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Old 07-22-2013, 05:07 PM   #201
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I vote Jackie Chan for shredder
Nah..
At least William Fitchner can act.
You'd have people crying that Jackie can't act AND they are miscasting him.

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Old 07-22-2013, 05:38 PM   #202
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Iron man suit was build and the actor could move. for fast action scenes they used a cgi double.
the Shredder armor doesnt need to be bulky like the IM suit. i repeat the armor doesnt have to be so big and thick like the IM armor.
I really fear they might be overdoing it. Shredder's look in the first film was so simple, yet completely badass. At most, I'd just change the suit he's wearing. Maybe some intricate Ninja garb, with form fitting chainmail underneath it. Or maybe something similar to what Zod and Superman were wearing, underneath the Ninja garb. Then keep it simple with the spiked shoulder, arm and leg guards.




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is the cgi armor a joke? the Zod armor on Krypton and on Earth could be done with practical suits. Legacy studio and Spectral Motion could do it 100%.

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No. They couldn't. Snyder has even admitted to this.


That armor was much too bulky and way too complex to be done practically.

The only reason Faora's was done practically was because, unlike Zod and the other kryptonians, her armor wasn't bulky at all, and she was actually quite light on armor compared to Zod.

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Old 07-22-2013, 05:47 PM   #204
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Iron man suit was build and the actor could move. for fast action scenes they used a cgi double.
the Shredder armor doesnt need to be bulky like the IM suit. i repeat the armor doesnt have to be so big and thick like the IM armor.
WRONG.

For the most part they use full motion capture suits with only the Helmet (minus the mask part of it).

For the first Iron Man film, they used the practical suit alot, but it was just too cumbersome for the stuntmen who could barely fit into it due to the unrealistic proportions and, in the end, they ended up replacing most of many of those shots with a CGI model anyways.

And for the sequels and The Avengers, they never used a FULL practical suit again.

They occasionally used a practical torso for close up shots and where its needed to decrease budget, but thats it.

The Iron Man suits are 95% mocap CGI. At minimum.

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Old 07-22-2013, 08:04 PM   #205
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Shredder having a CGI suit is pretty smart, because fighting in a practical suit as big and bulky as his is would be difficult.

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Nah..
At least William Fitchner can act.
You'd have people crying that Jackie can't act AND they are miscasting him.
Jackie Chan can act pretty well when he wants to. He was great in the 2010 Karate Kid.

that being said, no way on earth should they have cast him as Shredder

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Shredder having a CGI suit is pretty smart, because fighting in a practical suit as big and bulky as his is would be difficult.
This. And its very likely he'll have full armor, ala 2003 cartoon Shredder, than the ninja-esque attire of the comics versions.

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They are probably doing it also for a more seamless composite with the turtles.

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Shredder having a CGI suit is pretty smart, because fighting in a practical suit as big and bulky as his is would be difficult.
yes for fighting.but you know how much extra money you need to spend for Fitchner to just stand there ? they will need to create a cgi suit for every shot.
why not use a practical suit for standing and dialoge scenes and CGI for fighting? because the Shredder suit will be way to bulky. and than of course the question is. is he a human or an alien? why doe he need a suit that big.

in the 80's and 90's they created body suits in all sizes and they were able to give the actors a lot movement. but today it is to hard? i guess its not to hard when Del Toro is directing and uses Legacy and Spectral Motion.


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I always wondered how Shredder walked around without cutting the **** out of himself.

