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Old 04-06-2014, 09:05 PM   #1
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I hope Batroc comes back in this or captain America 3. maybe ultron causes a breakout at a prison where he is being held. Batroc was awesome!!!

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I hope Batroc comes back in this or captain America 3. maybe ultron causes a breakout at a prison where he is being held. Batroc was awesome!!!
This has to be the case. S.H.I.E.L.D. and Hydra are all but finished. So say hello to all of the imprisoned supervillains breaking out or being broken out.

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I haven't seen the movie, but I NEVER thought I'd read that statement.

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Yeah, I think the MCU is going to take any of the joke characters and ramp up their danger level.

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It was pretty funny seeing this....

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Looks like Audi wasn't a fan of seeing Stark drive an Acura and have ponied up to be the car sponsor in AoU.

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Yes! This must mean we're gonna get leader, batroc, crossbones, abomination, and graviton as a possible masters of evil... hmmm I wonder if cap will lead his kooky quartet against the masters of evil, led by baron zemo and madame hydra, in cap 3.

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I can't remember because there was a kid crying at that point in the film (Who the hell brings a toddler to an action film?) but didn't Batroc escape at the start?

I thought they didn't capture him.

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I can't remember because there was a kid crying at that point in the film (Who the hell brings a toddler to an action film?) but didn't Batroc escape at the start?

I thought they didn't capture him.
He was captured later. Pierce showed Cap video of them questioning him. Not sure how legit that was though.

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That's right I remember now.

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Yes! This must mean we're gonna get leader, batroc, crossbones, abomination, and graviton as a possible masters of evil... hmmm I wonder if cap will lead his kooky quartet against the masters of evil, led by baron zemo and madame hydra, in cap 3.
unlikely, is all I will say

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I wonder how they'll address Banner's absence. He was mentioned a couple of times in TWS but they never thought to contact him lol

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No offense, but who would on purpose call the Hulk in on anything? Everybody seems to think that Banner has 100% infallible control on things... Have you ever read the character is all I have to say about that. There's a reason that the Hulk was retroactively taken out of the founders Avenger's roster. In fact, I have feeling that Hulk will not be an official part of the MCU team at the end of A2, even if he does appear in A3.

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No offense, but who would on purpose call the Hulk in on anything? Everybody seems to think that Banner has 100% infallible control on things... Have you ever read the character is all I have to say about that. There's a reason that the Hulk was retroactively taken out of the founders Avenger's roster. In fact, I have feeling that Hulk will not be an official part of the MCU team at the end of A2, even if he does appear in A3.
Hulk is way too unpredictable to be reliable. He's someone you aim at the bad guys when all else fails.

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No offense, but who would on purpose call the Hulk in on anything? Everybody seems to think that Banner has 100% infallible control on things... Have you ever read the character is all I have to say about that. There's a reason that the Hulk was retroactively taken out of the founders Avenger's roster. In fact, I have feeling that Hulk will not be an official part of the MCU team at the end of A2, even if he does appear in A3.
I actually hope they use the Send him into space/Planet Hulk route for Phase 3.

A Planet Hulk movie would be so badass. I've heard they don't want to do it thought because Bruce Banner would hardly be in it if at all.

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No offense, but who would on purpose call the Hulk in on anything? Everybody seems to think that Banner has 100% infallible control on things... Have you ever read the character is all I have to say about that. There's a reason that the Hulk was retroactively taken out of the founders Avenger's roster. In fact, I have feeling that Hulk will not be an official part of the MCU team at the end of A2, even if he does appear in A3.
No offense, but did you watch the end of The Avengers? He seemed to have it under control. He would have been quite handy during that final act of TWS when they needed to break through Hydra's defenses.

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A Planet Hulk movie would be so badass. I've heard they don't want to do it thought because Bruce Banner would hardly be in it if at all.
Planet Hulk would be OFF THE CHAIN and the lack of Banner is meaningless and easily solved by simply writing more Banner into the script. They aren't beholden to the exact plot of the comic, after all.

Take Bixby-era Lonely Man, change 'wandering highways' to 'exiled on alien planet', add gladiators and aliens and bam!

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Dude, it's a great "rah-rah" moment with Banner when he smashes the Leviathan... But c'mon son!!! It's the Hulk. Banner in control has kind of never worked out in the long run with the character in the source material. Why would anyone suspect that it's going to work out for the long run in the MCU? If anything, it's kind of boring if Bruce can just turn it on and off like a switch. Where's the drama? Where's the pathos? If the Hulk is just a power that Banner has control of... He's lost something that is essential to the character. Besides, I am not someone that thinks Bannner's statement was one indicating he had control. To me it's more like, "I know how easily I can go off." That shows Banner has taken the time to do some serious self examination, but not necessarily that he's now suddenly Superman in ripped pants. And that's ok. Superman in ripped pants is not what the character is or should be.

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I didn't read that bit as "Banner is in control" so much as "Banner can force a Hulk out when he wants". Maybe I missed something tho

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Yeah thats what I saw it as.

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Dude, it's a great "rah-rah" moment with Banner when he smashes the Leviathan... But c'mon son!!! It's the Hulk. Banner in control has kind of never worked out in the long run with the character in the source material. Why would anyone suspect that it's going to work out for the long run in the MCU? If anything, it's kind of boring if Bruce can just turn it on and off like a switch. Where's the drama? Where's the pathos? If the Hulk is just a power that Banner has control of... He's lost something that is essential to the character. Besides, I am not someone that thinks Bannner's statement was one indicating he had control. To me it's more like, "I know how easily I can go off." That shows Banner has taken the time to do some serious self examination, but not necessarily that he's now suddenly Superman in ripped pants. And that's ok. Superman in ripped pants is not what the character is or should be.
The whole story arc that Banner went through in that film wasn't that the Hulk was an unstable, crazed beast, but that he had a heroic nature inherent to him. As Tony puts it, the Hulk was created to save Banner and it's pointed out that when he went on his rampage in the Helicarrier he deliberately missed a populated area when he came down. He saved a building full of people from a Leviathen, he saved Tony. He's not some mad dog, he's not the villain. He's a savage, but he has nobility. I don't think it's Banner manipulating Hulk or anything like that, I think it's a case of Banner not making things worse than they are by trying to suppress the Hulk out of fear. He's embraced that the Hulk is capable of great good, and as a result of that Hulk himself has embraced that.

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Hulk can be inherently noble and still be something that Banner has fear of since Hulk is fueled by Banner's anger and is not, shall we say, a precision instrument. Banner was still worried about what he does as the Hulk as late as when he crashed in the Jersey compound ole Harry Dean found him in. "Did I hurt anyone?" was the second thing he asked about when he woke up. Hulk can be heroic, no doubt. Hulk can also be an unthinking rage machine. That's the paradox of the character and what makes him less than ideal to be part of an elite force like the Avengers to my eyes. It seems that Marvel Comics editorial has the similar thinking given the past 4 decades of the character's history in the books.

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