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Old 06-16-2014, 05:17 AM   #1
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My theory is that we are going to see some of the young characters in the comics as Easter eggs. They aren't going to waste any of the bigger names on these characters. So we will get characters from the Avengers Academy books and also possibly some Young Avengers, Runaways and New Warriors.

I see this resulting in two things:
1) the potential New Warriors movie from the trademarked list.
2) I feel that Agent Carter is just going to have one 13 episode season and be done. So I think that during Season 3 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. They will again do a mid season 13 episode mini series instead of a long winter break and it will be called Avengers Academy. If successful I see it expanding as a full fledge show in its second season. I could also see this being a potential Netflix series.

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Old 06-18-2014, 10:28 PM   #2
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I agree that it might prove to be a launchpad for some of the recently trademarked titles like Runaways, New Warriors and even Alpha Flight (still an odd "get" for MS, considering that they won't be able to play the X-Men/mutant angle on them). But I don't think this indicates there's any danger that Peggy Carter will be a one-and-done TV show. Ratings will most likely dictate that show's fate, unsurprisingly enough.

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Old 06-18-2014, 10:55 PM   #3
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The thing that interests me is the Index mentioned in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It wasn't delved into in any great detail, but it's mentioned in at least a few episodes that there are multiple people around the world with superpowers, and that S.H.I.E.L.D. was keeping tabs on them and actively covering up their existence to avoid inciting panic.

With S.H.I.E.L.D. destroyed and the Avengers now known across the globe as public superheroes, I think more and more of these people would start stepping out of the shadows to make their presence known.

If the Avengers really are looking to expand the team (and the rumors about Falcon and Iron Patriot suggest that may be true), then I think it'd be cool to see them actively vetting or considering various heroes from the across the globe.

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Old 06-18-2014, 11:15 PM   #4
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I like the "set up for a TV series" idea.

So far, all of our MCU heroes have been the product of science, with the exception of Thor. It would make sense that if Stark and Banner could work on equipping young soldiers with better tech and/or bio-chemical engineering, that they could increase the roster. They have the leaders (Cap and Hawkeye) to train them, and could be at a point where they are bringing on candidates for the "Young Avengers" program. Would be cool to get some B-listers or C-listers in there...

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The "academy" is too close the the Xavier school in X-Men. I absolutely do not want to see that in this franchise.

For now it's more likely they are training people to assist in Stark's new privatized world security.

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The "academy" is too close the the Xavier school in X-Men. I absolutely do not want to see that in this franchise.

For now it's more likely they are training people to assist in Stark's new privatized world security.

There's no Xavier School in the MCU. Nor a Xavier. So a "Sky High" superhero academy would be unique in the MCU. Plus, Avengers Academy is a canonical thing, so Marvel is not "ripping off" themselves.

As to the people in those shots being mundane, "normal" SHIELD agents: they wouldn't need training, since they're all veterans. Plus, how much sense would it make to entrust world security to the very agents who just failed so miserably at it....? If the world has good reason to distrust SHIELD, they've got damn good reason to distrust a recycled SHIELD.

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There's no Xavier School in the MCU. Nor a Xavier. So a "Sky High" superhero academy would be unique in the MCU. Plus, Avengers Academy is a canonical thing, so Marvel is not "ripping off" themselves.

As to the people in those shots being mundane, "normal" SHIELD agents: they wouldn't need training, since they're all veterans. Plus, how much sense would it make to entrust world security to the very agents who just failed so miserably at it....? If the world has good reason to distrust SHIELD, they've got damn good reason to distrust a recycled SHIELD.
I could see them needing a support staff just like the Watchtower had in Justice League Unlimited.

But I agree. Especially with SHIELD no longer keeping superhumans a secret, there's a whole world of people with superpowers out there presumably in need of training and a purpose.

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I could see them needing a support staff just like the Watchtower had in Justice League Unlimited.

But I agree. Especially with SHIELD no longer keeping superhumans a secret, there's a whole world of people with superpowers out there presumably in need of training and a purpose.

When did the Watchtower have a support staff...? The only "support staff" the Watchtower or Avengers Mansion/Tower ever had in the comics, cartoons, or video games was more (lower tier) superheroes. They've never had "mundanes" on the payroll (so to speak) other than Butler Jarvis and Rick Jones.

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Old 06-19-2014, 09:32 AM   #9
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The Justice League Unlimited series had an episode where Amanda Waller sends up a team of undercover agents as 'support staff'.. Forget the name though.

I wouldn't mind something similar (as in support staff) for the Avengers. I don't want Stark and Banner servicing the Quinjet for example.

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There's no Xavier School in the MCU. Nor a Xavier. So a "Sky High" superhero academy would be unique in the MCU. Plus, Avengers Academy is a canonical thing, so Marvel is not "ripping off" themselves.

As to the people in those shots being mundane, "normal" SHIELD agents: they wouldn't need training, since they're all veterans. Plus, how much sense would it make to entrust world security to the very agents who just failed so miserably at it....? If the world has good reason to distrust SHIELD, they've got damn good reason to distrust a recycled SHIELD.
Except it would be Stark training them, not SHIELD who was infiltrated by Hydra. Would be an entirely different focus.

It's also not about "ripping themselves" off. It's about being unique among the films that are out there. X-Men has handled the whole "academy" thing. Let them keep that. The "Academy" is a lazy way of writing in new heroes if they do it en mass.

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When did the Watchtower have a support staff...?
Pretty much the entirety of Justice League Unlimited? There's even a whole episode where the government sends some agents to mug and impersonate a few staff members so they can gather information on the League.



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Except it would be Stark training them, not SHIELD who was infiltrated by Hydra. Would be an entirely different focus.

It's also not about "ripping themselves" off. It's about being unique among the films that are out there. X-Men has handled the whole "academy" thing. Let them keep that. The "Academy" is a lazy way of writing in new heroes if they do it en mass.
I understand what you're saying, Rock, but I respectfully disagree. If you look beyond the fact that they're both "academies," you'll see that the two fulfill very different roles. The X-Mansion is more like an orphanage, a place to raise these mutant kids and teach them to embrace their individuality, being different, etc., as well as to protect them from a whole host of people who want to kill them. Avengers Academy, otoh, is literally like "Sky High": it's a school that teaches metahumans to become superheroes, to master their powersets, and to adopt the good-guy superhero mindset to recruit them to Earth's premier superteam. Xavier is more interested in nurturing his students and letting them find their own destinies, not boot-camping them into a paramilitary organization.

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Avengers Academy would be more like a military place Id say. Xaviers School is a big house where freakazoids live and goto school.

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Avengers Academy would be more like a military place Id say. Xaviers School is a big house where freakazoids live and goto school.
Yeah, that's the Cliffs Notes version of what I was saying.

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i can see people getting upset if "avengers academy" was a show and got hate like agents of shield..

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I was reading on the "Why Introduce Thanos Thread" - someone talked about how Marvel was smart for introducing Thanos in bits to give the impression as the over lord of evil so that when Darksied and others are seen in the DC universe it will make them think "Oh this is like the big bad guy from Avengers and/or GOTG."

As it pertains to this thread....

From a GENERAL AUDIENCE perspective, I think this idea will apply to the Avenger's Academy/Xavier School for the Gifted argument. I really think the GA won't see a difference between them. If they've seen X-Men or bits of it, the same idea applies - "Oh this (Avenger's Academy) is like that school from X-Men." If AA takes a more militarized approach then maybe not.

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