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Old 07-21-2013, 08:35 PM   #351
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i tried icy hot, didn't do too much :/

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Also couldn't pym have created ultron in the past like after the events of avengers or something as a failsafe or as a job for whomever but really just laid out the groundwork. Then in avengers 2 the team is gigen the blueprints and officially builds the creation as a defense vs thanos? Maybe age of ultron doesn't mean that he's the villain until the end. Maybe he's a defense system that helps the whole movie and at the end goes awry. Hence showinf the age of ultron is upon us. So then pym is the creator just not in the film itself giving wright the chance to adapt the character fully.

Idk just trying to make a reasonable scenario.

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Old 07-21-2013, 08:40 PM   #353
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Does anybody have a high res/good quality version of the Avengers: Age of Ultron logo?

The best I can find is only a few hundred pixels large...

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It looks good, but I am kinda disappointed they cut out the word "the".

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But surely enough, he won't be featured in Phase 3 at all except for A3, and he'll be gone for good after that.

But they remedied that by making him the most important character in A2.
That might be the case but we don't know, Marvel wanted him locked in for Avengers 2 & 3, there is time between them to negotiate the possibility of an Iron Man 4 and who knows what could happen post-Avengers 3.

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I'm okay with Whedon's judgement, and while Ultron may not be wholly created by Pym, I believe it will be done right in the end. And with Ant Man's movie coming in Phase 3, I think Pym will be introduced, and perhaps even tied to Ultron somehow.

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I am betting the post credits scene of AoU is gonna be showing the creator of Ultron...

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Last I heard about plans for Ant-Man, Pym is '60s-based, yes?

Maybe he creates technology then that Stark later perfects and ****s things up for everyone by unleashing Ultron.

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It's also focused on Scott Lang, so I'm not sure that theory will pan out.

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From a new interview posted at CBM:

"We don't have to have him. It works very simply — this is Marvel cinema, not Marvel comics. One thing [Marvel Studios head] Kevin Feige has a genius for is knowing what to hold onto and what to let go of. You can invoke the feeling you had and play with the characters you love and remain true to the needs of the film."

When asked how this will affect Ultron's story, Whedon smiled and responded:

"You'll have to wait and and see, but you don't need a Pym to create an Ultron."





I am still gonna bet that Ultron will connect to Ant Man


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You guys are getting it wrong. Pym creating Ultron isn't what's important. It's Hank having to face his failure & then face his friends who Hank almost got killed (Maybe even one of them dies). We're not getting that since Hank isn't a member.

I blame Wright for this. If he didn't take his sweet time, Ant-Man would've been in Avengers 1. Now the two most important things about the character (being a founding member & creating Ultron/his fall from grace) aren't apart of MCU Ant-Man; that movie will probably be good, but feel pointless in the grand scheme of the MCU.

I'm still hyped for Avengers 2, it's my most hyped most after GOTG, but no Hank is really disappointing.

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From a new interview posted at CBM:

"We don't have to have him. It works very simply this is Marvel cinema, not Marvel comics. One thing [Marvel Studios head] Kevin Feige has a genius for is knowing what to hold onto and what to let go of. You can invoke the feeling you had and play with the characters you love and remain true to the needs of the film."

When asked how this will affect Ultron's story, Whedon smiled and responded:

"You'll have to wait and and see, but you don't need a Pym to create an Ultron."





I am still gonna bet that Ultron will connect to Ant Man
That was from io9, and I posted it a few pages back. They'll have part 2 of their Whedon interview up tomorrow.

Also, I love the story behind that gif.

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shift in the universe at the end of the movie, the movie is the biggest lead in to "Age of Ultron"....No pym... hmmmm, what's going on guys?
Two words:

Arnim Zola.

**** Tony Stark. TONY STARK AIN'T MAKING ULTRON. Get that through your noggin, RDJ and all you Iron Man-worshippin' infidels.

No reason in hell that Tony "I'm Not In the Weapons Business Anymore" Stark is going to create a killer robot/cybernetic weapons systems for a globalist government powered by the World Security Council ("Let's Nuke Manhattan") and SHIELD ("Let's Weaponize EVERYTHING"). Might as well say Bruce Freakin' Banner creates it, because that makes about as much sense.

But back to the whole "CATWS is the key! CATWS is the thing! CATWS is what bridges Avengers 1 and Avengers 2....the thing that surrounds Phase II and ties it, and binds the Avengers together"....

What's the wild card there? The player nobody talks about?

Arnim Zola.

And what exactly is Arnim Zola in the comics?

An evil AI who inhabits an android body. He IS Proto-Ultron.

