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Old 06-18-2013, 08:20 AM   #276
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Thankfully that'll never happen.
Well using Magneto again after DOFP depends on what the plan for future of
films

1:If they do another film with first Class cast then obviously Michael fassbender will be back as magneto but that's a question mark with them correcting things
2:If next film Is set In corrected future/present there Is defently possibilty
of Ian Mckellen returning as Magneto but question Is do they still want to use
magneto If they say are planning to bring In Apocalpse for future films.

Since Ian Mckellen has now done 6 films as gandalf,granted 4 as Grey version and 2 as white version,him returing Isn't out of question especilly Is Bryan Singer helms followup to DOFP.Also there Is chance that Fox put sequel clauses In contracts of OT actors for DOFP.Plus Days of future past puts to rest those rumors you couldn't get the OT actors to return to the X-Men.

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I just think they need to move on with new villains and focus on the X-Men.

They should bring back the original cast but the difference that they will have from the previous movies is that they should focus on them as a team and an individual. They haven't really done that before.

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A lot of fans have a lot of emotions about Quicksilver appearing in both "The Avengers 2" and "X-Men: Days of Future Past." Here's one fan who doesn't have a lot of emotions about the "controversy": Joss Whedon.
Speaking with Total Film about his plans for the "Avengers" sequel, Whedon said he doesn't care at all that Quicksilver will be appearing in Fox's next "X-Men" movie, even though he announced his intentions to use the speedster in Earth's mightiest sequel long before Bryan Singer's tweet heard 'round the web.
"I don't," he insisted. "I really, you know what, I'm doing my thing and I'm very excited about my thing."

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At least he's being professional about it. He never really seemed to think highly of the series.

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I doubt he isnt at least a bit excited for DOFP. He's a x-men fan after all, so this "non-talk" thing seems off to me.

He knows Bryan has a great story on his hands and the movie has an inmense potential, so its not that hard to say something positive.

but maybe he's really really pissed at Bryan after all, so right now doesnt want to say anything postive about the saga. fine. One year or another he'll say something, so Ill wait and see

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He seemed pretty bitter about how X1 turned out if I recall.

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yeah he may not like the current Xmen film franchise

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oh really?

never read anything back in the day, chh. I guess it wasnt funny enough for him

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He seemed pretty bitter about how X1 turned out if I recall.
I think that was more to do with him losing out on being director of the first X-Men movie. Fox wasn't digging his script treatment or something.

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I think that was more to do with him losing out on being director of the first X-Men movie. Fox wasn't digging his script treatment or something.
That's the only thing I remember about him and the X movies.
I don't think he's ever expressed any negativity about the films themselves.

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Joss has spoken a few times about his dissatisfaction for the movies, expressing genuine surprise that the first movie was even a hit. He gave some fascinating interviews in the past:

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I wrote an X-Men movie. I wrote a huge overhaul of the first one. It was based on their structure. It was not used.

It was the same thing: They brought me in for the third act. I said, “The problem starts on page one. Let’s talk about the whole movie.” While adhering to the structure they had. That’s the fun of being a script doctor. And it’s actually what prepares you for being an executive producer in terms of script. You’re constantly re-writing. It’s like, “What does this mean? How does it come together? What’s it all about?”

My frustration over “X-Men,” which I think I was a little ungentlemanly about, came as much in the process of my not being informed that my rewrite had been thrown out as it was about the movie itself.

But, basically, I think I had gone a little bit more towards the comic. I had the Danger Room, which was, “Very nice. Lovely. Can’t afford it.” The Danger Room played a big part in it. And it also ended with Jean Grey sort of holding back and holding back and then doing something extraordinarily powerful, and in the last scene she was dressed like Phoenix. It was fun to do, and I was disappointed that it wasn’t used. And the first movie had a lot going for it. It had a lot of integrity, and a lot of love and a lot of cool stuff but I was disheartened.

Look, I’m going to have trouble watching “Batman Begins” because I pitched a Batman movie to them that I fell so in love with that I couldn’t get it out of my head. And, no matter what, I’m just going to be going, “Oh, that one scene. Oh, I just wish … Oh!” Even if I love every frame, you just don’t get over stuff like that.

I don’t recall ever hearing about you pitching a Batman movie.
It was right when they first starting talking about making another “Batman” movie, and there was no director attached. And I can tell you exactly when I pitched it because – funny little story – my agent said, “You know, I wouldn’t call you. I know you don’t want to do other people’s stuff, but it’s Batman, and I figured I’d mention it. They want to do something.” I’m like, “Well, I guess you’d have to ‘Year-One’ it because, I mean, you can’t go any further in the direction they’ve gone.” He’s like, “Well, y’know, whatever.” I’m like, “Y’know, I’m not going to think about it.” And then I talked to my wife, and she’s like, “Dude.” And she doesn’t even like comic books. She was like, “No. Are you kidding? It’s Batman!”

