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Old 06-16-2013, 05:38 PM   #126
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^ That was pretty good. Not sure if I'd go that far but I'm definitely not disagreeing.

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The best superhero romance? I would probably say Cap/Peggy for contemporary films.

The most incredible chemistry between actors has to be hands down David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson. You could cut their sexual tension with a knife. Incredible.

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The most incredible chemistry between actors has to be hands down David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson. You could cut their sexual tension with a knife. Incredible.
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That's simply not true. Not at all. You're ignoring an obvious fact just to make your argument, which you don't need to do.

Outside of Pepper/Tony, they were the more involved than any other pairing in the MCU. It's not like the puppy love/crush of Jane/Thor. They were on the road to a long relationship. That road just got cut short. By the time TFA ended, they were already in love with one another.

And you state that 70 years passed by him in an instant--which is true--but then you say the relationship is moot because it's 70 years old. Not to him it isn't. He just woke up from a flash forward to the future. For him, it's instantaneous.
It's "instantaneous," plus a year in this future world. Or two. Or three.

We're clearly never going to see eye to eye on the alleged "ick factor" involved in a Steve/Sharon relationship (although I'll just point out that what Steve Rogers did in the *comics* was substantially more "caddier" than anything we're discussing here, because he was banging BOTH Peggy and Sharon in the 1960s while Peggy was still in her 40s and highly active with SHIELD, and both Carters still worked closely with Cap --- and yet, as Quagmire-y as that gets, *nobody* ever said "boo" about it)....

....so I'll redirect and ask instead: What do you think Steve is supposed to do, then, in the 21st century? Carry a torch for a dead woman he never even dated? Wear a long black veil and sackcloth and mourn a woman who died years, maybe decades, ago? Or do you think he should get on with his life, and start living in the future, since it is now his present?

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It's "instantaneous," plus a year in this future world. Or two. Or three.

We're clearly never going to see eye to eye on the alleged "ick factor" involved in a Steve/Sharon relationship (although I'll just point out that what Steve Rogers did in the *comics* was substantially more "caddier" than anything we're discussing here, because he was banging BOTH Peggy and Sharon in the 1960s while Peggy was still in her 40s and highly active with SHIELD, and both Carters still worked closely with Cap --- and yet, as Quagmire-y as that gets, *nobody* ever said "boo" about it)....

....so I'll redirect and ask instead: What do you think Steve is supposed to do, then, in the 21st century? Carry a torch for a dead woman he never even dated? Wear a long black veil and sackcloth and mourn a woman who died years, maybe decades, ago? Or do you think he should get on with his life, and start living in the future, since it is now his present?
Just an FYI, Peggy was alive and well in the MCU at least up to Avengers. Feige and Whedon both said so. That funeral may be her's though, who knows. But I see no ick factor at all.

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Old 06-16-2013, 08:21 PM   #131
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Portrait of unused helmet from the Avengers.



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It's alright. I think in real life, helmets like that don't work with a skin tight outfight because everything has that bobble head look.

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It's "instantaneous," plus a year in this future world. Or two. Or three.

We're clearly never going to see eye to eye on the alleged "ick factor" involved in a Steve/Sharon relationship (although I'll just point out that what Steve Rogers did in the *comics* was substantially more "caddier" than anything we're discussing here, because he was banging BOTH Peggy and Sharon in the 1960s while Peggy was still in her 40s and highly active with SHIELD, and both Carters still worked closely with Cap --- and yet, as Quagmire-y as that gets, *nobody* ever said "boo" about it)....

....so I'll redirect and ask instead: What do you think Steve is supposed to do, then, in the 21st century? Carry a torch for a dead woman he never even dated? Wear a long black veil and sackcloth and mourn a woman who died years, maybe decades, ago? Or do you think he should get on with his life, and start living in the future, since it is now his present?
I'm starting to feel less icky about it now that I understand the true relationships between Peggy and Sharon (niece first, then grand niece later). The Marvel wiki made it sound like she was Peggy's daughter, which is worse. Grand niece...eh, not as bad. Still, the point is moot in my mind. They never should have tried to make Sharon related in the first place.

Since I've said I'm all for a Cap/Widow relationship if they decide to do one, I'm clearly very much for Cap moving on. It would be dumb to make him celibate for life out of mourning for Peggy. And I honestly don't care who he dates (or even IF he dates), as long as it's not some goofy attempt to make him hook up with the closest present day Carter he can find.

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this movie looks like it is going to be awesome, all the set pics look great. My friend didn't like the first one so I'm hoping this changes his opinion

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In some continuities, Black Widow and Cap have gotten together.

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The Marvel wiki made it sound like she was Peggy's daughter, which is worse. Grand niece...eh, not as bad. Still, the point is moot in my mind. They never should have tried to make Sharon related in the first place.
Well, the thing is, Peggy is Sharon's aunt by design. Sharon came first, then they created Peggy as the girl Steve knew in the war.

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I know that Next Avengers animated movie had Cap & Natasha getting married and having a future son, for instance.

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Just an FYI, Peggy was alive and well in the MCU at least up to Avengers. Feige and Whedon both said so. That funeral may be her's though, who knows. But I see no ick factor at all.
It also says she is in the files from the Phase 1 set and dvd extras somewhere, not to mention the whole cut Man out of time scene on the Avengers Bluray and in the Avengers young readers book.
I'm still placing my bets on the fact Peggy was around the Super soldier formula so much that she had side effects and it slowed her aging. I STILL think the woman on the Counsel in Avengers was Peggy Carter

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I'm already having set photo withdrawal.

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It also says she is in the files from the Phase 1 set and dvd extras somewhere, not to mention the whole cut Man out of time scene on the Avengers Bluray and in the Avengers young readers book.
I'm still placing my bets on the fact Peggy was around the Super soldier formula so much that she had side effects and it slowed her aging. I STILL think the woman on the Counsel in Avengers was Peggy Carter
What? No. That was Jenny Agutter.

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I think he means she was supposed to play an older Peggy. (which is rediculous IMO) not the actress....

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That looks a lot better than the helmet they went with.

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It also says she is in the files from the Phase 1 set and dvd extras somewhere, not to mention the whole cut Man out of time scene on the Avengers Bluray and in the Avengers young readers book.
I'm still placing my bets on the fact Peggy was around the Super soldier formula so much that she had side effects and it slowed her aging. I STILL think the woman on the Counsel in Avengers was Peggy Carter
That's be kind of awkward, as that woman was all for blowing up New York, with Steve in it.

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That's be kind of awkward, as that woman was all for blowing up New York, with Steve in it.
well he did stand her up 70 years ago, ahahahah

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well he did stand her up 70 years ago, ahahahah
Haha, hell hath no fury...

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What? No. That was Jenny Agutter.
Yeah Sam, I meant as Peggy TODAY.
They say she's alive but not in what condition, and since she was with Eriskin quite often during the Super soldier developement, like the 616 Fury it could have slowed her aging

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That's be kind of awkward, as that woman was all for blowing up New York, with Steve in it.
Senility, go figure lol
Hey it'd be a safe way to bring in Sharon and allow Steve to close the relationship with Peggy

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Haha, hell hath no fury...
yeah the Helicarrier has Fury lol

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I stand by my original comment hahaha

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yeah the Helicarrier has Fury lol
I'm guessing that facepalm was for your own joke =P

I knew using that quote would invoke some reference to Fury, but nice job bringing the Helicarrier in there as well!

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