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yes for fighting.but you know how much extra money you need to spend for Fitchner to just stand there ? they will need to create a cgi suit for every shot.
why not use a practical suit for standing and dialoge scenes and CGI for fighting? because the Shredder suit will be way to bulky. and then of course the question is. is he a human or an alien? why doe he need a suit that big.

in the 80's and 90's they created body suits in all sizes and they were able to give the actors a lot movement. but today it is to hard? i guess its not to hard when Del Toro is directing and uses Legacy and Spectral Motion.
I dont know the answers to these questions but im sure they have their reasons

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yes for fighting.but you know how much extra money you need to spend for Fitchner to just stand there ? they will need to create a cgi suit for every shot.
why not use a practical suit for standing and dialoge scenes and CGI for fighting? because the Shredder suit will be way to bulky. and then of course the question is. is he a human or an alien? why doe he need a suit that big.

in the 80's and 90's they created body suits in all sizes and they were able to give the actors a lot movement. but today it is to hard? i guess its not to hard when Del Toro is directing and uses Legacy and Spectral Motion.
True. There are SOME methods to doing it practically, but that takes time and alot of pre-production time when it comes to testing different looks for the suits and seeing what works and what doesn't for the actor.

It's a complicated explanation for WHY it greater pre production times cost more for studios, but simply put, the greater the pre-production time, the greater the amount of money the studio has to make up for/pay back on a film later.

Overall, its just cheaper to do it CGI and not have to take up time making these things work about what will go into doing it practically.

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hey so funny story. My dad works in new york were they are filming the movie. He doesn't know any think about what the shredder is supposed to look like or what hi costume details are but used to watch the cartoon with me as a kid. So he deff knows what he looks like if he saw him. Today he calls me and tells me he saw the shredder on the set of TMNT! i asked what did he look like? he said like the shredder ass he was wearing purple with the helmet and stuff. wish my dad knew how to use his camera phone!

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hey so funny story. My dad works in new york were they are filming the movie. He doesn't know any think about what the shredder is supposed to look like or what hi costume details are but used to watch the cartoon with me as a kid. So he deff knows what he looks like if he saw him. Today he calls me and tells me he saw the shredder on the set of TMNT! i asked what did he look like? he said like the shredder ass he was wearing purple with the helmet and stuff. wish my dad knew how to use his camera phone!
Well if your story is true, and they were shooting in public, as your story would suggest, then we'll have pictures online soon.

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Jackie Chan can act pretty well when he wants to. He was great in the 2010 Karate Kid.

that being said, no way on earth should they have cast him as Shredder
You know who Jackie Chan would have been good as?

Splinter.

He'd be an awesome voice and mo-cap actor for Splinter.

Better than freaking Danny Woodburn.

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I love how u give news and then your called a lier. Like I have nothing better to do with my life then come on boards a lie about a ninja turtles movie. Lol you people are funny as hell

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At least the Shredder is wearing armor, CGI or practical or not.

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I love how u give news and then your called a lier. Like I have nothing better to do with my life then come on boards a lie about a ninja turtles movie. Lol you people are funny as hell
am I missing something but who called you a liar here? I don't see any accusations here on the board (that I know about).

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I love how u give news and then your called a lier. Like I have nothing better to do with my life then come on boards a lie about a ninja turtles movie. Lol you people are funny as hell
People lie on forum boards all the time for the attention til the film comes out

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I love how u give news and then your called a lier. Like I have nothing better to do with my life then come on boards a lie about a ninja turtles movie. Lol you people are funny as hell
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You know who Jackie Chan would have been good as?

Splinter.

He'd be an awesome voice and mo-cap actor for Splinter.

Better than freaking Danny Woodburn.
Danny Woodburn is only doing the mocap.

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Danny Woodburn is only doing the mocap.
And unless he's also doing the voice, it was pointless to cast a known actor. Since more often than not the actor doing the mocap is also doing the voice and other things. Unless a voice actor has been cast and I was unaware.

So he's probably also doing the voice.

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Danny Woodburn is only doing the mocap.
If this is true.....that is a huge ****ing relief

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I love how u give news and then your called a lier. Like I have nothing better to do with my life then come on boards a lie about a ninja turtles movie. Lol you people are funny as hell
Nobody called you a liar!
"News" trolls are just annoyingly frequent on this forum.
And they're more often than not...just recently joined.
Can't say I blame people for being a little iffy.

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