Everything about this is perfect.



Too bad nothing else looks this good.

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^ Dude... Whoa...

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anyone seen more of todays set pics?


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Yes, the pic of Spidey on the cop car = PERFECT. So is the Giamatti pic Tweeted today. Love the Russian gangster look.

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