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Old 07-10-2013, 01:13 PM   #501
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Or, Mayimbe was referring to one of the obvious picks like Thanos or Ultron or even Vision (villain, though....?), and just didn't want to fess up when everybody and their brother-in-law correctly guessed his "brilliant scoop."

At this point, I'd say that Vision and Thanos are the two likeliest choices, based on what we know and what we know from Vin's tweets. I'm personally hoping it's the latter than the former, since it'd likely mean a whole lot of non-canonical changes to Vision's story (because there's no way in hell they can cram all that into Avengers 2 and still have room for all the rest of it).

OTOH, if it *is* Vision, there's a distinct possibility that Avengers 2 is going to feature a huge-ass classic roster that makes me positively orgasmic at the thought:

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War Machine (? Possibly. He's got Westie cred.)
Hank Pym*
Janet Van Dyne*
Scott Lang*

*Presumably will have already been cast by the time TA2 goes into production. It's not entirely unlikely that we get our first glimpses of them in TA2 as prelude to the Ant-Man movie a few months afterward.

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Anyone thinking we'll get the subtitle at Comic-Con?

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I wonder if we would have a cast that big, or if they'll cut some people out to make room. Having an Avengers team that's 12 people might work in the comics, but it might be too much for the movie.

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It could work if they split into two teams, one going after the Earth threat and one the cosmic.

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I wonder if we would have a cast that big, or if they'll cut some people out to make room. Having an Avengers team that's 12 people might work in the comics, but it might be too much for the movie.
I'd be fine with cameo appearances or even.....deaths O.O

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I could see Vin as Taskmaster.

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I CAN see him as Thanos OR High Evolutionary. Just Can't see Vin as Vision
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I think Vin is playing a major villain in A2. From el mayimbe:

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But apparently no one guessed correctly who he had heard Vin was going to play...who could it be? I'm sure people were guessing Thanos, Ultron, Vision, etc.

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Pretty sure it's vision. Here's why. One, what he said, tunnel VISION....two, all the pictures of the Vision as his profile pictures, like 4 times. His profile pictures are often characters he plays...3, today, after the meeting, this was his cover photo....


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Oh snap.

And I like your idea of Ultron having already been created, Killian's involvement, etc., eventually leading to 'Ant-man', where it could act as sort of a prequel, before changing to the present.

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Pretty sure it's vision. Here's why. One, what he said, tunnel VISION....two, all the pictures of the Vision as his profile pictures, like 4 times. His profile pictures are often characters he plays...3, today, after the meeting, this was his cover photo....

You mean, on Facebook? Actually, his cover photo is a mashup of him hollering at an elephant. Where'd you get that one?

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You mean, on Facebook? Actually, his cover photo is a mashup of him hollering at an elephant. Where'd you get that one?
Yeah, facebook. Apparently this was it for a very, very brief moment.

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Yeah, facebook. Apparently this was it for a very, very brief moment.
Which leads to the inevitable "Marvel told him to take it down" conspiracy theories.

I dunno. I'd like to hear first what Vin thinks of Vision as a character, both in the comics and the (alleged) movies. If this *is* a character he really likes and has campaigned for, as some seem to think, then yes, I can see Marvel giving it to him.

But if that turns out to be the case, then that *should* mean we'll soon see Isaiah Mustafa as Luke Cage, or The Rock as Luke Cage, and Patrick Dempsey as Dr. Strange (other actors who've actively campaigned for a specific character within Marvel).

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Lang makes more sense than Pym, especially if Lang is supposed to be the title character in "Ant-Man." (The only script we know of from Edgar Wright's film so far *does* feature Lang as the title character, with Pym being an older Ant-Man from the 1960s who mentors Lang the thief, a la "To Steal an Ant-Man" storyline.)

I'm not sure Vin was trying to reference the Giant-Man picture so much as simply "Avengers #2" in that picture, meaning that's almost certainly the movie he's being cast for. The Vision remark is obvious, especially given his Facebook history with a picture of the synthezoid; but it could also be a playful misdirection.

The only thing I'm certain of now is that he's casting for TA2. In what capacity is anybody's guess. Giant-Man picture notwithstanding, I'm still not sure Edgar Wright will be far enough along in the Ant-Man movie to warrant a cameo from Pym and/or Lang in TA2 (Ant-Man comes out *after* TA2, in case anybody forgot), but it's a real possibility.

And, like Dent said, I'd really hate to see Vision without Ultron, and Ultron without Pym. But who knows.

Somebody else mentioned High Evolutionary, and I could see that, too. I still think Hi-Ev is a possibility to be the big bad in TA2, assembling an army of supervillains ("Masters"....of Evil) to take on Earth's Mightiest.

