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Old 07-05-2013, 09:55 PM   #826
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Zimmer didn't arrange the William Tell Overture in Lone Ranger. That was Geoff Zanelli, one of his many "helping" composers, who writes some of the music and works for Zimmer. By the way, Zanelli composed music for Man of Steel as well.

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Old 07-05-2013, 10:19 PM   #827
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:09 PM   #828
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Zimmer didn't arrange the William Tell Overture in Lone Ranger. That was Geoff Zanelli, one of his many "helping" composers, who writes some of the music and works for Zimmer. By the way, Zanelli composed music for Man of Steel as well.
Even though Zanelli was the one who arranged it, Zimmer and Verbinski approved its usage in the film regardless.

And I know some folks scoff at Alan Silvestri's work on The Avengers, but I thought it had energy and variety to spare. Zimmer's work on MOS and last two Batman films just didn't have that. It didn't help that most of his action scores fudge up the mixing so you don't hear any orchestral nuance... that's what puts me off an otherwise interesting score for Inception.

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Old 07-06-2013, 02:28 AM   #829
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I'm sure there's plenty of covers out there, but here's someone's piano rendition of 'Flight'. Very impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UbaHUAUKds

Edit: Also found this 25 minute interview with Hans about the MOS score:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHvamU98GhA

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Old 07-06-2013, 05:47 AM   #830
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Yeah, the score matched the movie really well. I particularly liked the 'Look to the Stars' rising note when Kal-El was born at the very beginning of the movie.
That scene actually disconnected me because the choral voices sounded like they were singing 'hallelujah' and I'm not a fan of the Jesus references in the film anyway.

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Old 07-06-2013, 07:37 AM   #831
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Me neither, I see superman as representing the immigrant more than Jesus.

Zimmer was ok but he's no Williams. He did the job for the sort of story they wanted to tell though

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At best his origin is a Moses allegory.

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Old 07-06-2013, 09:40 AM   #833
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Zimmer didn't arrange the William Tell Overture in Lone Ranger. That was Geoff Zanelli, one of his many "helping" composers, who writes some of the music and works for Zimmer
Though I haven't heard any of TLR score. That doesn't surprise me at all. That's one of the interesting things about looking at the end credits (or the CD liner notes to Zmmer scores) when the music dept. section comes up. And seeing how many orchestrators, composers, and arrangers were involved. when it comes to Zimmer scores it always seems to be a laundry list of names.


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Old 07-06-2013, 09:43 AM   #834
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Gave the williams score a listen yesterday, specifically "The Planet Krypton". The emotion and feeling in the opening of that song is remarkable. Nostalgic or not, a modern arrangement of something like that and recorded in 2013 I think would fit in MOS. We have gotten use to the Zimmer percussion pulsing and chord droning over the TDK trilogy and inception and by the time I heard it in MOS I felt MOS could've done with something more. There's nothing wrong with something more notated and classical sounding. Williams did it in the prequel SW trilogy, with all the cgi and sci-fi visuals it had, the williams score just worked. (though he's had 5 movies to establish the score). Now while Williams obviously wasnt going to score MOS, I think I would have loved to see others tackle it. Howard Shore would've been interesting. And I don't know who had the idea of it, but the electric guitar accents in flight and in Han's Sketchbook make the whole thing sound very dated and almost 80's. I have a feeling this was Snyder's doing, but who knows. Anyways, The score works for me as something to work out to, but in the film it falls short and sounds generic.

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Old 07-06-2013, 10:03 PM   #835
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My 5 favorite soundtracks of all-time-
1. Man Of Steel
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3. Superman 1-4
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:10 PM   #836
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Though I haven't heard any of TLR score. That doesn't surprise me at all. That's one of the interesting things about looking at the end credits (or the CD liner notes to Zmmer scores) when the music dept. section comes up. And seeing how many orchestrators, composers, and arrangers were involved. when it comes to Zimmer scores it always seems to be a laundry list of names.
I've heard it asked, "How many people does it take to write a Hans Zimmer score?"

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Old 07-07-2013, 07:05 PM   #837
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Off the subject just a bit...This film also introduced me to Chris Cornell's "Seasons."
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:46 PM   #838
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Can someone please tell me the name of the track played when Superman saves Lois from the falling pod and the track when Superman again saves her when she falls from the plane. I think it is the same track but I can't find it in the soundtrack!

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Old 07-08-2013, 07:15 PM   #839
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I do not believe those scenes are in the MOS soundtrack.

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Awhh really? They are such awesome cues. Really get the heart racing during those moments in the films.

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Yes they are. Many musical moments in the movie were not included in the MOS soundtrack. Many of the Lois sequences for some reason were not included. The Lois/Jor-El meeting had a nice little tune as she was escaping Zod's ship as well as the ones you mentioned. Just too much music apparently that can't be included.

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That scene actually disconnected me because the choral voices sounded like they were singing 'hallelujah' and I'm not a fan of the Jesus references in the film anyway.
The only Jesus reference i got in the film was his age.

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The only Jesus reference i got in the film was his age.
•Crucified Jesus pose while floating underwater, post-oil rig
•Framed against a stained glass window depicting a kneeling Jesus
•Crucified Jesus pose while floating out of Black Zero

Might be a few more than that, but those three popped into my head first.

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Throw Zimmer into the Phantom Zone. His music is really getting to the point of being unbearable.

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Off the subject just a bit...This film also introduced me to Chris Cornell's "Seasons."
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Someone said they thought it sounded really out of place, but I really liked it. It lead us in a flashback really nicely, and not only that, wouldn't Chris Cornell, Soundgarden (his band) and grunge in general from the early 90's be when that flashback would have taken place? So the song choice didn't just fit the tone of what we were seeing, it was representing the time period of the flash back.

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The use of Chris Cornell was a pleasant surprise.

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Someone said they thought it sounded really out of place, but I really liked it. It lead us in a flashback really nicely, and not only that, wouldn't Chris Cornell, Soundgarden (his band) and grunge in general from the early 90's be when that flashback would have taken place? So the song choice didn't just fit the tone of what we were seeing, it was representing the time period of the flash back.
Is that true though? I thought the song was used in present day when Clark was sneaking off with the clothes from that random person's backyard. That's what I remember, good be wrong though.

Either way, it was kind of unexpected to hear Cornell in the movie but kind of cool. The fact that they used the song "Seasons" makes me wonder if that was a sly reference to Superman for All Seasons. Who knows, right?

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What's the theme called when Zod is fighting Supes in the end? "Fate of Your Planet"? You know, the main theme song they kept playing over and over in the fight scenes?

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When Superman and Zod are fighting at the end, I think it's "if you love these people"

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When Superman and Zod are fighting at the end, I think it's "if you love these people"
That's the one. Very ethereal in comparison to his Bat stuff. I like the drumming there too. Also that electronic noise when Superman and Zod fight near the satellite.

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