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Old 07-23-2013, 02:44 AM   #351
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This thread is annoying Jonah Nolan isn't going to help writing it so now the movie is going to be bad?

Jonah Nolan isn't writing a lot of upcoming movies. More than 99% I guess all those are going to be bad too

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He's not alone in WF, he has Snyder.lol
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This thread is annoying Jonah Nolan isn't going to help writing it so now the movie is going to be bad?

Jonah Nolan isn't writing a lot of upcoming movies. More than 99% I guess all those are going to be bad too
It's not so much about Jonah, as it is about Goyer being kept on a leash.

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i am awaiting the porn parody title dark Steel!!

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Let's not overexaggerate here. I don't think this film will be bad, but I don't think it will be as good as it can be. MOS had lots of potential but was hampered down by Goyer's dialogue and script. If it had someone else, a writer with better grasp of dialogue and character development, to polish it, MOS would have probably been better received. I don't want just a good movie, I want a great one, especially if it features my two favorite superheroes.

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i am awaiting the porn parody title dark Steel!!
I'm still a fan of 'A Knight in Metropolis' myself.

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Let's not overexaggerate here. I don't think this film will be bad, but I don't think it will be as good as it can be. MOS had lots of potential but was hampered down by Goyer's dialogue and script. If it had someone else, a writer with better grasp of dialogue and character development, to polish it, MOS would have probably been better received. I don't want just a good movie, I want a great one, especially if it features my two favorite superheroes.
That's exactly why it's bad news that Jonah (or anyone, at least thus far) ain't helping Goyer.

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Old 07-23-2013, 02:59 AM   #358
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Let's not overexaggerate here. I don't think this film will be bad, but I don't think it will be as good as it can be. MOS had lots of potential but was hampered down by Goyer's dialogue and script. If it had someone else, a writer with better grasp of dialogue and character development, to polish it, MOS would have probably been better received. I don't want just a good movie, I want a great one, especially if it features my two favorite superheroes.
That and I think that Nolan did help somewhat when it came to the story. Now don't get me wrong, I think Snyder should be credited as well for how well MOS turned out, but I also do think that for whatever part of the equation that Nolan helped with regarding the story was a positive factor.

But now that Nolan is supposedly not attached to help with the story, that just leaves Goyer and Snyder on their own.

To be honest, aside from the main cast returning, I still have a hard time trying to find much to care about this film coming out.

Batman being in this film is no more than a gimmick really. It serves no purpose other than to forward the JL motion and to have Superman and Batman on the same screen together.

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That's exactly why it's bad news that Jonah (or anyone, at least thus far) ain't helping Goyer.
Percisely. There's a party that simply wants this film to be all that it can be. Not a mere fraction of it.

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That and I think that Nolan did help somewhat when it came to the story. Now don't get me wrong, I think Snyder should be credited as well for how well MOS turned out, but I also do think that for whatever part of the equation that Nolan helped with regarding the story was a positive factor.

But now that Nolan is supposedly not attached to help with the story, that just leaves Goyer and Snyder on their own.

To be honest, aside from the main cast returning, I still have a hard time trying to find much to care about this film coming out.

Batman being in this film is no more than a gimmick really. It serves no purpose other than to forward the JL motion and to have Superman and Batman on the same screen together.
This is what truly frightens me. WB apparently did take advice and paired Goyer with another writer, just one who's sole credit is Sucker Punch.

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lol; you know a part of me kind of wishes that someone would have the balls to ask Snyder in a interview on why he went with this route for the franchise as opposed to giving Superman his own sequel.

We've pretty much wasted already one of Cavil's and Amy's appearance in a film that isn't a solo sequel for Superman and that isn't a JL film either.

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That's exactly why it's bad news that Jonah (or anyone, at least thus far) ain't helping Goyer.
Good lord, I would even feel more confident if the writers of Hishe were brought in to help. Not to write hilarious banter between the 2, although that thought is somewhat intriguing, but to catch huge gaping plot holes and stupid actions by the characters in the story before it is filmed. It's probably impossible to be completely free of plot holes but at least catch the obvious ones.

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This is what truly frightens me. WB apparently did take advice and paired Goyer with another writer, just one who's sole credit is Sucker Punch.
Meaning we'll have lots and lots of action scenes and Batman swooping in to save the day while Superman watches on in awe.lol

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And maybe Lois stripping to disarm Batman with her sexuality. I guess it's not all bad.

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This is what truly frightens me. WB apparently did take advice and paired Goyer with another writer, just one who's sole credit is Sucker Punch.
I thought Snyder was only helping with the story and Goyer is doing the screenplay again. Worst case scenario, the script has the same problems as the script in MOS. I don't know about the story though......it will most likely be good.

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Meaning we'll have lots and lots of action scenes and Batman swooping in to save the day while Superman watches on in awe.lol

Look, it's herolee! The man that can find a cloud in every silver lining.

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That and I think that Nolan did help somewhat when it came to the story. Now don't get me wrong, I think Snyder should be credited as well for how well MOS turned out, but I also do think that for whatever part of the equation that Nolan helped with regarding the story was a positive factor.
The best part of MoS (other than Krypton), was after the "You can save them all" line. And that was Nolan. So yeah.

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The best part of MoS (other than Krypton), was after the "You can save them all" line. And that was Nolan. So yeah.
That line didn't even make sense to me , as he obviously can't and didn't and will never be able to save them all. Even if it wasn't meant to be taken so literally, it still makes little sense to me.

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It was supposed to be a "go get them" line. But its placement and its meaning were indeed awkward. As was the entire movie, really.

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That line didn't even make sense to me , as he obviously can't and didn't and will never be able to save them all. Even if it wasn't meant to be taken so literally, it still makes little sense to me.

The line is a "meta" metaphor, alluding to Superman's mythological messiah nature. It worked for me.

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I thought it was a little hammy. mmm Ham. *drools*

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The best part of MoS (other than Krypton), was after the "You can save them all" line. And that was Nolan. So yeah.
I wonder if the premise of SR, when it was first announced, was this mixed in its reception.lol

And plus, I have yet to see one post that can really give a good reason as to why this film won't be a bad or medicore one at best based on what we know so far and such.

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The best part of MoS (other than Krypton), was after the "You can save them all" line. And that was Nolan. So yeah.
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An insider here who, months ago, told us that WB brought in Nolan to ghost-write the 3rd act 'cause it was a mess. I really can't remember the name right now, but he was here for the Batmovies, too. He was legit.

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I wonder if the premise of SR, when it was first announced, was this mixed in its reception.lol
The MoS premise and everything about it seemed glorious to me. Up until I saw the movie. Especially for the 2nd time. Then its script fell apart.

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