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Old 06-14-2013, 05:59 PM   #76
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I thought the tornado scene was perfect. Loved the way Costner acted, loved the "not yet" kind of mentality

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You guys are sweet

I'll be okay. It's just a weird experience for me to go through.

Beyond all the other problems that I think the film has, the ending just knocked the wind out of me... and I sort of knew it was coming from getting bits of spoilers. I knew he was going to die... I just didn't know it would be so brutal, and I thought they would say something more about it.

I dunno... it just really hit me emotionally, like it was the last thing I could take while struggling to stand straight under the weight of all the other flaws, and it properly toppled me over.

I'm seeing it again on Sunday night with some friends, and i'm hoping I may have had enough time to deal with the issues I have with the film by then. Maybe i'll enjoy it more the second time round.

If not, I guess... well... that's just the way it is

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The amount of Superman shirts I've seen 10 hours before the premiere yesterday walking in and out the theater shows that Superman is still a VERY relevant character to me. It's just about doing him justice and I honestly believe this movie has done that; even if it isn't a perfect movie, it shows to the GA that he IS the Gdaddy of all superheroes.

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Don't worry man, the movie was SOLID. No movie is perfect, and this movie is far from being terrible. I believe we're just discussing the flaws because we ALL were pretty much set with high expectations with the way the movie was marketed. But trust me, this is Superman like you've never seen him before in live action, and that, my friend, is a good thing.
Well, people must have had some really high expectations since the only things that I keep reading about when I come here now is how people hated this and that. Frankly, I feel like the only things that people were raving about was the action. If we were to go by that notion, then if you took away how much people love the cast and action, then the rest of the film seemingly looks like it would be destroyed in the same manner that Green Lantern was by fans.

If the film was so great, then why are so many people (not only critics, but fans as well) so pissed off and angry about the film?

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WOW! What a movie, I dare say one of the best movies I have ever seen by far. And probably t he best superhero movie ever made/ Better than avengers and TDK. I went in with a little apprehension because of all the negative talk and the Rotten reviews...but darn if those reviewers saw a different movie than I did. Just an all around fantastic movie. Epic win for the movie

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Well herolee, I greatly disagree with you, and I'm sorry that other people's reactions have ruined your experience before you had a chance to see the movie.I hope that you feel differently after you watch it.

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You guys are sweet

I'll be okay. It's just a weird experience for me to go through.

Beyond all the other problems that I think the film has, the ending just knocked the wind out of me... and I sort of knew it was coming from getting bits of spoilers. I knew he was going to die... I just didn't know it would be so brutal, and I thought they would say something more about it.

I dunno... it just really hit me emotionally, like it was the last thing I could take while struggling to stand straight under the weight of all the other flaws, and it properly toppled me over.

I'm seeing it again on Sunday night with some friends, and i'm hoping I may have had enough time to deal with the issues I have with the film by then. Maybe i'll enjoy it more the second time round.

If not, I guess... well... that's just the way it is
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**** you, David Goyer, for toying with my emotions like that.

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Well, people must have had some really high expectations since the only things that I keep reading about when I come here now is how people hated this and that. Frankly, I feel like the only things that people were raving about was the action. If we were to go by that notion, then if you took away how much people love the cast and action, then the rest of the film seemingly looks like it would be destroyed in the same manner that Green Lantern was by fans.

If the film was so great, then why are so many people (not only critics, but fans as well) so pissed off and angry about the film?
I really would recommend trying to blank out other people's stuff, because it is totally possible you will have a totally different experience to people like myself. I was one of the unlucky ones. Maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones

But if it makes you feel any better, I felt that the past few days of lowering expectations definitely made the experiance less tormenting to me. Cause if i'd gone in with the sky high expectations i'd had just a week ago, I dread to think how bad that comedown would have been

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I loved the cast and character moments but I thought the action was the worst part. It was too chaotic and hard to follow. There was an internet fan film a couple of years ago where they mixed footage from SR with a Doomsday figure from a video game and it looked like a movie of Supes fighting Doomsday, and that fight was more exciting than the ones in MOS imo.