And, you know, I started to think about it and I did come up with an origin movie and I just got completely overwhelmed by how much I loved the idea. I was just like, “Oh my God! This is really … I’m going in to pitch! What the hell!” And I was clearly not on the same wavelength as the people I was pitching to. I was talking about personal epiphanies and they were talking about an ’05 slot. So the meeting was just kind of a non-starter. I was talking about a smaller film, they were really looking for a big franchise thing. So I got in my car and headed back to the office and I literally said to myself, “How many more times do I need to be told that the machine doesn’t care. The machine is not aware of what is in your heart as a storyteller.” I got back to the office and they cancelled “Firefly.” So I was like, “Oh! So, uh, just once more. OK!” That was not a happy day.
But, again, I don’t want to be speaking ill of the X-Men people or of Warner Bros., because they had a perfectly valid agenda that I just wasn’t really aware of.

Lauren [Shuler Donner, who produces the “X-Men” movies] has always been a big supporter, and so has Avi [Arad, CEO of Marvel Studios], and we talked about “X3” but the schedule totally didn’t work out. But had I done an X-Men movie – and obviously it would have been “X3,” the first one I that I could have done – I just feel like I would have pared it down character-wise. They were talking about all the new characters they were going to bring out, and I was like, “I think you have all these great actors in your movie already. [laughs] Why don’t we, y’know, stick with them?’”

But “X3” was definitely a Phoenix story because I think Famke Janssen is really underrated as an actress anyway, and because it’s Phoenix, for Christ’s sake.

Have you used anything in Astonishing X-Men [the best-selling Marvel comic book Whedon has been writing] that you had originally been thinking about for the first “X-Men” movie?
Nothing from the movie script is even remotely connected to the comic book. I can’t really do that. I can’t really take something and then stick it somewhere else. If I could it would probably make life easier, cause I often think up chunks of stuff that I then can’t use. But the fact is you have to come at everything as if there had been nothing before and there will be nothing after.

I mean, if I’d had a great idea that was a great idea for a comic book for the X-Men as they were when Grant Morrison left them [Morrison was writing the comic-book adventures of Cyclops and Wolverine immediately prior to Whedon’s run] that happened to have been something I wrote for the movie that had been taken out, I might have considered it. But that wasn’t the case.

You’ve been critical of the first “X-Men” feature’s script. What did you perceive as its chief deficiencies?
Eh, I don’t feel like ragging on somebody else’s work. In private I’m just as catty as anybody, but that’s not something I would really do in an interview. The movie is never going to be satisfying to somebody who wrote a script that wasn’t used. Whether or not the script was better or worse, that person is always going to have a skewed perception of the movie.

Were you surprised at how well the first “X-Men” film was received?
I think I was a little surprised. But, like I said, it had an integrity to it, and it had some moments and it had a feel that was a little bit fresh. And superhero movies were notoriously bad, and it sort of stuck its head above the pack a bit.
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Y’know, the thing about the X-Men is they have a coherent core. The Avengers to me is tough. I wouldn’t approach The Avengers, I wouldn’t approach the Fantastic Four. The X-Men are all born of pain, and pain is where I hang my hat.
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It was the same situation with X-Men. They said, "Come in and punch up the big climax, the third act, and if you can, make it cheaper." That was the mandate on both movies, and my response to both movies was, "The problem with the third act is the first two acts." But, again, no one was paying attention. X-Men was very interesting in that, by that time, I actually had a reputation in television. I was actually somebody. People stopped thinking I was John Sweden on the phone. And then, in X-Men, not only did they throw out my script and never tell me about it; they actually invited me to the read-through, having thrown out my entire draft without telling me. I was like, "Oh, that's right! This is the movies! The writer is **** in the movies!" I'll never understand that. I have one line left in that movie. Actually, there are a couple of lines left in that are out of context and make no sense, or are delivered so badly, so terribly... There's one line that's left the way I wrote it.
O: Which is?
JW: "'It's me.' 'Prove it.' 'You're a dick.'" Hey, it got a laugh.
O: It's funny that the only lines I really remember from that movie are that one and Storm's toad comment.
JW: Okay, which was also mine, and that's the interesting thing. Everybody remembers that as the worst line ever written, but the thing about that is, it was supposed to be delivered as completely offhand. [Adopts casual, bored tone.] "You know what happens when a toad gets hit by lightning?" Then, after he gets electrocuted, "Ahhh, pretty much the same thing that happens to anything else." But Halle Berry said it like she was Desdemona. [Strident, ringing voice.] "The same thing that happens to everything eeelse!" That's the thing that makes you go crazy. At least "You're a dick" got delivered right. The worst thing about these things is that, when the actors say it wrong, it makes the writer look stupid. People assume that the line... I listened to half the dialogue in Alien 4, and I'm like, "That's idiotic," because of the way it was said. And nobody knows that. Nobody ever gets that. They say, "That was a stupid script," which is the worst pain in the world. I have a great long boring story about that, but I can tell you the very short version. In Alien 4, the director changed something so that it didn't make any sense. He wanted someone to go and get a gun and get killed by the alien, so I wrote that in and tried to make it work, but he directed it in a way that it made no sense whatsoever. And I was sitting there in the editing room, trying to come up with looplines to explain what's going on, to make the scene make sense, and I asked the director, "Can you just explain to me why he's doing this? Why is he going for this gun?" And the editor, who was French, turned to me and said, with a little leer on his face, [adopts gravelly, smarmy, French-accented voice] "Because eet's een the screept." And I actually went and dented the bathroom stall with my puddly little fist. I have never been angrier. But it's the classic, "When something goes wrong, you assume the writer's a dork." And that's painful.
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I remember he was a contender for X3 too, and if Im right, he even spoke about it, time before Matthew was confirmed.

