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Old 07-21-2013, 08:11 PM   #301
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All of their relationship? Do you really want him to become the most hated Avenger?
This.

Nobody wants to see Hank abusing Janet.

People would hate the **** out of him.

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Just in case Sam hasn't had a full-on aneurysm yet, there's this from io9:

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In an exclusive interview with io9, Whedon said you can absolutely have Ultron without Hank Pym. He said:

"We don't have to have him. It works very simply — this is Marvel cinema, not Marvel comics. One thing [Marvel Studios head] Kevin Feige has a genius for is knowing what to hold onto and what to let go of. You can invoke the feeling you had and play with the characters you love and remain true to the needs of the film."

I asked how this will change Ultron's origin story, as a kind of offspring of the Avengers themselves. Whedon smiled and replied:

"You'll have to wait and and see, but you don't need a Pym to create an Ultron."

This also frees up director Edgar Wright, who is working on the Ant Man movie, to truly own that character.

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When did Joss ever say this? Hank Pym isn't in The Avengers 2. Nothing has been said about who creates Ultron.


What the hell does Robert Downey Jr. have to do with anything? You've gone off the deep end man.
Exactly.

He never actually said Hank won't be the creator. Nor did he say that Tony will be the creator.

Now do to the mini teaser they showed, we know that Tony will be involved in his creation, somehow, but that doesn't mean that Hank won't be also.

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Just in case Sam hasn't had a full-on aneurysm yet, there's this from io9:
Scratch everything I said.

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When did Joss ever say this? Hank Pym isn't in The Avengers 2. Nothing has been said about who creates Ultron.


What the hell does Robert Downey Jr. have to do with anything? You've gone off the deep end man.
It wouldn't be the first time. Did you see his reaction to Peggy's inclusion in TWS?

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It wouldn't be the first time. Did you see his reaction to Peggy's inclusion in TWS?
It was bizarre. I guess this was the sequel.

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It was bizarre. I guess this was the sequel.
It was just about the oddest thing to be upset about.......

Are we really surprised about his reaction now? Hopefully he'll cool off and give the movie a chance.

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Old 07-21-2013, 08:23 PM   #309
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The thing is, I don't think Edgar Wright was planning on having Ultron anyway. Ant-Man is not going to be the movie some people are expecting. The movie was being created by Edgar before the MCU existed. It's not really going to be much of an MCU movie.

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No. Joss specifically said Ultron is created out of the current Avengers. Just accept it.
It's safe to say that y never read any early Avengers comics?

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Makes me wonder how Ant-man will fit into the MCU. I think they did say he will fit into the MCU, but if he's not in Avengers 2 and he's not responsible for Ultron, then how? Could they just mean that Ant-man is technically set within the wider MCU, but won't necessarily be seen outside of the Ant-man film and possible sequel?

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This is certainly some disappointing news. We'll see where it goes but I'm not really hyped to see a generic evil robot take on the Avengers. Joss gets some slack for what he has given us but my faith is shaken a bit right now to be sure.

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^? (to the picture)

also....just saw an interview with Evans and Scarlett Johansen, the interviewer told them the title of Avengers 2: Age of Ultron, they looked at each other and both kind of smiled, and chris evans said, who's ultron? like two or three times, with a smirk on his face.

Not to mention Fiege said that Cap 2 is a big lead in to avengers 2...there's something going on with Cap 2

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^ Got a link to the Evans/Scarlett interview?

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Makes me wonder how Ant-man will fit into the MCU. I think they did say he will fit into the MCU, but if he's not in Avengers 2 and he's not responsible for Ultron, then how? Could they just mean that Ant-man is technically set within the wider MCU, but won't necessarily be seen outside of the Ant-man film and possible sequel?
Ant-Man could be the 1st real superhero.
Cap, Hawkeye, Falcon and Widow are soldiers.
Hulk is a force of nature.
Thor is a god.
Iron Man is.....well Iron Man.

Pym could just want to be famous him and Janet, so they become heroes to become famous.

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It's safe to say that y never read any early Avengers comics?
You know, some people who have read early Avengers comics will be okay with this. The same way some people who haven't read early Avengers comics will not be okay with it.

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^? (to the picture)

also....just saw an interview with Evans and Scarlett Johansen, the interviewer told them the title of Avengers 2: Age of Ultron, they looked at each other and both kind of smiled, and chris evans said, who's ultron? like two or three times, with a smirk on his face.

Not to mention Fiege said that Cap 2 is a big lead in to avengers 2...there's something going on with Cap 2
I'm telling you, my theory about Ultron being the real "Phase 2 Project" Fury talked about in Avengers is going to come true.

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I feel like the post credits scene after Cap is gonna be something sweeeeet.

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I'm telling you, my theory about Ultron being the real "Phase 2 Project" Fury talked about in Avengers is going to come true.
Most likely and it wouldn't be crazy to have great minds like Stark and Banner help shield out in the process. And then obviously something along the line will go wrong. Sabotage of the Ultron AI perhaps by
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robert redfords character? Or people under his command. Just seems like there's something going on in cap we will have to pay attention too. And aim possibly

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^ Got a link to the Evans/Scarlett interview?
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http://www.mtv.com/videos/interview/...tml#id=1709970

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I'm telling you, my theory about Ultron being the real "Phase 2 Project" Fury talked about in Avengers is going to come true.
Wasn't Phase 2 using the cube to make weapons? It's true Fury may be hiding the truth, but Stark hacked the system, it's not like Fury told them what it's for.

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'm not really hyped to see a generic evil robot take on the Avengers.
No Hank Pym = Generic evil robot?

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Wasn't Phase 2 using the cube to make weapons? It's true Fury may be hiding the truth, but Stark hacked the system, it's not like Fury told them what it's for.
If you were Nick Fury, would you let a computer network hold your greatest secrets?

I don't doubt they were using the cube for some weapons, but I think something bigger was going on that Cap and Tony didn't see.

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Or switching Cyclops' role for Wolverine
.....or switching from Kitty Pryde

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