Having said that I did love the film's overall story and I am excited for the sequel. I just can't stop thinking about how the few bits that left me cold could have been better.

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Saw this last nite. I enjoyed it. I felt the story was too choppy but the action was amazing ( even if the cg was a bit much at times). My favorite part was the opening Krypton stuff. I loved how scifi it was. I was expecting more but still liked it and look forward to owning it.

Oh and sorry if its been discussed, but did they explain why young Clark was running around in a red cape? Was it just a good guess on his part?

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It's kind of sad to see that we have more people talking about the issues they had with the film than talking about how they liked it. Kind of says a lot about the film's quality imho.

Meh, t minus a few more hours before I can see the film where apparently more people are disappointed in than SR itself.

I can't remember the last time a superhero wasn't nitpicked to death on these boards. I knew going in that no matter how good the film was people would find a reason to complain. No Superman movie will ever be good enough. You just have to see for yourself and decide.

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The part where pa kent goes back for the dog was ridiculous. Everyone I've talked to thought that was a lame reason to die. :/
Thankfully the rest of the film rocked.

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I really would recommend trying to blank out other people's stuff, because it is totally possible you will have a totally different experience to people like myself. I was one of the unlucky ones. Maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones

But if it makes you feel any better, I felt that the past few days of lowering expectations definitely made the experiance less tormenting to me. Cause if i'd gone in with the sky high expectations i'd had just a week ago, I dread to think how bad that comedown would have been

Sorry to hear that you didn’t have such a good experience seeing the film Hopeful. Honestly though, even IF I did like the film after seeing it (which I will in a few hours from now), it won’t really matter anymore since from my POV, the thing that was just as equally important to me in liking the film as well, was having the film met with a great response by a lot of folks. I wanted this to really soar with a lot of people. MOS just further proves that Superman can’t seemingly get most people behind him whenever he comes out with a reboot as of late, while characters like Spider-Man and Batman are seemingly able to.

I wasn’t expecting a perfect film, nor did I think that everyone would love it. But by god, I didn’t think it’d be hated this much by so many people.

And honestly, I agree with many of the things that you've said about Superman in the past so if you didn't like the film, chances are that I won't.

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You guys are sweet

I'll be okay. It's just a weird experience for me to go through.

Beyond all the other problems that I think the film has, the ending just knocked the wind out of me... and I sort of knew it was coming from getting bits of spoilers. I knew he was going to die... I just didn't know it would be so brutal, and I thought they would say something more about it.

I dunno... it just really hit me emotionally, like it was the last thing I could take while struggling to stand straight under the weight of all the other flaws, and it properly toppled me over.

I'm seeing it again on Sunday night with some friends, and i'm hoping I may have had enough time to deal with the issues I have with the film by then. Maybe i'll enjoy it more the second time round.

If not, I guess... well... that's just the way it is
Yeah, I felt that way about Batman Begins. I was looking forward to that film for what felt like forever and when I finally saw it, I had quite a few problems with it. It certainly knocked the wind out of my sails.

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Is there an after credit scene???

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Just got back from MOS and I LOVED it!

Please everyone do NOT listen to the critics! Go see it!