But I still stand by the Thanos Imperative. All roads lead to Thanos in Phase II. Vin Diesel now finds himself on the main highway.
i doubt that we'd see Vision without Ultron. they might even have Diesel voice both characters.

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Anyone thinking we'll get the subtitle at Comic-Con?
I was thinking about this earlier today, too. I would imagine that we may in fact get an Avengers subtitle. They certainly know what the story is going to be at this point, so I would think that they'd have a title in mind.

Only reason I can think that we wouldn't get a subtilte at SDCC is if the subtitle they're going with gives more away about the film than they'd feel comfortable with revealing this early...

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How would you guys react if it went like this:

"The sequel to the Avengers is now officially titled......The Avengers vs. Vin Diesel."

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As someone else mentioned a while back, Whedon is only signed on through A2. There's no way (IMO) that he sets up Thanos as an A3 villain when he's not even going to be around to see his story through. In my mind, Thanos is basically confirmed as the A2 baddie. What we don't know is how the story revolves around him.
I've never seen or heard Whedon say he won't be on for A3. It's probably something like how Nolan was about doing a third Batman if the story is right and calls for it. I'm sure he'll be doing A3 with Downey now signed on for 2 more Avengers movies not just A2 and how Whedon said he wouldn't do Avengers with Downey so I'm sure it's the same the other way around.

Edit: I can see Vin as Wonder Man as a villain for A2. It's perfect if they go the Master's of Evil route that A:EMH took (minus Loki).

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Yes, this would be cool. Wonder Man is one character I can see Diesel doing well.

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He mentioned Vision AGAIN with the 'tunnel vision' quote, I don't think that's an accident. Possibility of Simon Williams, Action Star too, I guess, if they want the celeb backstory and all in there. But I def think he's Vision.

I'm certain he isn't playing Thanos. I just don't see anyone thinking that's any kind of close match at all. And this is from someone who thinks Vin is a better actor than most of you are giving him credit for. It's not even about skill, it's about appropriate casting. It's just not the right type of role.

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Unless Vin is intentionally throwing his fans off, which I do not think he would do, I think it's obvious that he knows that we fans would take note of his choice of words.

Considering they are already including Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, and may possibly use Falcon (since he really is a prominent Avengers character) I would be surprised if The Vision made it into The Avengers 2.

The Vision wouldn't be included in Cap 2, Thor 2, and is not likely to be in Guardians (there are already 100 new characters to work around).... so there would be too much back story necessary to also include him in Avengers 2... unless they had a pretty dramatic after-credits scene somewhere.

Also, as soon as I heard about his meeting with Marvel, I made this Vin Diesel fan art that I'm actually quite proud of. Also showing a cropped version now that people are seriously considering that he may be The Vision.







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^Good fanart.
Unfortunately, it also illustrates why Vin Diesel as Vision looks pretty damn awful.

If the Vision theory holds up, I'm certain he/it is going to necessarily be so INO that he'll be unrecognizable from the comics.

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^Good fanart.
Unfortunately, it also illustrates why Vin Diesel as Vision looks pretty damn awful.

If the Vision theory holds up, I'm certain he/it is going to necessarily be so INO that he'll be unrecognizable from the comics.
Agreed. Except for Hawkeye's purple circus tights, the rest of the Avengers had pretty negotiable costumes (although I'm actually surprised how true they stayed with Captain America's final version.)

These newer additions, Falcon/Scarlet/QuickSilver/Vision/Ant-Man had less realistic rubbery rainbow costumes like Hawkeye and will probably get moderned-up. It's not that Vin Diesel would look awful as The Vision.... but The Vision look is hard to work on screen in general.

I'm expecting to see The Vision as a bulky green sentinel, but to make it more "android," will have a humanistic I,robot kind of face. Probably without a cape, but some crazy gear instead. I tried to come up with a somewhat modern/comic balanced version in my fan-art.

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Another thing to consider:

Everyone naturally focuses on the "tunnel VISION" quote....but what if the emphasis is supposed to be "TUNNEL vision?"

Who tunnels?
Ants.
What character is most prominently displayed in the Avengers #2 poster Vin stands in front of?
Hank Pym.

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So if he's Vision can we automatically assume that Ant-Man has already created Ultron at this point? Maybe Ultron and Vision will be brothers in the MCU? Ant-Man creates both of them, one goes bad and the other good.

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Another thing to consider:

Everyone naturally focuses on the "tunnel VISION" quote....but what if the emphasis is supposed to be "TUNNEL vision?"

Who tunnels?
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What character is most prominently displayed in the Avengers #2 poster Vin stands in front of?
Hank Pym.
But the thing is, Vin doesn't fit Pym or even Lang at all. No way in hell can I see that happening. I can't see him as Vision either.

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