There's your link. Feast.

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wow this thread has gone down the tubes. whedon/feige/marvel deserve some faith. this is a different universe.

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Two words:

Arnim Zola.

**** Tony Stark. TONY STARK AIN'T MAKING ULTRON. Get that through your noggin, RDJ and all you Iron Man-worshippin' infidels.

No reason in hell that Tony "I'm Not In the Weapons Business Anymore" Stark is going to create a killer robot/cybernetic weapons systems for a globalist government powered by the World Security Council ("Let's Nuke Manhattan") and SHIELD ("Let's Weaponize EVERYTHING"). Might as well say Bruce Freakin' Banner creates it, because that makes about as much sense.

But back to the whole "CATWS is the key! CATWS is the thing! CATWS is what bridges Avengers 1 and Avengers 2....the thing that surrounds Phase II and ties it, and binds the Avengers together"....

What's the wild card there? The player nobody talks about?

Arnim Zola.

And what exactly is Arnim Zola in the comics?

An evil AI who inhabits an android body. He IS Proto-Ultron.

There's your link. Feast.

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Two words:

Arnim Zola.

**** Tony Stark. TONY STARK AIN'T MAKING ULTRON. Get that through your noggin, RDJ and all you Iron Man-worshippin' infidels.

No reason in hell that Tony "I'm Not In the Weapons Business Anymore" Stark is going to create a killer robot/cybernetic weapons systems for a globalist government powered by the World Security Council ("Let's Nuke Manhattan") and SHIELD ("Let's Weaponize EVERYTHING"). Might as well say Bruce Freakin' Banner creates it, because that makes about as much sense.

But back to the whole "CATWS is the key! CATWS is the thing! CATWS is what bridges Avengers 1 and Avengers 2....the thing that surrounds Phase II and ties it, and binds the Avengers together"....

What's the wild card there? The player nobody talks about?

Arnim Zola.

And what exactly is Arnim Zola in the comics?

An evil AI who inhabits an android body. He IS Proto-Ultron.

There's your link. Feast.
Um..... the "footage" they showed at SDCC to announce Avengers: Age Ultron showed an IRON MAN HELMET being hammered into Ultron's head.

Even Whedon himself said it:

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So if you think Tony Stark is creating Ultron, you're kidding yourself.


There would have to be time travel, or some other wicked trickery going on in the story for Oym to still be involved and/or for Tony to not be the creator.

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You guys are getting it wrong. Pym creating Ultron isn't what's important. It's Hank having to face his failure & then face his friends who Hank almost got killed (Maybe even one of them dies). We're not getting that since Hank isn't a member.

I blame Wright for this. If he didn't take his sweet time, Ant-Man would've been in Avengers 1. Now the two most important things about the character (being a founding member & creating Ultron/his fall from grace) aren't apart of MCU Ant-Man; that movie will probably be good, but feel pointless in the grand scheme of the MCU.

I'm still hyped for Avengers 2, it's my most hyped most after GOTG, but no Hank is really disappointing.
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Cherokee your dramatics and anger are just beyond ridiculous

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Um..... the "footage" they showed at SDCC to announce Avengers: Age Ultron showed an IRON MAN HELMET being hammered into Ultron's head.

Even Whedon himself said it:

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So if you think Tony Stark is creating Ultron, you're kidding yourself.


There would have to be time travel, or some other wicked trickery going on in the story for Oym to still be involved and/or for Tony to not be the creator.
Thank you for not apparently reading what I posted. At all.

Since I *did* say that Tony Stark is NOT creating Ultron. Which you seem to agree with in the above statement.

And since I did *not* say that Pym (Oym?) would be involved.

I'll repeat: Arnim Zola. ZOLA. With a Z. And an Ola.

And please tell me where in that video was it said by Joss that the image was designed to indicate Iron Man's mask was being *forged* into Ultron. There is a big difference between a mask being "beaten" and being "forged."

You wanna know what the symbolism is there? Read Mighty Avengers. The one where Ultron took over Iron Man's Extremis suit and became...."something else." Just like Joss said in the video.

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Um..... the "footage" they showed at SDCC to announce Avengers: Age Ultron showed an IRON MAN HELMET being hammered into Ultron's head.

Even Whedon himself said it:

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So if you think Tony Stark is creating Ultron, you're kidding yourself.


There would have to be time travel, or some other wicked trickery going on in the story for Oym to still be involved and/or for Tony to not be the creator.
Exactly. Heck, there are tons of hints in IM3 that Stark will build Ultron. Like how Jarvis controlled all the armors and how Stark blew them all up afterwards.

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