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-The first half hour is a bloody mess! This is the only part of the movie where I will concede to the critics. It plays like some sci-fi B-movie only worse. It is unbearably choppy with so many zoom in shots that you can barely tell what is going on. I tell you I was worried, but I knew the movie was supposed to get better and it did.
-Once Kevin Costner comes on screen the movie settles down and I started enjoying it more as it no longer seemed to be going a mile a minute, but it was still slightly choppy.
-Once Cavill first flies with his Superman suit is when the movie takes off and never looks back. From this point on the movie is simply great. The zoom in shots and choppiness are gone. The second half really is really like a completely different movie. It does not even feel like it has the same director.
-The acting is phenomenal with not one weak link in the cast. Even the acting in the beginning was good despite virtually everything else being bad.
-Shannon is awesome and he is not upstaged by Antje Trauer as Faora. She is good, too, but he is the main villain and he gives a great, multi-dimensional performance.
-MOS is a mixture of comic book, science fiction, and traditional movie making. It combines the best of everything. The dialogue may have been a little corny, but I thought it had a great storyline.
-MOS has a heart and you care about the characters. There is emotion and humor, too. So I am not sure many critics even actually saw the same movie.
-Henry Cavill is better than I could have ever imagined. I knew he had the perfect Superman look, but I was surprised about what a fine actor he is. He is simply a perfect Kal-El/ Clark Kent/Superman in every way. Zack Snyder deserves extra points for picking this guy

I am sure I will have more to add in the coming days as I am seeing it again tomorrow. Can't wait!!!



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Well, people must have had some really high expectations since the only things that I keep reading about when I come here now is how people hated this and that. Frankly, I feel like the only things that people were raving about was the action. If we were to go by that notion, then if you took away how much people love the cast and action, then the rest of the film seemingly looks like it would be destroyed in the same manner that Green Lantern was by fans.

If the film was so great, then why are so many people (not only critics, but fans as well) so pissed off and angry about the film?
On behalf of the fans, this is the same thing that happened with The Dark Knight Rises. A lot of people went in with massively high expectations off the back of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, but not only did the film not live up to its predecessor, for some it was couldn't even come close to the calibre of either film.

Honestly, the film is good. Very good, it deserves higher on RT than what it has got, however, in my opinion, it is not as good as Batman Begins. It's got structural problems, mainly:

some of the editing, it seems very choppy in places
this makes the film feel a little bloated
despite the runtime, there's areas of the origin not covered

However, that's about it. I have personal problems with it too, there was a bit too much action for my tastes, and I thought the Metropolis battle was too big, the scale of destruction was too high fora film. But overall it's a great film and in my opinion, better than many other superhero films.

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The part where pa kent goes back for the dog was ridiculous. Everyone I've talked to thought that was a lame reason to die. :/

I've owned one pet in my lifetime that I would of gone back to save. I had a golden retriever , but he was run over by a drunk driver trying to evade the cops

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Is there an after credit scene???

There isn't a post credits scene, 100% confirmed, I stayed twice after the credits.
But it's worth to stay in your seat just for the music.

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I'm late coming to the boards but did anyone catch the homage to Donners Superman 1 movie?

when i saw it i almost cried.

and i cried a few times during this movie. lol

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I would have gone back for my 15 year old dog too, I get that, it's just that Clark could have been the one doing it at normal human speed.

It was ridiculous and ruined Jonathan's death for me.

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On behalf of the fans, this is the same thing that happened with The Dark Knight Rises. A lot of people went in with massively high expectations off the back of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, but not only did the film not live up to its predecessor, for some it was couldn't even come close to the calibre of either film.

Honestly, the film is good. Very good, it deserves higher on RT than what it has got, however, in my opinion, it is not as good as Batman Begins. It's got structural problems, mainly:

some of the editing, it seems very choppy in places
this makes the film feel a little bloated
despite the runtime, there's areas of the origin not covered

However, that's about it. I have personal problems with it too, there was a bit too much action for my tastes, and I thought the Metropolis battle was too big, the scale of destruction was too high fora film. But overall it's a great film and in my opinion, better than many other superhero films.

Well the difference here is though at least most people could say that TDKR was at least great; most of the recent comments that we've been getting about MOS as of late is that it's just "good", not great or even excellent.

Frankly, I think the whole fact that the "general audiences" liked it is mainly because of the action and the fact that the weren't really expecting as much due to not following the film's progress like we all were.

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OH yeah, i left the boards after reading a VERY BIG spoiler. SO when the scene came, i knew it was coming and it STILL shocked me!


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