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Old 06-18-2013, 02:13 AM   #126
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Lol. Got cut off. I meant Agent 13 in CA:TWS was Carole Danvers.

Probably not anyway, so my original point is useless!

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Ha. Nice to see a sense of humor. I actually thought I was being a tad douchey as soon as I hit the post button.

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How exactly do Wanda's powers translate onto the screen? I have not seen much of her in the comics i've read. Is she in any Marvel cartoon show, if so how were her powers shown?
She has two sets of powers. She has her mutant powers to effect proablility. Ex: making the chances that oxegen will combust go from a 1% chance got to a 70% chance. Then she has the ability to use Chaos Magic that she recived as a child from "The Other" who is the elemental host of Chthon the Elder god.

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She has two sets of powers. She has her mutant powers to effect proablility. Ex: making the chances that oxegen will combust go from a 1% chance got to a 70% chance. Then she has the ability to use Chaos Magic that she recived as a child from "The Other" who is the elemental host of Chthon the Elder god.
Chaos magic has been retconned from the Marvel Universe.
Dr Strange said there is no such thing, unfortunately.
Plus, Wanda's powers have also been retconned and they're now full fleshed reality warping.
Of course that doesn't mean the MCU can't use her original powers, or a combination of both versions.

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Dr Strange said there is no such thing, unfortunately.
I'm reasonably sure chaos magic has been brought up since then. I want to say Slott's Mighty Avengers run. Retcon of the retcon.

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^ It wouldn't surprise me and it wouldn't be the first time.

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Yeah, Wanda's powers have been changed in basis a lot. I wouldn't be shocked if the movie changes them again.

( offhand, its been "mutant probability powers" to "actual magic" to "minor reality warping" to "chaos magic" to "mutant energy control, that happens to be able to treat magic like any other energy" to "major reality warping, that works totally differently than the old reality warping", with a side order of "manipulating dimensional boundaries and accessing alternate realities" in Ultimates )

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I can't picture how her powers will look onscreen. Will be very excited to see this when 1st revealed. Quicksilver's also although that is easier to picture. It's good that their powers are quite different to the existing Avengers.

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I think Joss is just going to go for the base magic route judging from his comments on her powers.

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I can't picture how her powers will look onscreen.
I think her powers in X-Men Evolution would be an interpretation I'd be happy with. Or how Proteus was done in the X-Men 90's cartoon.
I hope they don't just have her levitating and/or force-pushing people around. That's just telekinesis with another name, and it shouldn't be Wanda's powers at all.

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I can't picture how her powers will look onscreen. Will be very excited to see this when 1st revealed. Quicksilver's also although that is easier to picture. It's good that their powers are quite different to the existing Avengers.
That was the point and I'm glad they chose them over more fighters/tech/muscle.

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I think her powers in X-Men Evolution would be an interpretation I'd be happy with. Or how Proteus was done in the X-Men 90's cartoon.
I hope they don't just have her levitating and/or force-pushing people around. That's just telekinesis with another name, and it shouldn't be Wanda's powers at all.
Oh I didn't see her in that. Maybe I'll check youtube later.

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That was the point and I'm glad they chose them over more fighters/tech/muscle.
Good decision. Variety is king when adding new characters.

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That was the point and I'm glad they chose them over more fighters/tech/muscle.
The uniqueness of their powers is why I have been rooting for Wanda & Pietro to be added all along. There are only so many different ways you can show people punching things before it becomes old hat. Thor is a lot more versatile and visually interesting than the Hulk, for example, because he has so many other things he can do besides just hitting his opponents. The same is true of the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. In TA2 there will be heroes and villains engaging each other in a lot of different ways, which will make the action much more exciting and unpredictable.

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I think their powers would be visually interesting, but I wonder how they're going to do it? It could end up looking cheesy/cheap on film. As long as they don't hire the Green Lantern people...

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I'm reasonably sure chaos magic has been brought up since then. I want to say Slott's Mighty Avengers run. Retcon of the retcon.
Yeah, Slott put it right in Mighty A. <3 She's back to pre-HoM powers- probability and Chaos magick.

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I think their powers would be visually interesting, but I wonder how they're going to do it? It could end up looking cheesy/cheap on film. As long as they don't hire the Green Lantern people...


Yeah, Slott put it right in Mighty A. <3 She's back to pre-HoM powers- probability and Chaos magick.

What in Marvel's past portrayals of its characters makes you think they would ever create something that looks cheesy or cheap? This isn't Fox we're talking about.

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That's a legit question though. Wanda's glowing red energy hands probably wouldn't work well on screen. Actually, I could see Joss going for the way her powers were originally portrayed (as in the visual aspect of them, not their properties per se) and have it where whens he points in a certain direction there is a slight distortion in the air and then **** just happens. He says she'll have telekinesis as well, so maybe we'll get some Jean-type stuff.

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I'm not worried about her powers on screen. They'll make it look right, and not by shortchanging them to be simple distortions of air. It shouldn't be that hard. I don't want her to be Jean Grey v2.0 and just move stuff around all the time.

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Didn't mean she'd move stuff around. She hexes things and causes them to act wacky. It's like bending cause and effect. I'm only equatin her to Jean in terms of Whedons telekenesis comment.

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I'm sure considered the visual and practical use of Wanda's powers before he set his mind on using her so no worries here. My curiosity is more on how she'll look using her powers or the actions she does using it. I see her doing things with her hands similar to Dr. Strange but without the incantations.

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If her hands dont have the glowing red aura I'll be very disappointed there's absolutely no reason they can't translate that to screen.

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I totally expect her to have some type of glowing red orbs around her hands and maybe red glowing eyes as well. It would help to give her an initial evil impression right off the bat.

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I think their powers would be visually interesting, but I wonder how they're going to do it? It could end up looking cheesy/cheap on film. As long as they don't hire the Green Lantern people...
I don't think anyone will be hiring them for a while.

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The uniqueness of their powers is why I have been rooting for Wanda & Pietro to be added all along. There are only so many different ways you can show people punching things before it becomes old hat. Thor is a lot more versatile and visually interesting than the Hulk, for example, because he has so many other things he can do besides just hitting his opponents. The same is true of the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. In TA2 there will be heroes and villains engaging each other in a lot of different ways, which will make the action much more exciting and unpredictable.
Hulk is visually interesting even if he sleeps throughout the whole film. I hope they show a lot more of Thor & his versatility in Avengers 2. From here on the new Avengers need to have something different about them or different looking powers.

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I think adding Wanda and Pietro also adds a power level to Avengers. In Avengers 1, Thor, Hulk and Iron Man were the most powerful, the other 3 are humans with great fighting skills, Cap's augmented, but to the level of a top world athlete.

Wanda would easily be the most powerful member on the team. This is the person who nearly destroyed all the mutant population with a single thought. Pietro is powerful, but not anywhere near to that level.

My only thoughts are, I don't mind the look of Ultimate SW and QS, but please no incest! Avengers should not be Game of Thrones.

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