dont remember his words at all, tho

edited: oh, I see you had just posted all those quotes. Interesting. Im sure his X1 script had great momments, and maybe a few not so good momments too.


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I find him lately being a bit argoent.Him saying on Avengers commantary there weren't any real comic book movies before first Iron Man.Forget X-Men for a minute your dismiss all superman,batman,and Spider-man films as not real comic book movies?

Agent of shield Is his first TV show I am not that excited about.I will continue to say doing a comic book based show and you can't include a single character from comic books?Really?

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Definitely read both full articles if you have the time. He talks a lot about his career in general and the man gives some interesting insights. One of my favourite interviewees ever.

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Agent of shield Is his first TV show I am not that excited about.I will continue to say doing a comic book based show and you can't include a single character from comic books?Really?
Comics book characters will be part of the show...

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I find him lately being a bit argoent.Him saying on Avengers commantary there weren't any real comic book movies before first Iron Man.Forget X-Men for a minute your dismiss all superman,batman,and Spider-man films as not real comic book movies?
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I find him lately being a bit argoent.Him saying on Avengers commantary there weren't any real comic book movies before first Iron Man.Forget X-Men for a minute your dismiss all superman,batman,and Spider-man films as not real comic book movies?
Whedon said "Spider-Man was the first film that absolutley got the essence of the book and turned it into a film". He's given many other Superhero films credit and is entitled to his opinion on what he prefers, just like you are.

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He didn't say that on Avengers commantary.

Saying you were disappointed Is one thing but call all comic book based films before Iron man not real comic book movies?

I may hate Iron Man 3 but it's still a comic book movie.I just hate It.

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He didn't say that on Avengers commantary.

Saying you were disappointed Is one thing but call all comic book based films before Iron man not real comic book movies?
Well now you know he thinks Spider-Man was the first to nail down an adaptation. He has said this many times. Don't act like that one quote from the Avengers commentary represents all his thoughts on the subject.
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I'm sure he has plenty of personal reasons on why he thinks certain flicks are better then other or are "real" comic films. I disagree with some of his opinions on films. But whatever, the guy knows what he likes and has his reasons .

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Funny hearing Whedon say 'Batman Begins' was his favorite. I thought I was the sole person on planet earth to feel that way. People look at me crazy when I say that's the best Batman movie ever made, now at least I have one person who agrees...

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Back to Quicksilver, anyone think they won't even acknowledge he's Magneto's son? I mean, they sure as heck didn't mention Juggernaut being Charles' half brother. And since they're only using him for an action sequence, it makes sense they wouldn't take the time to go into the backstory.

This movie just has too many characters and to throw in more just to see some cool powers is representative of everything wrong with this franchise.

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Maybe Singer wants to do it like the comics. Introduce him first, and later to reveal their connection.

In this case, on next movie.

I wouldnt be mad at this... IF this is Bryan's real plan. But if Bryan doesnt care about their family connection..... well, I reserve my opinion.

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The fact that Alex and Scott Summers are not brothers and Mystique wasn't Nightcrawlers mom is more evidence that the family connections from the comics don't matter in the movies.

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The fact that Alex and Scott Summers are not brothers and Mystique wasn't Nightcrawlers mom is more evidence that the family connections from the comics don't matter in the movies.
See we don't know what happened in the 10 years is since FC she might of had to give up a baby, might have an impact on her

Not sayin that will have happened or that will happen but at the moment we don't know

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